WhiteArmpits Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) Hello, I'm new here, and I wanted to know if it's possible to run some modern versions of Minecraft on Windows 98SE with an Intel 855PM chipset, I have an ATI Radeon 7500 graphics card, which is compatible with those versions, but the game still doesn't run, and I also can't find anything about the chipset and Minecraft compatibility on the web Edited October 2, 2022 by WhiteArmpits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangoomis Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 I saw your comment under TheMiningTeam's YouTube video Video in question, for those interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw1RcdOSlTo Perhaps if other people with similar hardware to yours replicated steps from the video to try to run Minecraft, that could narrow the cause. I have a ThinkPad T42p (15 inch version) which is similar to your laptop, but it has a ATI Mobility FireGL T2 GPU with 128MB VRAM and it's based on a newer architecture. I will try to run Minecraft as instructed from the video on my laptop and will let you know if it runs, if I find the time, life's busy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteArmpits Posted October 3, 2022 Author Share Posted October 3, 2022 Thanks man, when do you think it will be possible for you to try since that you're busy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteArmpits Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 On 10/2/2022 at 8:08 PM, MrMateczko said: I saw your comment under TheMiningTeam's YouTube video Video in question, for those interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw1RcdOSlTo Perhaps if other people with similar hardware to yours replicated steps from the video to try to run Minecraft, that could narrow the cause. I have a ThinkPad T42p (15 inch version) which is similar to your laptop, but it has a ATI Mobility FireGL T2 GPU with 128MB VRAM and it's based on a newer architecture. I will try to run Minecraft as instructed from the video on my laptop and will let you know if it runs, if I find the time, life's busy. Got enough time to reply at least? I've been waiting for over a week now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangoomis Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Hi I haven't forgotten about your topic, I have it on my lists of things to do, I'll post here when I test it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteArmpits Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) On 10/11/2022 at 10:15 PM, MrMateczko said: Hi I haven't forgotten about your topic, I have it on my lists of things to do, I'll post here when I test it out. Hello, thanks for the update, either way while I was waiting for your reply I tried to run Mesa 7.8.2 to 17.0.0 by putting it on the game folder, but Minecraft crashes saying that javaw.exe isn't working properly whenever I put the dll file there, even when I enable kernelex, got any ideas? Edited October 19, 2022 by WhiteArmpits Didn't explain well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumper Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 What are your results when you follow the instructions in the video? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteArmpits Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 6 hours ago, jumper said: What are your results when you follow the instructions in the video? All the versions up to 1.6.4 work perfectly, 1.7.2 lags a lot, and any versions after that won't work because of my hardware, but the audio engine starts even up to 1.7.10, when using mesa 6.5.2 it works up to 1.16.5, but still lags a lot, and works properly only up to b1.7.3, with newer versions of mesa, none of the versions of the game seem to work, I tried to enable kernelex in the DLLs and executables, but nothing changed, I would still get the same error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC7601 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) You need OpenGL 2.0 GPU in order to run newer versions than 1.7.11. Although versions up to 1.13 starts up with my Radeon 9200SE (which is an OpenGL 1.3 GPU) on XP, I couldn't get it to play. Edited November 4, 2022 by SC7601 Wrong OGL and MC version information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteArmpits Posted October 22, 2022 Author Share Posted October 22, 2022 5 hours ago, SC7601 said: You need OpenGL 2.0 GPU in order to run newer versions than 1.7.2. Although versions up to 1.13 starts up with my Radeon 9200SE (which is an OpenGL 1.4 GPU) on XP, I couldn't get it to play. Thanks for the confirmation, but is it possible to run it through mesa 17.0.0? If not then I guess I should give up and just stick with the older versions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC7601 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 I tried Mesa with 1.16.5, but even in smallest screen, it lagged like hell. The CPU is Pentium 4 524 which was OC'ed to 3.45 GHz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangoomis Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Hello @WhiteArmpits I have tried running Minecraft 1.8 as instructed in the video on my ThinkPad T42p with the ATI Mobility FireGL T2 that should support OpenGL 2.0 in theory as seen in TechPowerUp: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/ati-m10.g249 vs your GPU https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/ati-m7.g199 However, upon launching, all I get is a garbled screen and a complete system freeze. It seems that the ATI OpenGL driver for Win9x (for those laptop GPUs at least) is not fully compatible with OpenGL 2.0 as seen in AIDA64: (can you show how it looks like on your laptop?) Perhaps Windows XP driver has support for OpenGL 2.0 for those GPUs, I would have to check this myself, you can also try using Windows XP, should have much better luck there. I haven't tried Mesa, but from my experience, trying to run any software emulation of OpenGL or D3D9 is usually a pain in Win9x, since most of the time, it is not working at all, and even if it worked, the performance would probably be very bad, as SC7601 points out. Version 1.7.2 worked fine. I can try running 1.8 it on my Core 2 Duo PC with the GeForce 7900 GTX, it should work there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteArmpits Posted October 22, 2022 Author Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 hour ago, MrMateczko said: Hello @WhiteArmpits I have tried running Minecraft 1.8 as instructed in the video on my ThinkPad T42p with the ATI Mobility FireGL T2 that should support OpenGL 2.0 in theory as seen in TechPowerUp: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/ati-m10.g249 vs your GPU https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/ati-m7.g199 However, upon launching, all I get is a garbled screen and a complete system freeze. It seems that the ATI OpenGL driver for Win9x (for those laptop GPUs at least) is not fully compatible with OpenGL 2.0 as seen in AIDA64: (can you show how it looks like on your laptop?) Perhaps Windows XP driver has support for OpenGL 2.0 for those GPUs, I would have to check this myself, you can also try using Windows XP, should have much better luck there. I haven't tried Mesa, but from my experience, trying to run any software emulation of OpenGL or D3D9 is usually a pain in Win9x, since most of the time, it is not working at all, and even if it worked, the performance would probably be very bad, as SC7601 points out. Version 1.7.2 worked fine. I can try running 1.8 it on my Core 2 Duo PC with the GeForce 7900 GTX, it should work there. here you got my OpenGL specs in case, but I'm still curious, is Minecraft up to 1.12.2 laggy too on mesa 17.0.0? I did expect 1.16.5 to lag a lot, but I do very rarely play versions after 1.12.2, and therefore that isn't great news to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangoomis Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Try using AIDA64, Everest doesn't show info regarding which OpenGL version is supported, AIDA64 latest version does work under Win9x. Use ZIP version, if experiencing BSOD, remove kerneld.w9x from AIDA64 files. I can try using Mesa, going to be a long process testing all those versions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteArmpits Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, MrMateczko said: Try using AIDA64, Everest doesn't show info regarding which OpenGL version is supported, AIDA64 latest version does work under Win9x. Use ZIP version, if experiencing BSOD, remove kerneld.w9x from AIDA64 files. I can try using Mesa, going to be a long process testing all those versions... ok, now it should give you a better idea of my OpenGL specs, thanks for the recommendation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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