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On 8/27/2022 at 2:42 AM, soggi said:

Yeah...I know, I have to answer to some previous posts from the last weeks/months...hope I can do so next week... :rolleyes:

Thank you, and don't feel pressured. We appreciate your efforts here. Take your time.

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4 hours ago, anton12 said:

mina7601  
could not open the website with Serpent (latest version ?)

I actually opened the website with Serpent version 2022-08-06, but I tried it with the latest version (2022-08-27) just now, and it works as well in the latest version.

Oh, and I didn't do any user agent spoofing. I opened it with the default user agent. :)

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8 hours ago, VistaLover said:

(for ABBO) 

general.useragent.override.addons.basilisk-browser.org;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Goanna/5.2 Firefox/68.0 Basilisk/52.9.2022.08.06

Basilisk/52.9.2022.08.06? I'm surprised ABBO accepts that. Wasn't MCP's final Basilisk version released over a year ago?

But, as long as it works.

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6 minutes ago, Mathwiz said:

Basilisk/52.9.2022.08.06? I'm surprised ABBO accepts that.

All Basilisk-related infrastructure was transferred to the new owner/maintainer of the Basilisk/UXP application:

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=28657

The ABBO "service" was configured to accommodate the app's new owner:

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=28657#p230858

The most-up-to-date Bk release is v52.9.2022.08.06, available also as a 32-bit compile!

12 minutes ago, Mathwiz said:

Wasn't MCP's final Basilisk version released over a year ago?

... Well, actually no :P ; the "EoS" Basilisk version released by MCP was (as a 64-bit compile, only) v52.9.2022.01.27, so just over 7 months ago... That version was built on the ill-fated GRE platform and had no internal updater - that is, you have to fetch and run the standalone setup for 52.9.2022.08.06 in order to update it...

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So (official) Basilisk lives again, under new management! I guess money talks.

Official Basilisk doesn't run on the "older OSes" that are the focus of this subforum; still, I'm surprised. I don't remember reading anything about this news before now.

I do hope the new owner is less hostile to XP/Vista forks than MCP was. He did say to a Mac developer:

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I am fine with the community releasing builds using either your fork's Silver branding or the Serpent branding included in the official repo....

... which is encouraging.

@roytam1's Serpent has diverged from official Basilisk in several ways other than retaining XP support, since Roytam also retained support that MCP removed for e10s, WebExtension add-ons, container tabs, and possibly lots of other stuff I'm forgetting. Still, it's nice to know there's an "upstream" again.

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https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Molecular-Signals-of-Epigenetic-States-Bonasio-Tu/a18fbff79418f690335a3a357d198e72b436c390

Thank you  mina7601  for your answer:
"I actually opened the website with Serpent version 2022-08-06, but I tried it with the latest version (2022-08-27) just now, and it works as well in the latest version.
Oh, and I didn't do any user agent spoofing. I opened it with the default user agent."

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Question:
Did you click away the ACCEPT & CONTINUE button to gain
FULL access to the above website with
Serpent IA32 Win32 (2022-08-27) ?

PS:
Please,mind the difference - it's  IA32 Win32

https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20220827-3219d2d-uxp-5ae83c47f-xpmod-ia32.7z

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Recently google drive and google docs have stopped working with New Moon 28  (a version from last November '21).

The latest NM28 version also displays the same behavior.   I tried again with a new profile and the result was the same.

This occurred on windows 7.   I don't have my XP laptops with me to test there.

Here is the error console.  Hopefully it's something minor :)

 

google docs.JPG

google drive.JPG

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I forgot that I have a win 7 / xp dual boot PC.  It's early in the morning here, don't you know :)

I updated to the latest NM28 on XP and got similar results.

 

2022-08-29-000003.jpg

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12 hours ago, taos said:

This occurred on windows 7.   I don't have my XP laptops with me to test there.

 What made you think that latest NM28 would behave differently in rendering web content between (first) Win7 and (then) WinXP? If the site in question renders broken in Win7, there's almost certainty it will do so under XP... :( The opposite is not always true, when the site's server performs UA-sniffing and blocks loading/rendering simply based on the OS (XP) reported in the UA... :realmad:

12 hours ago, taos said:

Recently google drive and google docs have stopped working with New Moon 28

Already reported upstream:

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=28747

12 hours ago, taos said:

Hopefully it's something minor :)

Sadly, it's not; as your posted Error Console Log says, this is due to missing Regex Unicode Property Escapes support in UXP :( ; upstream have open issues for it at:

https://repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildProductions/UXP/issues/1282

(=> https://repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildProductions/UXP/issues/1286 [closed, unresolved]

=>) https://repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildProductions/UXP/issues/1675

but they have seen little action as of late... :(

TL;DR: Switch to a Chromium-based browser for Google's proprietary services... :realmad:

(... perhaps the palefill extension can be enhanced to add such missing support into UXP-based browsers, but it's not ready yet... )

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12 hours ago, anton12 said:

Question:
Did you click away the ACCEPT & CONTINUE button to gain
FULL access to the above website with
Serpent IA32 Win32 (2022-08-27) ?

Yes, I clicked the button, but it didn't do anything.

12 hours ago, anton12 said:

PS:
Please,mind the difference - it's  IA32 Win32

https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20220827-3219d2d-uxp-5ae83c47f-xpmod-ia32.7z

Yes, I know. I am using the Win32 one, not the IA32 Win32 one.

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I am the owner of the Basilisk project.

While I have no issue with Serpent being developed, at this time I do not plan to restore Windows XP support into the official Basilisk release. In the last release I reinstated 32-bit Windows 7 builds. Those of you on a newer 32 bit Windows OS should be able to use those builds. The 2022.08.06 32 bit installer has a bug where the installer does not actually run on 32 bit OSes. That will be fixed in the next release sometime in September.

I do intend to remove the Serpent branding from the upstream Basilisk repo. I will let roytam1 have that and create a new unofficial branding for people who use self compiled Basilisk builds so there is no confusion.

If there are any bugs that affect both the official Basilisk and Serpent feel free to open an issue and I'll see if I can address it. Please make sure bugs affect Basilisk first before reporting them, I can't provide any support for Serpent.

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1 hour ago, basilisk-dev said:

I am the owner of the Basilisk project.

While I have no issue with Serpent being developed

Many thanks for your presence here and your moderate/kind language :thumbup .

1 hour ago, basilisk-dev said:

I do not plan to restore Windows XP support into the official Basilisk release

To the best of my knowledge, this was not a request for you inside these forums ;) ; "official" (as in by MCP) Bk never came with support for XP/Vista (while that was true for its initial fork point, Mozilla Firefox 52.6.0); what was probably meant is that you do not declare full-blown war against the Serpent 52.9.0 fork by Roytam1...

While the main dev, myself and several other "advanced users" of St52 ALWAYS make it clear that St52 != Bk, some of the (newer) St52 users on XP occasionally turn to the official PM forums for St52 support; this is wrong on them, albeit a small "nuisance" for you that you "should be prepared" to live with for as long as these users can't tell apples from oranges ;) ; kindly redirect them here until, as you said, you remove the "Serpent" unofficial branding from Basilisk (which, hopefully, reduces the number of these "occasions") ...

What is really hoped for "here" is that you "accept/acknowledge" the existence of the "fork" and that both user groups (Bk+St52) mutually benefit between them... :)

2 hours ago, basilisk-dev said:

In the last release I reinstated 32-bit Windows 7 builds. Those of you on a newer 32 bit Windows OS should be able to use those builds.

I am much grateful for that :thumbup ; a second laptop in my household still runs Win7 SP1 x64 on 2010 era H/W, with only 4GB of RAM; 32-bit Bk runs better there, without depriving the OS from needed resources to concurrently run other applications...

2 hours ago, basilisk-dev said:

If there are any bugs that affect both the official Basilisk and Serpent feel free to open an issue and I'll see if I can address it. Please make sure bugs affect Basilisk first before reporting them,

Perhaps you could also accept Basilisk-specific verified bugs in another section of the MSFN forums, possibly in 

https://msfn.org/board/forum/200-web-browsers ?

2 hours ago, basilisk-dev said:

I can't provide any support for Serpent.

Yes, this is crystal clear and shouldn't be expected of you :P ...

Since I spoke of Basilisk-specific verified bugs, kindly revisit below report:

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?p=231584#p231584

I verified it in my own Bk-52.9.2022.08.06 x86 installation; the default setting for PDF files in Basilisk is to "Preview in Basilisk"; with that setting enforced, the embedded PDF.js viewer should be triggered to open (on-line/local) PDF files inside a browser tab[/window]; but in your latest Bk Windows build, the resultant tab[/window] is blank :( ...

OTOH, Serpent 52.9.0 (x86) doesn't suffer from this; the OP's on-line PDF file, 

https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/2018/02/WG1AR5_Chapter12_FINAL.pdf

opens, as expected, in the native PDF viewer, inside a browser tab (the file itself is ca. 35.5MiB in size, so the speed at which it fully renders depends on your connection...).

Welcome to MSFN, my kindest regards :) !

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