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Windows 7 support long gone , but still on the current OS list !?


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33 minutes ago, D.Draker said:

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-version-market-share/windows/desktop/worldwide/

Try this on for size  --  that website shows a tiny 0.49% of worldwide desktops run XP.  Sounds about right to me.

Then according to here we have 339.77 million Personal Computers in 2021.

339,770,000 times 0.0049 = 1,664,873.

I love my XP, but I was expecting worldwide XP machines to only be in the tens of thousands, not 1.66 million.

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3 hours ago, Jaguarek62 said:

cyberpunk implemented it, red dead redemption 2 etc.. it is being utilized

cyberpunk ?! You mean the one where the devepolers had to pay $1.85 million due to the numerous bugs to their investors ? Well , not a good example , indeed.

https://screenrant.com/cyberpunk-2077-lawsuit-settlement-payout-cd-projekt-red/

I see how it's being "utilized" )))))

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3 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Try this on for size  --  that website shows a tiny 0.49% of worldwide desktops run XP.  Sounds about right to me.

Then according to here we have 339.77 million Personal Computers in 2021.

339,770,000 times 0.0049 = 1,664,873.

I love my XP, but I was expecting worldwide XP machines to only be in the tens of thousands, not 1.66 million.

I'm not sure why you asked about XP. My question was about Win 7.  Anyways , since you asked , why not bring XP and Vista back to the main page ? Don't you think ? 

Absolutely unpopular Windows 8 is in the main OS page , but XP and Vista not . Yet all I see here lately , mostly XP topics/questions and Vista Kernel/Updates/Browsers.

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54 minutes ago, D.Draker said:

why not bring XP and Vista back to the main page ?

To be perfectly honest, I could care less where they are at.  My bookmark is the "Unread Content" link.  Then I tinker with my Stylus custom style sheet so that "popular" threads that I could care less about (StartAllBack, decommissioning of update servers, what do we even do at this point, anything with "kernel" in the title, anything with 95, 98, or 2000 in the title) are all completely hidden - out-of-sight, out-of-mind.  Don't care about 'em, don't even need to see them on "my" Unread Content list.  Whoala, "problem solved".

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1 hour ago, D.Draker said:

cyberpunk ?! You mean the one where the devepolers had to pay $1.85 million due to the numerous bugs to their investors ? Well , not a good example , indeed.

https://screenrant.com/cyberpunk-2077-lawsuit-settlement-payout-cd-projekt-red/

I see how it's being "utilized" )))))

it does not change the fact, that it is being used. cyberpunk was just example. Do you have something against red dead too?

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15 hours ago, Jaguarek62 said:

it does not change the fact, that it is being used. cyberpunk was just example. Do you have something against red dead too?

I'm sorry , I don't purchase 150GB (!) games that require "Broadband Internet connection" . Besides , did you read the specs ?

How can it use DX12 if it requires GTX770 (a TEN years old card based on GTX680). GTX770 does NOT have DX12 . 

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1174180/red_dead_redemption_2/

GT770 specs , no DX12 , as you can see. "...the feature level is only 11_0, which can be problematic with newer DirectX 12 titles. "

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-770.c1856

It's not "true" DX12 , it's some soft wrapper . That would explain why this game runs on a 11 years old DX11 card.

"In Red Dead Redemption 2, there is no visual difference between selecting Vulkan or DirectX 12"

"Based on the earliest benchmarks are reports from players, Vulkan offers slightly higher average frame rates"

 

https://www.shacknews.com/article/114834/should-you-choose-vulkan-or-directx-12-in-red-dead-redemption-2

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38 minutes ago, D.Draker said:

I'm sorry , I don't purchase 150GB (!) games that require "Broadband Internet connection" . Besides , did you read the specs ?

How can it use DX12 if it requires GTX770 (a TEN years old card based on GTX680). GTX770 does NOT have DX12 . 

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1174180/red_dead_redemption_2/

GT770 specs , no DX12 , as you can see. "...the feature level is only 11_0, which can be problematic with newer DirectX 12 titles. "

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-770.c1856

It's not "true" DX12 , it's some soft wrapper . That would explain why this game runs on a 11 years old DX11 card.

"In Red Dead Redemption 2, there is no visual difference between selecting Vulkan or DirectX 12"

"Based on the earliest benchmarks are reports from players, Vulkan offers slightly higher average frame rates"

 

https://www.shacknews.com/article/114834/should-you-choose-vulkan-or-directx-12-in-red-dead-redemption-2

you know what. you have to be right every time, don't you? You are one of the reasons I left vista community. Since you can't use vista without the help of this forum I knew that it makes no sense. You basically disagree with everything. I will say just this and say no further reply. D3D12on7 is real, it is being used in wow,red dead, cyberpunk. it was used in call of duty series and probably many other games I'm not even aware. I'm glad that over on 8.1 topics, you're not present. I think that you and I should avoid each other. My computer meets requirements to play modern titles and I'm glad. I don't know anyone who would use an old gtx 770. 1650 super has no problems whatsoever with playing my favorite games (including cyberpunk btw). It might not be on the highest details, but it works. Windows 7 is and will be for a while a supported os unlike vista. once chrome drops support then I will consider it EOL. anyone but D.Draker and Dixel is welcome to join the discussion with me. 

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3 hours ago, Jaguarek62 said:

D3D12on7 is real, it is being used in wow,red dead

Oh really ?! Where ? It's DX9ex . Old tech., similar to DOA 5. My PC also meets the reqs . My specs are shown on the profile.

DX9EX.png

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1 hour ago, D.Draker said:

Yet you didn't hide Windows 3.1

It doesn't hit the Unread Content forty times per day (I exaggerate for "effect", but I wouldn't be surprised if the "update servers" thread exceeds that in a day), so no, I don't see the need to hide 3.1  :ph34r:

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17 minutes ago, Jaguarek62 said:

anyone but D.Draker and Dixel

I place my hand on a Bible and swear to God and everything Holy - for the LONGEST time, I assumed these both to be the SAME PERSON.

I don't think that anymore, I admit (only one of these two is on my "ignore list").  But I agree, @Jaguarek62, the "always right" persona is nearly identical between these two.

Of course, I also say that as a person whom my own father accuses me of always being right and I always return, "Apple didn't fall far from the tree?" or "Pot? Kettle?" and we chuckle and move on.

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3 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

the "always right" persona

First , I don't owe you anything , so I don't have to prove anything . I'm writing this only out of respect to the whole MSFN and to you too (BTW).

Second , you gotta be fair , no ? Why do you choose sides ? The difference between us (Jaguarek63 and me) is that he just says , and I supply with hard proof.

All of that can be easily verified. Like this image I showed . The game runs on DX9ex . And then again , I don't argue with him . I already wrote, I trust him and don't understand the hostility . If in his world this game runs fine on a budget card with DX12 , that's fine by me . I'm really glad for him! I'lL just ignore what the specs show and pretend like everything is cool . OK ?

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No issues, D.Draker.  Carry on.
I'll add this thread to my "out-of-site, out-of-mind" Stylus sheet.
I was not trying to take sides but see how it probably looked that way.
But correcting people's grammar (not just me, I've seen this done to others) ???
I'm not submitting any of my replies for a doctorate thesis - so I could care less if I mipsel wards are had grammar miptaques hear are their.
No dog in this fight.
Moving on.
"Out of sight, out of mind."

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