VxKex (extended kernel) project dissapeared

[Dave-H]

We don't allow members to delete their accounts themselves because doing that would probably destroy all the forum content associated with the account (as being banned does, of course).
This would probably make a nonsense of any threads which the user had contributed to, and we would potentially lose useful information from the forum.

[D.Draker]

This actually leads to more and more questions.

[xYannikx]

On 11/21/2024 at 8:32 AM, AstragonQC said:

Vx's account resurfaced recently with a stub of the VxKex repo (at the original place, and so, original URL).
He explained the major reason that lead him to disappear from the Internet.
I let you read the message by yourselves as the topic is sensitive/serious enough to not let me trying to synthesize them with words that are not his.

Thus you'll understand that the project is now abandoned from Vx's side.
Fortunately, someone seems to have taken up the torch and it looks like there is a successor to the project, based on VxKex.

It is confirmed by the real vxiiduu that this is a fake account and you should not download it under any circumstances!

The account was then deleted and shortly afterwards there was a new one with the same name

Edited November 30, 2024 by xYannikx

[D.Draker]

12 hours ago, xYannikx said:

It is confirmed by the real vxiiduu that this is a fake account and you should not download it under any circumstances!

The account was then deleted and shortly afterwards there was a new one with the same name

Well, thanks for telling us! Probably, the deleted MSFN account was fake, also? And MSFN staff had some hard grounds for deletion.

[D.Draker]

On 11/21/2024 at 3:32 AM, AstragonQC said:

Necroposting, but it seems that we have the end of the story.

Now, thanks to @xYannikx,  we know it's also a fake, @AstragonQC, please delete your post with the fake, someone can report, if not already.

BTW, I wouldn't believe that story about the mother. Too soapy, and his English is very bad, too bad for someone (allegedly) from Australia.

[Kpsa4]

@xYannikx Where exactly does this screenshot come from? I can see there date 9th Nov 2024. That is not much old, but if the original vxiiduu is still somewhere around online, why he doesn't simply do some official statement to all those speculations?  No offense to you at all. I'm glad people here post any info they have. But anybody can create such a screenshot, anybody can use vxiiduu nick on some instant messenger. It might me real, but also maybe not. I don't know. If you have more detailed info, post it please.

@D.Draker Who knows if that story is real or not. Maybe just somebody wanted to fake it, because VxKex really needs to be updated, so we can run new versions of software on Win7. There is for sure more people who got skills and time for that, but nobody wanted to start, if the status of original project has been unknown. Now at least 2 people started to do some work on it and that is imho good at this point. Future will tell more.

[Karla Sleutel]

Can we have some sort of a commission on this?

[D.Draker]

On 11/30/2024 at 9:19 AM, Kpsa4 said:

@D.Draker Who knows if that story is real or not. Maybe just somebody wanted to fake it, because VxKex really needs to be updated, so we can run new versions of software on Win7. There is for sure more people who got skills and time for that, but nobody wanted to start, if the status of original project has been unknown. Now at least 2 people started to do some work on it and that is imho good at this point. Future will tell more.

I agree with you, at this point we still know nothing, I too want to see more proof! System kernel is way too important to install from unknown sources!

I'd prefer the developer to have a verified MSFN account, I don't trust github after reading their TOS.

[D.Draker]

On 11/30/2024 at 9:19 AM, Kpsa4 said:

Maybe just somebody wanted to fake it,

Forgot to tell, It's good to have clear thinking people on MSFN, (I just made you a compliment).

So, please go on, keep up.

[AstragonQC]

On 11/30/2024 at 8:52 AM, D.Draker said:

Now, thanks to @xYannikx,  we know it's also a fake, @AstragonQC, please delete your post with the fake, someone can report, if not already.

BTW, I wouldn't believe that story about the mother. Too soapy, and his English is very bad, too bad for someone (allegedly) from Australia.

I see. However there's something I want to clarify as this situation is really confusing.

So, according to Yannik's message, the account is from an impersonator.
I don't want to defend a fake, but it seems this situation is more complicated than just a random "fake".

Dotexe's message is from 09/11/2024, so it may imply that the impersonator deleted the repo and made a new one with that message?
I note that as the commit hash tied to the release is not the same on the screenshot and in the currently accessible repo.
The repo itself seems to have been created on 16/11/2024, as the account history shows it as it.

That makes no sense.
And even if it's true, why Vx didn't left a stub account as he was probably aware that someone could impersonate him to spread shady stuff.
I mean, If I was him, I would know that as the name is known, simply make it available to the first random isn't a smart idea, so even if
I decide to disappear from the Internet, I would let stubs in place just to prevent impersonators.

About the story about the mother, I should be more wary. It probably triggered a sensitive part of me as I still have the sudden passing of my
father two years ago in the throat. So here is another proof that even the most cautious user on the Internet can be fooled by a such talk.

I'm confused. Really.
Nevertheless @D.Draker I will comply with your request and remove the link. This situation becomes more and more weird as time files.

But I really need an explanation, and especially about the deletion of his account despite he was aware of the consequences of that action.

[D.Draker]

11 hours ago, AstragonQC said:

About the story about the mother, I should be more wary. It probably triggered a sensitive part of me as I still have the sudden passing of my
father two years ago in the throat. So here is another proof that even the most cautious user on the Internet can be fooled by a such talk.

My French brother, please accept my deepest condolences. That loss is so tragic, no words can describe.

And yes, be on your guard with scammers, they usually know our weak places, where to push. 

Prenez soin de vous ! / Take care.

[Kpsa4]

4 hours ago, D.Draker said:

I agree with you, at this point we still know nothing, I too want to see more proof! System kernel is way too important to install from unknown sources!

I'd prefer the developer to have a verified MSFN account, I don't trust github after reading their TOS.

All fine and I understand what do you mean with the verified MSFN account.  But this is only your point of view and maybe point of view of some other people here, because you and them are active here for some time and know this place and trust it. But let’s start thinking about the global reality.  And the global reality is most of the people probably don’t even know MSFN forums exists. Some of them don’t even prefer to use Github as it should be used. The example is the Chinese guy here:

https://github.com/i486/VxKex/issues/36#issuecomment-2508751433

But it doesn’t mean he wants to make trouble for anybody. I fully agree with you, that system kernel extension is very important part of the system and if somebody wants to make bad things, this is really good opportunity.  But on the other side Win7 is no more something masses are using. Those , who are still using Win7, usually got reasons for that and that means there is more percentage of users with some higher level skills, included debugging. They can check and inspect the final product..

Also look what MS did with newer versions of Windows. Tons of crap added, tons of telemetry etc. Where is the trust anymore? That is for example one of the reasons I’m still using Win7 and I don’t plan to switch to more recent versions of Windows at all. I’m using Linux distros on server machines, but on desktop I still prefer Win7 and I hope it should be good at least for few more years.

In my opinion if the Win7 extended kernel project might be working and live project for the future, then we need everybody who got skills and time to work on it. Such a project cannot be single man project in long time period.  And as far as it is kept open source, there is imho enough ways to control the possible bad attempts.

I also think that all those rumors and saying this is “fake” - this is not “fake” might be something what keeps some people away from the project, because they simply don’t want such a bul***** in their lives.

MS did with newer versions of Windows what they did. It is no more what it was before. And there are people who never accept the new Windows concept and if those people want keep using last non-crippled Windows version – Windows 7, then those people must trust each other and cooperate together. We are these people. That’s the only way we can keep Win7 alive for new versions of applications and continue to use it.

[KittyMaster]

I’ve provided a detailed account here for anyone seeking more answers.

https://msfn.org/board/topic/183465-windows-7-extended-kernel/page/8/#findComment-1276105