D.Draker Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) Hello , I'm just curious , why Windows 7 still in the current OS list ? While Vista in the "older" ! Windows 7 support ended on January 14, 2020 (more than two years ago!) https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-7-support-ended-on-january-14-2020-b75d4580-2cc7-895a-2c9c-1466d9a53962 In the meantime, Windows Server 2008 (based on Vista) still gets extended rollup packs and they work for ordinary Vista too ! (that's of course if you have a licence) https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/february-8-2022-kb5010384-monthly-rollup-44eacd6e-d5bb-43d3-9ac1-0757e588c3a6 Seems to be unfair , don't you think ? I'm pretty sure the ESU licence could be bought for Server R2 too , but that places the two OS in the exact same spot ! Be it "older" or "current" . EDIT: I think it's the question for the supervisors. I'm curious what @Tripredacus thinks about it . Edited February 13, 2022 by D.Draker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripredacus Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 The forum is not bound by what is and isn't supported. Windows 7 is a top-level sub-forum due to the activity. It has come up in private discussion to move it, the question was then: why? There is no harm to keep it the way it is. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaguarek62 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Tripredacus said: The forum is not bound by what is and isn't supported. Windows 7 is a top-level sub-forum due to the activity. It has come up in private discussion to move it, the question was then: why? There is no harm to keep it the way it is. also windows 7 usage is huge in comparison to vista/server 2008. Windows 7 still receives newest chrome updates, steam. Got support from microsoft by backporting d3d12 libraries etc.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunryze Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Yeah, Windows 7 is still considered a major operating system right now. It may not be supported, but there are still a lot of computers out there on 7. Not as much as 10/11 in the personal world, but commonly businesses and Embedded devices especially. Doesn't top how many Linux powered devices there are though. Linux-based things rule every market except the personal desktop space. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Draker Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Jaguarek62 said: Got support from microsoft by backporting d3d12 libraries etc.. And do you have a link to that microsoft update , thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Draker Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Tonny52 said: Yeah, Windows 7 is still considered a major operating system right now. It may not be supported, but there are still a lot of computers out there on 7. Not as much as 10/11 in the personal world, but commonly businesses and Embedded devices especially. Doesn't top how many Linux powered devices there are though. Linux-based things rule every market except the personal desktop space. Still doesn't answer my question . Judging by this logic (amount of users and PCs), Win 8 , 11 and perhaps 10 too should be moved to the "others" section . Yet they are on TOP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Draker Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 4 hours ago, Tripredacus said: The forum is not bound by what is and isn't supported. Windows 7 is a top-level sub-forum due to the activity. It has come up in private discussion to move it, the question was then: why? There is no harm to keep it the way it is. I see , thanks . And what about Windows 8 then ? Two and a half users , yet in the Top charts. Windows 8 market share is at 0.18% (way below Vista) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaguarek62 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 3 hours ago, D.Draker said: And do you have a link to that microsoft update , thanks. it is not windows update. It is called d3d12on7 and can be implemented by any game developer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaguarek62 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 3 hours ago, D.Draker said: Windows 8 market share is at 0.18% (way below Vista) . 8.1 exists. it has around 4% of marketshare 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Draker Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Jaguarek62 said: it is not windows update. It is called d3d12on7 and can be implemented by any game developer You wrote "support from microsoft" , implying it's official , now you're saying could be "implemented by any game developer". So there's nothing then , just like I thought. In terms of DirectX level , Vista = Windows 7 (Both DirectX 11). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Draker Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Jaguarek62 said: 8.1 exists. it has around 4% of marketshare In 2013 ? Maybe . But now it's : Win8.1: 2.94 % Win11: 2.43 % WinXP: 0.49 % ... https://gs.statcounter.com/os-version-market-share/windows/desktop/worldwide/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaguarek62 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, D.Draker said: You wrote "support from microsoft" , implying it's official , now you're saying could be "implemented by any game developer". So there's nothing then , just like I thought. In terms of DirectX level , Vista = Windows 7 (Both DirectX 11). you should do your research before saying that. IT IS official. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/samples/microsoft/directx-graphics-samples/d3d12-12-on-7-sample-win32/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Draker Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 8 hours ago, Tripredacus said: Windows 7 is a top-level sub-forum due to the activity. As of lately , seems this is the top one . https://msfn.org/board/topic/178377-on-decommissioning-of-update-servers-for-2000-xp-and-vista-as-of-july-2019/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Draker Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Jaguarek62 said: you should do your research before saying that. IT IS official. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/samples/microsoft/directx-graphics-samples/d3d12-12-on-7-sample-win32/ Well , I asked you . I have no reason not to trust you . Yet what you say is NOT implemented yet . I mean , there is nothing for us , ordinary customers . (no update packages , no such "games" , nothing). Just articles , empty promises and rumours. Don't you remember the twenty-years-long story about DX10/11 being ported to XP ? LOL ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaguarek62 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, D.Draker said: Well , I asked you . I have no reason not to trust you . Yet what you say is NOT implemented yet . I mean , there is nothing for us , ordinary customers . (no update packages , no such "games" , nothing). Just articles , empty promises and rumours. Don't you remember the twenty-years-long story about DX10/11 being ported to XP ? LOL ! cyberpunk implemented it, red dead redemption 2 etc.. it is being utilized 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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