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On 1/27/2021 at 6:34 PM, ArcticFoxie said:

A word of caution in advance, this *will* CRASH your browser and you *will* have a TON of error dialogs to clear.

But the computer does remains responsive - I'm only crashing the browser and not the OS.

 

I did this in a WinXP VirtualBox with 2GB RAM - the numbers would vary plus or minus 5 or so with consecutive runs.

v11 crashed with only roughly 58 about:blank's opened.

v12 crashed with roughly 74.

V13 crashed with roughly 97.

 

Note that I"m only loading "about:blank" tabs but this test DOES demonstrate that newer versions don't crash as early as older versions with a "ton of tabs" open.

 

Here's how (I use the "portable repack", so these instructions will need modified if you use the "installed" version versus the "portable") -

Create a "crash.bat" file (without the quotes) in the same folder that contains "360Loader.exe".

When you execute crash.bat, several about:blanks will open and *will* eventually CRASH  --  the command prompt will stop incrementing when no more about:blanks will load - ie, you crashed your browser.

 

The crash.bat contents follow  --

 

@echo off
for /l %%i in (1,1,1000) do (
  echo Tab Count: %%i
  start 360Loader.exe "about:blank"
  ping 127.0.0.1 -n 1 > nul
)

 

Happy Crashing  :)

Please note that this thread discussed a similar crash back in pages 16 and 17.

Tests then showed *better* RAM handling with v13 over v12 and with v12 over v11.

It's not so cut-and-dried as looking at RAM amount and doing "simple math" as to which number is larger or smaller - IT IS NOT THAT "SIMPLE".

We also have to factor in that v11 is based on Chrome 69 - which does not multi-thread or at the very least is "first generation" multi-threading.

Keep us posted as you try v13 (or maybe even v12).

As I suspect that NEITHER will have this "crash bug" that I cannot replicate on my hardware but seems consistent on your hardware.

 

Keep us posted...

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11 hours ago, Cixert said:

Another option I have found is to override Isolation
chrome: // flags / # site-isolation-trial-opt-out
But I have not observed real effects.

Here are two overrides submitted back in Page 16.

--enable-low-end-device-mode

--enable-low-res-tiling

I did not observe any effects when I tried these several months ago but maybe they will on your setup.

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Another tip already mentioned previously in this thread is to launch 360EE with the cmdline argument:

 --process-per-site

so that tabs under the same domain (e.g. all facebook.com tabs) are loaded by the same unique browser process; I tested this briefly in the past, but since I never get to having more than 25 open tabs and very few, if any, among them share the same domain, I did not witness a noticeable reduction in RAM consumption (tried on 360EEv12/v13) ...  :dubbio: YMMV, of course...

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Normally I would direct you to here -- https://lrepacks.net/repaki-programm-dlya-interneta/182-360-extreme-explorer-amp-portable.html

BUT builds 2210, 2212, and 2216 of v13 are all BROKEN as far as ENGLISH (ie, Developer Tools).

So I remain on build 2206.

A Google search found build 2206 here, I suggest it until the newer releases fix the English in Developer Tools  --  https://mega4up.com/c9zq51tq6r6i

TAKE CAUTION  --  "mega" hosting cites try to "trick" you into the WRONG download link!

Click on the Free Download button, fill in the not-a-robot-crap, click create download link, click the click here to download, it will usually open a new tab - CLOSE THAT TAB, it is NOT the real download.

Click the click here to download a SECOND time - this should start the REAL download  --  the file name is 360_extreme_explorer_13.0.2206.0.zip

If it tries to get you to download an .exe, CANCEL the download and click the click here to download again until it finally downloads the ZIP file.

NEVER download .exe files from "mega" hosting cites!

But that's the only place I could find build 2206 as far as a download link.

 

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Thanks for the link! It was very difficult to download it from the official's Russian Repack site. It's fast and some things that don't work in Serpent/Basilisk work well under 360, such as Blackboard's videocalls and I plan to test Skype calls. I'm really don't scared about it's telemetry, because today any Chromium browser have some kind of telemetry. However, as a precaution, I blocked it's official website (hau.360.com), because I thought it could send some data. Blocking their website I can have more guarantee that they have less possibilities to steal my data.

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3 hours ago, Sergiaws said:

I blocked it's official website (hau.360.com), because I thought it could send some data. Blocking their website I can have more guarantee that they have less possibilities to steal my data.

Add the below sites to your adblock custom filter rules:

rec.360.cn

dl.360tpcdn.com

down.360safe.com

hs.browser.360.cn

hao.360.cn

*.f.360.cn  

se.360.cn

*.alicdn.com

*.browser.360.cn  

*.mediav.com  

*.ssl.qhres.com  

www.redbaby.com.cn

*.ip.taobao.com

www.rsks.sdrs.gov.cn

utohome.com.cn

abbs.com.cn

auto.sina.com.cn

amazon.cn 

crt.comodoca4.com

www.abchina.com

www.alipay.com

ise.sapi.so.com

auto.sohu.com

p0.qhimg.com

tencent.com

e10.net

163data.com.cn

chrome.360.cn

ext.chrome.360.cn

pvstat.qihoo.com

crash.browser.360.cn

weibo.com

bbs.360.cn

query.rec.360.cn

tt.browser.360.cn

papi.look.360.cn

weather.hao.360.cn

mini.browser.360.cn

cdn.weather.hao.360.cn

skin.chrome.360.cn

yun.chrome.360.cn

yun.browser.360.cn

browser.360.cn

cloud.browser.360.cn

dd.browser.360.cn

pub1.sdns.360.cn

p0.ssl.qhimg.com

p1.ssl.qhimg.com

p2.ssl.qhimg.com

p3.ssl.qhimg.com

p4.ssl.qhimg.com

p5.ssl.qhimg.com

s0.ssl.qhimg.com

s0.ssl.qhres.com

s3.ssl.qhres.com

s4.ssl.qhres.com

 

Block all those IPs below with your firewall:

 

8.238.101.126

8.238.101.1 - 8.238.101.255

68.232.34.240

68.232.34.0 to 68.232.34.255

36.96.0.0 - 36.127.255.255

52.222.232.78                        

101.198.0.0 - 101.231.255.255

104.192.108.0 - 104.192.111.255

106.32.0.0 - 106.121.255.255         

116.208.93.0 - 116.211.255.255

117.24.0.0 - 117.28.132.255

120.132.0.0 - 120.132.127.255

120.24.0.0 - 120.27.255.255

123.112.0.0 - 123.127.255.255

125.88.193.230

180.152.0.0 - 180.175.255.255

210.52.0.0 - 210.53.255.255

220.181.0.0 - 220.181.255.255        

203.130.48.0 - 203.130.63.255

42.81.35.32 - 42.81.67.255

10.211.37.182  

120.76.215.39  

106.39.219.24

58.222.32.0-58.222.63.255

101.197.0.0-101.198.197.255

42.224.0.0 - 42.239.255.255

65.99.192.0-65.255.255.255

106.0.0.0-106.31.255.255        

106.122.0.0-106.255.255.255       

119.144.0.0 - 119.147.255.255

140.205.0.0 - 140.205.255.255 

172.217.0.0 - 172.217.255.255

203.130.32.0 - 203.130.63.255

211.151.0.0 - 211.151.255.255 

165.193.78.252  

208.73.210.214  

208.73.210.200

113.0.0.0-113.202.255.255

111.206.66.62

54.192.98.0-54.192.99.255

85.10.210.166

91.199.212.52

94.130.73.112

95.216.27.30

104.20.10.222

104.20.11.222

151.101.36.133 

172.29.141.0-172.29.141.255

183.131.215.0-183.131.215.255

218.92.152.12

239.255.255.250

80.239.201.72

54.192.230.55

54.192.230.56  

180.163.237.176  

ADD these lines to your HOSTS file :

0.0.0.0  www.so.com

0.0.0.0  rec.360.cn

0.0.0.0  dl.360tpcdn.com

0.0.0.0  down.360safe.com

0.0.0.0  hs.browser.360.cn

0.0.0.0  hao.360.cn

0.0.0.0  .f.360.cn  

0.0.0.0  se.360.cn

0.0.0.0  .alicdn.com

0.0.0.0  .browser.360.cn  

0.0.0.0  .mediav.com  

0.0.0.0  .ssl.qhres.com  

0.0.0.0  www.redbaby.com.cn

0.0.0.0  www.rsks.sdrs.gov.cn

0.0.0.0  utohome.com.cn

0.0.0.0  abbs.com.cn

0.0.0.0  auto.sina.com.cn

0.0.0.0  amazon.cn 

0.0.0.0  crt.comodoca4.com

0.0.0.0  www.abchina.com

0.0.0.0  www.alipay.com

0.0.0.0  ise.sapi.so.com

0.0.0.0  auto.sohu.com

0.0.0.0  p0.qhimg.com

0.0.0.0  tencent.com

0.0.0.0  e10.net

0.0.0.0  163data.com.cn

 

ADDITIONAL , mostly for 360EE

52.64.0.0 - 52.79.255.255  

112.64.117.128-112.65.83.255

104.19.192.102

180.97.63.141

1.192.192.198 

101.224.0.0-101.231.255.255  

101.236.12.4  

103.37.142.167  

103.37.152.3  

104.122.244.89  

104.239.163.134  

116.55.241.187  

117.50.1.222  

120.133.2.210  

120.55.238.134  

122.14.236.13  

122.14.236.14  

122.228.248.110  

124.112.127.84  

124.225.182.153  

124.251.87.49  

149.154.163.72  

157.255.45.80  

157.255.45.88  

157.255.45.93  

157.255.45.94  

163.0.0.0-163.255.255.255  

183.136.132.110  

183.47.234.70  

183.47.234.82  

188.254.86.243  

188.254.86.254  

219.235.129.117  

220.170.48.76  

220.170.48.77  

220.170.48.80  

45.114.228.0-45.119.207.255  

58.51.168.127  

60.211.208.36  

87.245.197.32  

87.245.198.78  

87.245.200.88  

95.100.188.197  

95.163.144.221

104.192.108.21

104.192.108.18

104.192.108.17

 
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I very STRONGLY suggest using the REPACK version.

The hurdles to jump through aren't nearly so GIGANTUOUS as far as telemetry-prevention with the REPACK version.

I have personally only witnessed roughly 5% of Dixel's list so I would be curious to see screencaps of evidence that such a huge list is required even under the "official" (non-repack) version.

My HOSTS file blocklist suggestions are much much smaller and I've not yet witnessed anything in Dixel's list outside of the below --

0.0.0.0 browser.360.cn
0.0.0.0 cloud.browser.360.cn
0.0.0.0 dd.browser.360.cn
0.0.0.0 qurl.f.360.cn
0.0.0.0 chrome.360.cn
0.0.0.0 ext.chrome.360.cn
0.0.0.0 u.qurl.f.360.cn
0.0.0.0 puv.tt.browser.360.cn
0.0.0.0 p.ssl.qhimg.com
0.0.0.0 p0.ssl.qhimg.com
0.0.0.0 p1.ssl.qhimg.com
0.0.0.0 p2.ssl.qhimg.com
0.0.0.0 p3.ssl.qhimg.com
0.0.0.0 p4.ssl.qhimg.com
0.0.0.0 p5.ssl.qhimg.com
0.0.0.0 p.ssl.qhmsg.com
0.0.0.0 p0.ssl.qhmsg.com
0.0.0.0 p1.ssl.qhmsg.com
0.0.0.0 p2.ssl.qhmsg.com
0.0.0.0 p3.ssl.qhmsg.com
0.0.0.0 p4.ssl.qhmsg.com
0.0.0.0 p5.ssl.qhmsg.com

 

I've personally not witnessed all of the .p0 through .p5 items, but I keep the full sequence blocked "just in case".

I should point out that I delete errorpage.zip and newtab.zip and I've never used the "official" version, only the repack and only with a very large number of tweaks.

Too many tweaks to list here, but one of them is to open chrome.dll in HxD Hex Editor and replace all 265 (build 2206) ocurrences of "360.cn" (without the quotes) with "killed" (without the quotes).

Another tweak while in HxD Hex Editor is to zero-out the IP Address for "SystemHostResolverCall" (without the quotes).

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3 hours ago, ArcticFoxie said:

I very STRONGLY suggest using the REPACK version.

The hurdles to jump through aren't nearly so GIGANTUOUS as far as telemetry-prevention with the REPACK version.

I have personally only witnessed roughly 5% of Dixel's list so I would be curious to see screencaps of evidence that such a huge list is required even under the "official" (non-repack) version.

My HOSTS file blocklist suggestions are much much smaller and I've not yet witnessed anything in Dixel's list outside of the below --

0.0.0.0 browser.360.cn
0.0.0.0 cloud.browser.360.cn
0.0.0.0 dd.browser.360.cn
0.0.0.0 qurl.f.360.cn
0.0.0.0 chrome.360.cn
0.0.0.0 ext.chrome.360.cn
0.0.0.0 u.qurl.f.360.cn
0.0.0.0 puv.tt.browser.360.cn
0.0.0.0 p.ssl.qhimg.com
0.0.0.0 p0.ssl.qhimg.com
0.0.0.0 p1.ssl.qhimg.com
0.0.0.0 p2.ssl.qhimg.com
0.0.0.0 p3.ssl.qhimg.com
0.0.0.0 p4.ssl.qhimg.com
0.0.0.0 p5.ssl.qhimg.com
0.0.0.0 p.ssl.qhmsg.com
0.0.0.0 p0.ssl.qhmsg.com
0.0.0.0 p1.ssl.qhmsg.com
0.0.0.0 p2.ssl.qhmsg.com
0.0.0.0 p3.ssl.qhmsg.com
0.0.0.0 p4.ssl.qhmsg.com
0.0.0.0 p5.ssl.qhmsg.com

 

I've personally not witnessed all of the .p0 through .p5 items, but I keen the full sequence blocked "just in case".

I should point out that I delete errorpage.zip and newtab.zip and I've never used the "official" version, only the repack and only with a very large number of tweaks.

Too many tweaks to list here, but one of them is to open chrome.dll in HxD Hex Editor and replace all 265 (build 2206) ocurrences of "360.cn" (without the quotes) with "killed" (without the quotes).

It really feels like something personal . What do you want to say , smth like "Dixel is giving a bad advice" ?!  The poster clearly stated to you that he wants to use the original version and it is too hard for him to download from your link , did you see it ? It is his choice . So I'm giving the advice based on his wishes. It is very obvious, if you use another version (repacked) , the outcome will be different , no ? Errorpage.zip and newtab.zip is not connecting to any websites . lol. By deleting it you simply remove the chinese new tab and error warning in their language . Also , simply replacing 360.cn in Hex Editor won't give you the desired result . It would be too easy , wouldn't it ? You definitely need to dig much deeper . They aren't that silly to just left everything in the open ...

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21 hours ago, ArcticFoxie said:

I very STRONGLY suggest using the REPACK version.

Normally I would direct you to here -- https://lrepacks.net/repaki-programm-dlya-interneta/182-360-extreme-explorer-amp-portable.html

 

Also , I do not have anything against you personally , but this seems quite strange (just sayin') , I mean about how you insist on using repacked software from russian websites , typing in CAPS and all . I took a look at that site . It is a common russian warez website with tons of repacked commercial software. Is this even allowed by the moderators to redirect to such websites ?

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Easy, Grasshopper!

No malfeasance was intended so apologies if you felt that way.

Simply offering an alternative solution.

360Chrome is my DEFAULT browser, I believe you once told us that it is NOT your default.

BTW, caps are just a bad habit, maybe it's a generational thing, don't know.

We could start a poll but my hunch is that those of us that watch this thread because 360Chrome is our DEFAULT (or at least a "majority-use"), that we are using the REPACK versus the "official".

Again, no malfeasance intended.

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3 hours ago, ArcticFoxie said:

Easy, Grasshopper!

No malfeasance was intended so apologies if you felt that way.

Simply offering an alternative solution.

360Chrome is my DEFAULT browser, I believe you once told us that it is NOT your default.

BTW, caps are just a bad habit, maybe it's a generational thing, don't know.

We could start a poll but my hunch is that those of us that watch this thread because 360Chrome is our DEFAULT (or at least a "majority-use"), that we are using the REPACK versus the "official".

Again, no malfeasance intended.

Apologies accepted , peace.  Yes , I told that before , it is not my default browser. But it may very well become one in the future , once I remove the rest of the bloat. Why ? I'm looking for a solid browser without the need of the Vista's extended kernel because I use Vista without it . As of now , I wrote a programme that launches it in "sandbox mode". Why in quotes ? Because it's not as simple as it may seem , it is actually a hybrid mode with many features disabled/enabled , somewhat similar to what developers do when testing browsers. For example , this programme disables various code generators in 360's engine and I just can't tell everything because it would be too much to type and I'm not fond of typing . In short , I made it's launch blazingly fast and secure and I will not need to manually hex the .dll each time I want to use another version , since the programme will pass on everything I want to the main.exe . I still need to figure out how to disable some ports that left. I wanted to ask why do you use 2206 and not the first version 11.x.x. ? Do you really think chinese are fixing Chromium bugs ? lol

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I downloaded repacked version using the Cixert's link as I told. It currently won't be my default browser, but it could be before some time. I use it with some pages such as web.skype.com and similar pages, because their functions used to work better with Chromium browsers. Roytam do a lot of work with his Serpent and NewMoon (which don't work well with Screen Readers). The compatibility with screen readers is another reason why I'm starting to use 360. Maybe is not the best browser, but we don't have a lot of options. I expect that when 360 will drop XP we will have an extended kernel for XP

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