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3 hours ago, Wunderbar98 said:

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Dave-H wrote:
If 360Chrome is sending it to China and/or Russia, they can fill their boots as far as I'm concerned.
I hope they choke on it!
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A detailed telemetry analysis would be more productive. In older browsers some IP addresses may no longer connect or redirect.

On topic because you made it on topic:
Racist hate speech from a moderator in an international forum, wishing harm on others, for shame. Hate begets more hate, stop the cycle to create an environment where we can all co-exist peacefully.

This incident has not (yet) been reported, let your conscience be your guide.

My posts may drift off topic but i'm not in the business of promoting hate. In most modern workplaces, including USA, your comment would promptly trigger a security escort out the door. If your lucky, maybe paid or unpaid leave until the incident is investigated.

Background, both my parents and spouse's parents come from authoritarian countries (Asia and Europe). I can assure you there are good and evil people everywhere. Most citizens, for obvious reasons, do not choose to live in an authoritarian environment. Some were fortunate enough to leave (escape) but the hate and racism continues for them regardless where they live.

Off-topic:
Most Asian and Russian hackers would quickly make a mockery of our abilities.

Post-script:
Relevant screengrabs archived as current moderators have created an environment of mistrust by deleting undesirable posts.

Is this a joke, right ? I don't see any "racist" commentaries in @Dave-H's speech, what he meant is we know for sure 

because the browser and the starter app (both) were made by the Chinese and/or Russians,

no other countries involved. I'd even say DAVE-H is very tolerant, perhaps too tolerant sometimes.

And we are overloaded and tired of tolerance, in my opinion.

And there were lots of "detailed reports" over the years with this browser, including IPs.

 
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3 hours ago, Wunderbar98 said:

Off-topic:
Most Asian and Russian hackers would quickly make a mockery of our abilities.

No. You don't know the scene, obviously.

 

3 hours ago, Wunderbar98 said:

Post-script:
Relevant screengrabs archived as current moderators have created an environment of mistrust by deleting undesirable posts.

What for ? Please tell us.

 

3 hours ago, Wunderbar98 said:

In most modern workplaces, including USA, your comment would promptly trigger a security escort out the door. If your lucky, maybe paid or unpaid leave until the incident is investigated.

By "your" you meant Dave's ? Well DAVE-H is always welcome in France, I will find him avery good job personally !

I can assure you - he will not be "investigated" here, under my personal protection.

 

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4 hours ago, Wunderbar98 said:

A detailed telemetry analysis would be more productive. In older browsers some IP addresses may no longer connect or redirect.

On topic because you made it on topic:
Racist hate speech from a moderator in an international forum, wishing harm on others, for shame. Hate begets more hate, stop the cycle to create an environment where we can all co-exist peacefully.

This incident has not (yet) been reported, let your conscience be your guide.

My posts may drift off topic but i'm not in the business of promoting hate. In most modern workplaces, including USA, your comment would promptly trigger a security escort out the door. If your lucky, maybe paid or unpaid leave until the incident is investigated.

Background, both my parents and spouse's parents come from authoritarian countries (Asia and Europe). I can assure you there are good and evil people everywhere. Most citizens, for obvious reasons, do not choose to live in an authoritarian environment. Some were fortunate enough to leave (escape) but the hate and racism continues for them regardless where they live.

Off-topic:
Most Asian and Russian hackers would quickly make a mockery of our abilities.

Post-script:
Relevant screengrabs archived as current moderators have created an environment of mistrust by deleting undesirable posts.

You undeservedly accused @Dave-H of "racism", and I accuse you because you lack respect for the English language, how's that ?

You don't know the difference between "your" and "you're" and I'm insulted. You have no respect for His Majesty !

For this in most places, including USA, your comment would promptly trigger a security escort out of the door. If you're lucky, maybe paid or unpaid leave until the incident is investigated.

A detailed telemetry analysis would be more productive, only if you prove us wrong. 

No, I've changed my mind. No "analysis" will make me use this browser again.

 

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6 hours ago, D.Draker said:

No, I've changed my mind. No "analysis" will make me use this browser again.

Then your presence in this thread is "trolling" and in no way improves this browser for those that actually require this browser.

That goes for XP users in particular, which I have always stated is technically the only users that truly need this browser, other options exist for other OSes.

Those of us that DO use this browser have a vested interest to IMPROVE it.

 

WHICH CANNOT BE DONE IN THE ENVIRONMENT THAT THIS THREAD HAS BEFALLEN!

 

This should be a fair question - what is the "agenda" with this current environment towards 360Chrome - To improve it?  Or to wipe it (including Humming Owl's releases) off the face of the Earth?

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39 minutes ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

To improve it?

To improve it, of course.
Thank you very much for all your efforts!

The only thing to do is NOT to reply to these messages that fan the flames.
And not to worry about them, because their arguments are frivolous, not serious...

We users are with you.

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1 hour ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Those of us that DO use this browser have a vested interest to IMPROVE it.

WHICH CANNOT BE DONE IN THE ENVIRONMENT THAT THIS THREAD HAS BEFALLEN

Comments containing racism / ethnic phobias /  & geopolitical diarhea have poisoned this thread.

This is an important thread that needs aggressive moderation in order to keep close to its stated purpose.

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3 hours ago, taos said:

Comments containing racism

Let's leave the moderation to the moderators.

I prefer to have my browsers free of any possible traces of chinese or russian government influences... which is done here, thanks to ArcticFoxie's and Humming Owl's work!:worship:

So I thank them, I am grateful to them. As my parents taught me.

It's called expressing gratitude for someone's work.

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4 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

To improve it?

Of course to improve it. Your effort on such a browser is greatly appreciated. (and Humming Owl's effort too, of course)

3 hours ago, taos said:

Comments containing racism / ethnic phobias /  & geopolitical diarhea have poisoned this thread.

We can ignore these comments. They are not worth our time.

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11 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Then your presence in this thread is "trolling" and in no way improves this browser for those that actually require this browser.

That goes for XP users in particular, which I have always stated is technically the only users that truly need this browser, other options exist for other OSes.

Those of us that DO use this browser have a vested interest to IMPROVE it.

 

WHICH CANNOT BE DONE IN THE ENVIRONMENT THAT THIS THREAD HAS BEFALLEN!

 

This should be a fair question - what is the "agenda" with this current environment towards 360Chrome - To improve it?  Or to wipe it (including Humming Owl's releases) off the face of the Earth?

Why do you address this question to me ? After reading the latest developments, confirmed by multiple users (now including me) about the behaviour of this browser,

I made a decision to never use it again, what's so hard to understand ?

EDIT: Thank you.

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Hello @NotHereToPlayGames! First of all, I would like to express my sincere respect for all the efforts, work and time you have invested and continue to invest in your projects.

And now, in media res! You said:

On 12/13/2022 at 10:29 AM, NotHereToPlayGames said:

That goes for XP users in particular, which I have always stated is technically the only users that truly need this browser, other options exist for other OSes.

Those of us that DO use this browser have a vested interest to IMPROVE it.

This should be a fair question - what is the "agenda" with this current environment towards 360Chrome

I still use Windows XP as my main operating system. It runs on a very old computer that no longer supports more modern operating systems. So I am a real Windows XP user on a period correct hardware which this OS was developed for. These old computers have low system resources and are naturally very underperforming compared with current hardware. Unfortunately, your version 360Chrome v13.5 build 2022 does not run properly on such systems. And that is just the problem. Only there is it really needed! On computers which can't run more recent OSs and can't be upgraded in terms of their hardware. Therefore, I personally decided to use UXP browsers and Mypal 68 (in single-process mode) only, which can reasonably handle the hardware resources offered and work well in general. All websites which don't work anymore on my old system are called up in a modern browser on my tablet or notebook. Unfortunately, 360Chrome v13.5 build 2022 is basically a rather badly ported version like all the other 360Chrome versions. But probably, these browsers can't be ported any better either, which should also be mentioned here. Anyway! 360Chrome v13.5 build 2022 performs background accesses which are totally strange and unnecessary. The RAM consumption is beyond good and evil. Old processors groan under the load generated by this browser. Furthermore, all 360Chrome browsers are causing BSODs on my system. All other browsers or programs work fine and without any serious problems. In any case, no chance for me to use 360Chrome v13.5 build 2022 for bearable surfing. The unauthorised sending of data is not a problem for me. This can be controlled by the router or firewall settings or tools like Proximotron. All members here who use this browser on Windows XP with multi-core processors and a lot of memory, possibly in a VM, are not true Windows XP users. It's not their main OS. They can always call up much more up-to-date browsers on their computer if certain web pages no longer work properly in the browsers on the Windows XP system by using their host system or one of their multi-boot systems. In general, I personally would never install Windows XP on a modern computer with powerful, much more recent hardware because it wouldn't make any sense, due to many reasons. Anyway! Nearly all of these 360Chrome editions as v12, v13 and v13.5 are simply unusuable on real Windows XP systems with a period correct hardware. So as far as I am concerned and presumably others similarly affected, it actually does not make sense to invest so much time in modifying the code of 360Chrome v13.5 build 2022 if the real Windows XP users with a period correct hardware can't use it and participate from it. Unless you do it mainly for yourself! For whatever reason! I say this because you recently mentioned that you had abandoned Windows XP and upgraded all your computers to Windows 10, as far as I remember correctly, at least. And one thing is clear. The browser 360Chrome v13.5 build 2022 is also long outdated. More and more websites will no longer work properly day by day, as can already be observed in some cases now. We know about our friend Google. Update, update, update ...
In the end, your project will not reach the real Windows XP users who are desperately looking for a modern browser on their old, weak systems, because the actual browser code is not modified here. At the moment, you mainly reach users with hardware where other more modern operation systems can be installed additionally without any problems. And we know in these OSs much more recent browsers are able to do their work. Of course, you can also support only those users who are not really dependent on Windows XP or who use it just for fun. In any case, you should ask yourself whether the effort is really worth it then. :dubbio: Ultimately, it's simply your sole decision!

Kindest regards, AstroSkipper :)

PS: With "period correct hardware" I mean such hardware which existed or was sold when Windows XP was released, and logically not years after. idee.gif

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Hi

Personally I have no problem with 360chrome V13.5.2022. I use a PC that is 18 years old, with Windows XP2 x86 with a pentium 4 at 3Ghz and 2GB of memory and an AGP Ati Radeon 4650 graphics card, and it works properly without ever bsod problem with the use of Chrome V13.5.2022.

Unlike Newmoon and serpent ,chrome13.5.2022 does not use hardware acceleration for videos,.but I fixed the problem with the add-on "youtube redux" and "Viewtube" which runs Vlc in integration in youtube.
 a big thank you for their provision of XP browser allowing us to use our old machines.
NotHereToPlayGames and Humming Owl: personally you have all my gratitude. :worship:

for example, try to make the content of this "whatever.social" Newmoon or serpent ...good luck

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6 hours ago, IXOYE said:

Hi

Personally I have no problem with 360chrome V13.5.2022. I use a PC that is 18 years old, with Windows XP2 x86 with a pentium 4 at 3Ghz and 2GB of memory and an AGP Ati Radeon 4650 graphics card, and it works properly without ever bsod problem with the use of Chrome V13.5.2022.

Hello @IXOYE! Then you are one of the lucky guys who bought their hardware years after Windows XP was developed and released. But that's not really period correct hardware. Windows XP was released in 2001. Three years of further hardware development is a very long time. So it is quite clear that you have no resource problems with 360Chrome v13.5 build 2022. Of course, I am happy for you, but unfortunately, you were not meant with period correct hardware. And as already described in my previous comments, the BSODs occur with all 360Chrome browsers in combination with WiseVector StopX, which is probably the most up-to-date AV program that supports Windows XP and is still under active development. And that is not a good sign. So if you don't use WiseVector StopX, you can't notice any BSODs. In any case, no other browsers or programs cause such BSODs on my system. But, thanks for your opinion and information!

Cheers, AstroSkipper metiers1.gif

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2 hours ago, IXOYE said:

Hi

Personally I have no problem with 360chrome V13.5.2022. I use a PC that is 18 years old, with Windows XP2 x86 with a pentium 4 at 3Ghz and 2GB of memory and an AGP Ati Radeon 4650 graphics card, and it works properly without ever bsod problem with the use of Chrome V13.5.2022.

Unlike Newmoon and serpent ,chrome13.5.2022 does not use hardware acceleration for videos,.but I fixed the problem with the add-on "youtube redux" and "Viewtube" which runs Vlc in integration in youtube.
 a big thank you for their provision of XP browser allowing us to use our old machines.
NotHereToPlayGames and Humming Owl: personally you have all my gratitude. :worship:

for example, try to make the content of this "whatever.social" Newmoon or serpent ...good luck

I'm with you, my friend, I think this same!

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5 hours ago, msfntor said:

You had won a medal of real "FAKE NEWS"!

You want to discourage the developer in his own topic, not very nice... Have you done anything better in this area? Who pays you for this?. .we can easily guess.

These are pure and simple LIES only.

Examples: never seen that ArcticFoxie "abandoned Windows XP and upgraded all ... computers to Windows 10" ... 

ALL websites work flawlessly in 360Chrome v13.5, except for a few very difficult to find.... and browser code is polished from time to time...

"Kindest regards, AstroSkipper" - no, not very kind. Not kind at all. Skip this thread rather, AstroSkipper (using of XP Pro x86, haha).

Dear Gawd, why do we have so many accusers here !? 

First, it's *at least* not polite to accuse a respected member such as @AstroSkipper, not to mention him being Frisian !

Second - It's not "fake news", I encountered exactly the same behaviour with this browser and provided screenshots in the now locked topic. 

Don't forget another new member confirming this.

Third - AstroSkipper is very kind and always polite, like most of the Germanic people.

I love the the way how he compiles sentences and I would love him to be my English teacher ! Dreams, dreams ...

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