Explorer.exe crashing randomly a lot

[kuja killer]

Hmm i see. i looked at the changelog about what they did between .2 and .5 and it's just "update codec tweak tool" on them ... and "update iacros" which i did not install anyways. nothing specific about updating certain files or bugfixes except in earlier versions. So prob wont matter. :(

jumper - wow interesting info, still no way to ever find out what it was ?? i was monitoring that debug window minimized in the taskbar for all those months, and 1 thing i noticed is 2 dll's always load whenever i open anything like notepad, paint, ...almost anything really. but they always "unload" aproxmiately after 30 seconds. these 2:

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Wed Jul  8 00:08:54.749 2020 (UTC - 7:00): ModLoad: 405f0000 405f8000   C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSISIP.DLL
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--- 1st chance DLL_Load exception ----
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Wed Jul  8 00:08:54.749 2020 (UTC - 7:00): ModLoad: 7dfa0000 7dfb6000   C:\WINDOWS\system32\wshext.dll
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--- 1st chance DLL_Load exception ----
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Wed Jul  8 00:09:24.758 2020 (UTC - 7:00): Unload module C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSISIP.DLL at 405f0000
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--- 1st chance DLL_UnLoad exception ----
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Wed Jul  8 00:09:24.758 2020 (UTC - 7:00): Unload module C:\WINDOWS\system32\wshext.dll at 7dfa0000
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--- 1st chance DLL_UnLoad exception ----
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Wed Jul  8 03:02:31.159 2020 (UTC - 7:00): (f4c.454): Access violation - code c0000005 (first chance)

but im guessing it's not that. ..i looked in the folder and there like "microsoft signature" ..something and "windows shell ..windows script host" -- again i right clicked and looked at the dates and there dated from 2008 and 2010 ..so again they havent ever been touched. probably part of the Sevice Pack 3 windows updates, i dont really know.

It didnt crash until 3 hours later as you can see. I dont remember if i opened a notepad or paint window or PC game or whatever at that exact momment. but i would test lots of times and see only those 2 dll's pop up in the log, and unload exactly 30 seconds later. So i'm still clueless. :(