IXOYE Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Hi 9 hours ago, VistaLover said: Dear @IXOYE vandal-1.1.0-fx.xpi is yet another Firefox-targeting Web Extension that will not install on Serpent, because it's a type of WE called an "id-less" one... I have in the past, over many occasions, explained ad nauseam the "why" and "how-to" install such WEs on Serpent... Thank you VistaLover, but after the changes on "manifest.json" this add-on settles well, but does not work on Serpent. It settles on firefox52 but does not work either ... brief ... trash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotHereToPlayGames Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, VistaLover said: . . . transplanting a Fx profile onto St52 (or, worse, to St55) is a sure recipe for profile corruption, often times beyond repair! Agree "for the most part". It has worked for me but I never have more than SIX add-ons (NONE of which are of the Web Extension variety). I'm actually not a fan of St52 or St55 (so for that I will have to concede to "will have to take your word for it") and have basically only used this for Mypal and New Moon - but it has ALWAYS worked. My "base" is Mypal v27.9.4 and that profile seems to ALWAYS be "backwards compatible" with EVERYTHING ELSE. So apologies for any mis-information. Edited May 26, 2021 by ArcticFoxie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VistaLover Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 On 5/26/2021 at 5:48 AM, IXOYE said: but after the changes on "manifest.json" this add-on settles (... installs?) well, but does not work on Serpent. It settles (... installs?) on firefox52 but does not work either Well, for future reference: 1. Mozilla do not currently check whether a WebExtension (WE) hosted on AMO works as expected with older Firefox versions ; https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vandal-navigator/versions/ reports that "Works with firefox 48.0 and later", but this is an automated setting generated by AMO infra based on the sheer fact it's a WE add-on... Considering this is a very recent extension, I seriously doubt its author has checked its proper functioning outside of latest release Firefox (88.0.1) and, possibly, latest FirefoxESR (78.x.x)... 2. If you plan to install a WE add-on on Serpent, first make sure it properly works in FxESR 52; if it does, then proceed to install on St52 (with "workarounds" if it's of the id-less type), but even then it's not a given it'll properly work under St52, because of a crippled set of WE-APIs there... This is something I highlighted already in my previous post On 5/25/2021 at 8:12 PM, VistaLover said: St52 != FxESR 52.9.0, especially with regards to WE APIs, so installing in St52 won't guarantee perfect functioning... On 5/26/2021 at 7:02 AM, ArcticFoxie said: So apologies for any mis-information. Well, it isn't like you committed a major mischief , I simply wanted (again) to spare members here of undesired consequences should they follow the much easier (but perilous) route of profile transplantation between different browser applications... I was very active in these threads [now renamed "My Browser Builds (Part 1)"] at an era I witnessed the mass exodus (of XP/Vista users) from the deprecated FxESR 52.9.0 to the then current versions of Serpent 52/55, and, against my own due warnings, people chose easiness over was what the "proper" thing to do: they simply migrated their FxESR52 profiles to St... - and then I would be "summoned upon" to troubleshoot very "weird" issues that, in the end, were due to this improper profile migration; that at a time when there was even closer proximity between FxESR52 and St52 of 2018... On 5/26/2021 at 7:02 AM, ArcticFoxie said: and have basically only used this for Mypal and New Moon - but it has ALWAYS worked. Both are forks of the same upstream application, MCP's Pale Moon, but differ as to what development channel they fork; Mypal uses the release (stable) PM channel and NM uses the unstable (dev) PM one... But one should make no mistake: the apps, especially in recent versions, are different enough under the hood that I'd never suggest myself they share the same profile; as you say, it might be much safer to share profiles between Mypal 27 and NM27 but as you move towards more recent codebases, it ceases to be so (e.g., I wouldn't move a Mypal 29.2.0 profile over to NM 28.10.3a1 and vice-versa) ... Of course, it is a trait of the human nature to prefer the easiest/shortest path, so I might sound like "preaching" here ... But, once you've made your own choice, whatever that is, be prepared to suffer any eventual consequences... Best regards 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitaro1 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Palemoon to Mypal: I installed Palemoon, I set and closed Palemoon. The contents of the profile removed leaving xulstore.json. I paste the crowding of mypal profile without xulstore.json. I have a strange browser. Is it useful? Many extensions from mypal does not work with Palemoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicolaasjan Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, kitaro1 said: Many extensions from mypal does not work with Palemoon. Since recently, Pale Moon blocks extensions that do not comply with their new standards... Try this under Preferences ---> Security: Edited May 27, 2021 by nicolaasjan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitaro1 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 1 hour ago, nicolaasjan said: Try this under Preferences ---> Security: I did so and failed. No way. Palemoon is from windows 7+. Mypal is from XP +. Tobi successfully destroyed popular extensions for older versions. I copied and pasted extensions, unpacked xpi. I have achieved nothing. I only have uBO legacy. Mypal and Tobi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicolaasjan Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, kitaro1 said: I did so and failed. No way. Palemoon is from windows 7+. Mypal is from XP +. Tobi successfully destroyed popular extensions for older versions. I copied and pasted extensions, unpacked xpi. I have achieved nothing. I only have uBO legacy. Mypal and Tobi? Do you have this part in "install.rdf" in the xpi files: <em:targetApplication> <Description> <em:id>{8de7fcbb-c55c-4fbe-bfc5-fc555c87dbc4}</em:id> <em:minVersion>27.0.0</em:minVersion> <em:maxVersion>29.*</em:maxVersion> </Description> </em:targetApplication> Note the "<em:maxVersion>29.*</em:maxVersion>" line. Edited May 27, 2021 by nicolaasjan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VistaLover Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Official Pale Moon requires at minimum Win7, so support requests for it should be better directed/placed in the respective OS forums... Be that as it may, if users of PM wish to install "legacy" Firefox-only targeting extensions, against the wishes of PM's makers, the method to go by is probably the one below: 1. First enable the setting pointed out by @nicolaasjan, i.e. PM won't block any blacklisted add-ons (the same setting can be achieved via about:config, by disabling the blocklist completely, extensions.blocklist.enabled => false or, alternatively, render it ineffective by setting extensions.blocklist.level => 3 2. Install in PM the latest version of JustOff's Moon Tester Tool: https://github.com/JustOff/moon-tester-tool/releases/tag/2.1.3 3. Have the "legacy" Fx-only targeting add-on available in the form of an .XPI file, saved on disk; the latter can be obtained from CAA, other online repositories or, possibly, copied from the profile of another application where that add-on was already installed (limited to extensions that were not unpacked during installation) ... 4. Use the .XPI file(s) to install in PM with the aid of MTT (Moon Tester Tool); the extension(s) will appear inside PM's add-on manager (AOM) with a [TEST] prefix; those extensions won't be auto-updated, but this isn't an issue for unmaintained legacy Fx extensions, completely forsaken by their original authors... However, I don't see the reason myself why you should choose official PM if on Win7+ over either Mypal/New Moon; these two browsers do not impose any restrictions upon legacy Fx add-ons and, to the best of my knowledge, will launch and run without issues on OSes other that XP... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitaro1 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 OK extensions TEST palemoon+mypal. Thank VistaLover 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roytam1 Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 Advance Notice: due to lack of commits from upstreams, no builds will be published tomorrow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechnoRelic Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) https://msfn.org/board/topic/182647-my-browser-builds-part-3/?do=findComment&comment=1200309 User @rereser did post below (URL above) with SOLUTION to the situation. I just BLOCKED in uBlock Origin (UBO Extension) that 'Adobe' website ... adobedtm.com And the problem is SOLVED ... THANKS so much , I would never have known ... (My Original Message Content, left in place below, to describe situation) I am having strong problems to load pages (articles) on these two major USA News websites. Which, they would be: https://www.nbcnews.com ... (and) ... https://www.msnbc.com (Note: I should have said 'Error with a NON-RT Browser too' -- as more accurate) So, this happens with ALL RT Browsers, in fact ALL Browsers for WinXP OS: (1) The HOMEPAGE does NOT load on the first try. ... I have to REFRESH(s) reload it, then I see it. (2) IF I then try to open a URL from the HOMEPAGE ... For an ARTICLE, it only shows a BLANK PAGE. ... But, the HTML CODE is there inside of the ... 'VIEW SOURCE CODE' if I open that via Browser. Is ANYONE ELSE seeing this as I am ??? Edited May 31, 2021 by TechnoRelic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VistaLover Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 1 hour ago, TechnoRelic said: NEITHER of these URLs below will OPEN for me in ANY RT Browser , or ANY Browser (MyPal). https://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/tiger-woods-discusses-recovery-first-interview-car-crash-n1268898 https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/why-biden-s-6-trillion-budget-proposal-essentially-meaningless-n1268882 First link: Second link: What errors/warnings does the Web/Browser console print? Have you tried loading those URIs in fresh browser profiles? All OK here,,, 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainyShadow Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 @TechnoRelic If a clean profile doesn't help, rename your HOSTS file and try again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IXOYE Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 (edited) Hi 11 hours ago, TechnoRelic said: I am having strong problems to load pages (articles) on these two major USA News websites. Which, they would be: https://www.nbcnews.com (and) https://www.msnbc.com So, these URLs above are affiliated websites. They are both owned by NBC.COM firm. So, this happens to me with ALL the RT Browsers. And I even installed MYPAL Browser, same problem. (1) The HOMEPAGE does NOT load on the first try. ... I have to REFRESH(s) reload it, then I see it. (2) IF I then try to open a URL from the HOMEPAGE ... For an ARTICLE, it only shows a BLANK PAGE. ... But, the HTML CODE is there inside of the ... 'VIEW SOURCE CODE' if I open that via Browser. Is ANYONE ELSE seeing this as I am ??? This has been happening for a couple days now. NEITHER of these URLs below will OPEN for me in ANY RT Browser , or ANY Browser (MyPal). https://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/tiger-woods-discusses-recovery-first-interview-car-crash-n1268898 https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/why-biden-s-6-trillion-budget-proposal-essentially-meaningless-n1268882 IF this is some HACK that was 'perped' on my WinXP Home OS (32bit), then count me as IMPRESSED by it. Other websites (News) seem working FINE for me. I have exactly the same problem with his links, it does not work on Firefox 52.9,Mypal ,Centaury, Serpent 52/55,Newmon 27/28, Bnavigator, Firefox 45.9.33, Iceape-upx and Otter-browser on windows XP It works very well if you use a proxy on all these browsers PROXY I think the problem is " https://www.msnbc.com " which poses a problem with OS XP " Edited May 29, 2021 by IXOYE 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechnoRelic Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 (edited) https://msfn.org/board/topic/182647-my-browser-builds-part-3/?do=findComment&comment=1200309 User @rereser did post (next message) below (URL above) with SOLUTION to the situation. I just BLOCKED in uBlock Origin (UBO Extension) that 'Adobe' website ... adobedtm.com And the problem is SOLVED ... THANKS so much , I would never have known ... (Leaving in place most of what I originally said in this message, as 'record' of sorts) @IXOYE , @VistaLover , @RainyShadow , @XPerceniol <-- THANKS to Reply to me here on this ODD WinXP OS situation. To 'IXOYE' especially , I say 'Misery Loves Company' ... NOT quite thankfully , I am 'pleased' to know that someone ELSE ('IXOYE') WAS (is) 'suffering' too ... Edited May 29, 2021 by TechnoRelic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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