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3 hours ago, nicolaasjan said:

Don't know if they're breaking the licence (I'm not a lawyer), but it's a shady loophole for sure.

well mpl licence can technically allow limit access to source code while give access to it for some. Things like that kinda ruin whole idea of having open source project. I always though open source meant anyone can modify and access it freely but was wrong:no:. Impression was mostly given since iceweasel was not killed by mozilla for licence violation, none of system d free distros were not killed by mainstrem distro etc.

I really hope current moonchild production owners would leave the project and someone with sense would come instead. I said mozilla will sink first but seems Palemoon will before it. Atleast mozilla wont attack against librewolf or ff45 sse. Mozilla is funded by google so palemoon was only indepent project (custom engine and was able work without mozilla), but developers will kill it themself:unsure:

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8 hours ago, Dave-H said:

https://imgur.com/ doesn't work here on FF 52.9.1 ESR.
Just a blank black page.
:(

Hi Dave ... hope you're well :)

Yes, blank page. I spoof to FF62 as below:

user_pref("general.oscpu.override", "Windows NT 10.0");
user_pref("general.platform.override", "");
user_pref("general.useragent.compatMode.version", "62");
user_pref("general.useragent.override", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:62.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/62.0");

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13 hours ago, Gansangriff said:

What a missed opportunity to advertise Pale Moon as that ressource-easy that it can even run on an 20 year old Windows XP machine. With a slogan like: "Look, this scrap computer runs Pale Moon. Then yours can run it, too."

When Pale Moon project was started, it wasn't about catering to old hardware. From the day one, its goal was to take advantage of modern CPUs and their newer instruction sets while Firefox was the one that catered to ancient CPUs.

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21 minutes ago, UCyborg said:

When Pale Moon project was started, it wasn't about catering to old hardware. From the day one, its goal was to take advantage of modern CPUs and their newer instruction sets while Firefox was the one that catered to ancient CPUs.

palemoon goal was also remove many of antifeatures firefox had and that os why it runs better on many hardware. It wont focus bloat, rather to do what web browser is designed to, view HTML documents. Only thing I would consider "bloat" is sync feature but atleast it wont push it to my face all the time. Mozilla turned bloat at one point and palemoon kept is optimised code instead of adding useless featues. Many say Palemoon render engine is bad because it is slow and cannot play DRM videos . It is slower and wont work on some new site not because it is bad and old rather since Chromium optimised technologies. It was like back in day peoples said Netscape and Opera did not support latest web standard that ie did while IE standards were broken to begin with. Also Palemoon devs did not bother with EME since it is antifeature

And I think gansangriff meant their decision artificially block XP and being hostile torward anyone even thinking it. Well Tobin was hostile torwards openbsd devs too. Feels like they do not want anyone use their browser.

They should update their slogan to

"Your browser your way (UNLESS you want use legacy firefox extensions, since I want artificially block them, want run it on anything expect teh latest and greatest windows since we artificially block older versions I mean they cannot run and roytam1 never did make it work on xp or anything or want make your custom build which case we will hunt you down like did to openbsd version and Mypal.)

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For Firefox 45 or 52 can repair the general.useragent.override.name, only need to transfer

config.js in C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox

//
Components.utils.import("resource://gre/modules/UserAgentOverrides.jsm");
UserAgentOverrides.init();

config-prefs.js in C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\defaults\pref

pref("general.config.obscure_value", 0);
pref("general.config.filename", "config.js");

both files https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/lz2ajj9mm0w151u/45_52.zip

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16 hours ago, Mr.Scienceman2000 said:

It is slower and wont work on some new site not because it is bad and old rather since Chromium optimised technologies.

My experience is that it's slower in general regardless of what websites you visit and the computer horsepower. I got tired of Basilisk/Pale Moon over time, not just the speed, but not freeing used memory and eventually just locking up if opened too much sites throughout the session. Less of a problem these days as my browsing habits got less demanding and consequentially, I can also live without some bells and whistles PM and the likes still offer.

One thing I do however get with recent FX versions and the likes of Chromium is proper integration with KeePass. KeeFox extension is kinda glitchy, sometimes it just doesn't pick up the login form and lacks the ability to popup a box to choose the correct credentials if multiple exists for the same site. Its webext iteration Kee solves these problems. Seems nobody is actually interested in fixing XUL version...

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23 hours ago, XPerceniol said:

Hi Dave ... hope you're well :)

Yes, blank page. I spoof to FF62 as below:

user_pref("general.oscpu.override", "Windows NT 10.0");
user_pref("general.platform.override", "");
user_pref("general.useragent.compatMode.version", "62");
user_pref("general.useragent.override", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:62.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/62.0");

Perfect, thank you!
:thumbup
I used the "Custom UserAgent String" extension.
I'm very well thanks!
:yes:
 

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On 9/4/2021 at 3:35 PM, UCyborg said:

When Pale Moon project was started, it wasn't about catering to old hardware. From the day one, its goal was to take advantage of modern CPUs and their newer instruction sets while Firefox was the one that catered to ancient CPUs.

How ironic that the Pale Moon developers are circling the drain over "web standards" and are now taking everyone down with them.

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5 hours ago, Montana Slim said:

"web standards"

what is that "standards thing". I have not heard from it. Every company claims to be standard but in reality all abuses their market power in name of standards:no:. As someone who needs work multiplatform "standards" causes support hell. Only real web standard was XHTML

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And now the Classic Addons Archive's files are gone as well...

See:

https://old.reddit.com/r/waterfox/comments/phgle9/classic_ad_on_archive_unfortunately_has_been_shut/

https://github.com/JustOff/ca-archive/issues/100

The complete archive is still accessible via this URL (or via the Internet Archive):

https://cdn.waterfox.net/AMO/caa20190306.tar.xz ( 14GB compressed ! )

(file list)

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Appears to only be a hosting issue.

 

Good luck trying to download just for the sake of a local archive.

Tried 7 or 8 times from three different web browsers and the download keeps failing!

 

Ah, didn't see the torrent the first time.

Trying that route...

 

Torrent not connecting  :no:

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On 9/4/2021 at 12:24 PM, XPerceniol said:

Hi Dave ... hope you're well :)

Yes, blank page. I spoof to FF62 as below:

user_pref("general.oscpu.override", "Windows NT 10.0");
user_pref("general.platform.override", "");
user_pref("general.useragent.compatMode.version", "62");
user_pref("general.useragent.override", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:62.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/62.0");

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This is NM28 and click the newpost button to get the blank page

 

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1 hour ago, ArcticFoxie said:

Good luck trying to download just for the sake of a local archive.

Tried 7 or 8 times from three different web browsers and the download keeps failing!

it is working here:

$ wget https://cdn.waterfox.net/AMO/caa20190306.tar.xz
--2021-09-06 22:49:32--  https://cdn.waterfox.net/AMO/caa20190306.tar.xz
Resolving cdn.waterfox.net (cdn.waterfox.net)... 2a0b:4d07:702::1, 68.70.197.132
Connecting to cdn.waterfox.net (cdn.waterfox.net)|2a0b:4d07:702::1|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 15294739676 (14G) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: ‘caa20190306.tar.xz’

caa20190306.tar.xz   27%[====>               ]   3.92G  1.28MB/s    in 55m 21s

2021-09-06 23:44:55 (1.21 MB/s) - Read error at byte 4208361004/15294739676 (Error decoding the received TLS packet.). Retrying.

--2021-09-06 23:44:56--  (try: 2)  https://cdn.waterfox.net/AMO/caa20190306.tar.xz
Connecting to cdn.waterfox.net (cdn.waterfox.net)|2a0b:4d07:702::1|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 206 Partial Content
Length: 15294739676 (14G), 11086378672 (10G) remaining [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: ‘caa20190306.tar.xz’

caa20190306.tar.xz   55%[+++++=====>         ]   7.98G  1.68MB/s    in 48m 3s

2021-09-07 00:33:00 (1.44 MB/s) - Read error at byte 8563743784/15294739676 (Error decoding the received TLS packet.). Retrying.

--2021-09-07 00:33:02--  (try: 3)  https://cdn.waterfox.net/AMO/caa20190306.tar.xz
Connecting to cdn.waterfox.net (cdn.waterfox.net)|2a0b:4d07:702::1|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 206 Partial Content
Length: 15294739676 (14G), 6730995892 (6.3G) remaining [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: ‘caa20190306.tar.xz’

caa20190306.tar.xz   81%[+++++++++++====>    ]  11.57G  1.53MB/s    in 41m 52s

2021-09-07 01:14:56 (1.47 MB/s) - Read error at byte 12422257189/15294739676 (Error decoding the received TLS packet.). Retrying.

--2021-09-07 01:14:59--  (try: 4)  https://cdn.waterfox.net/AMO/caa20190306.tar.xz
Connecting to cdn.waterfox.net (cdn.waterfox.net)|2a0b:4d07:702::1|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 206 Partial Content
Length: 15294739676 (14G), 2872482487 (2.7G) remaining [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: ‘caa20190306.tar.xz’

caa20190306.tar.xz  100%[++++++++++++++++===>]  14.24G  2.01MB/s    in 27m 42s

2021-09-07 01:42:41 (1.65 MB/s) - ‘caa20190306.tar.xz’ saved [15294739676/15294739676]

 

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For me, ImgUr works only if I have signed in to my account. Otherwise I get a grey screen. I also often get a grey screen when I follow an album link, which people usually post even when there is only one picture.

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