MrMADRYAN Posted December 26, 2019 Posted December 26, 2019 Hi everyone! I want to buy and SSD for my Vista PC and I am interested in Intel X-25E 64GB (Intel SSDSA2SH064G1GN) - it is based on SLC memory and I can buy one for 20 US$ new. As I know, TRIM is not supported or required to use this SSD, moreover Vista does not support TRIM out-of-the-box. And I am interested of this SSD wear level under Vista - will it be more, than under any modern OS? Yep, I use Vista, 'cuz some of my cartography software does not run under any other OS + I am a huge fan of this OS. Of cource, SATA AHCI Mode is enabled and no data defragmenting/search indexing will be done on the boot drive. I use Windows Vista 64-Bit SP2 Ultimate 6.0.6003.20491.
greenhillmaniac Posted December 26, 2019 Posted December 26, 2019 26 minutes ago, MrMADRYAN said: Hi everyone! I want to buy and SSD for my Vista PC and I am interested in Intel X-25E 64GB (Intel SSDSA2SH064G1GN) - it is based on SLC memory and I can buy one for 20 US$ new. As I know, TRIM is not supported or required to use this SSD, moreover Vista does not support TRIM out-of-the-box. And I am interested of this SSD wear level under Vista - will it be more, than under any modern OS? Yep, I use Vista, 'cuz some of my cartography software does not run under any other OS + I am a huge fan of this OS. Of cource, SATA AHCI Mode is enabled and no data defragmenting/search indexing will be done on the boot drive. I use Windows Vista 64-Bit SP2 Ultimate 6.0.6003.20491. You should also disable Superfetch/Prefetch, since Vista can be quite aggressive with those (it was made in the time when PCs had not a lot of memory but plenty of HDD space). You can use the instructions in this article: https://www.thewindowsclub.com/disable-superfetch-prefetch-ssd Additionally, you can also disable Windows Search, but that one shouldn't be as taxing on the SSD: https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/10246/how-to-disable-search-in-windows-7/ If TRIM is not needed on that SSD, you should be good otherwise. 2
MrMADRYAN Posted December 26, 2019 Author Posted December 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, greenhillmaniac said: If TRIM is not needed on that SSD, you should be good otherwise. But will Vista shorten lifespan of the drive more quickly than Windows 7/8/10? As I said - no TRIM is required/supported.
greenhillmaniac Posted December 26, 2019 Posted December 26, 2019 1 hour ago, MrMADRYAN said: But will Vista shorten lifespan of the drive more quickly than Windows 7/8/10? As I said - no TRIM is required/supported. If you disable the disk hungry services, such as the ones I mentioned, you should get just about the same wear level as Windows 7. Though I will admit I've never run Vista on a SSD, but I'm sure other members will share their experiences. 1
jaclaz Posted December 26, 2019 Posted December 26, 2019 Well you can trim on Vista just fine (manually), if it is possible on XP, it should be also on Vista: The point might be is wherther the specific SSD is "recognized" by available software. jaclaz
MrMADRYAN Posted December 27, 2019 Author Posted December 27, 2019 11 hours ago, jaclaz said: Well you can trim on Vista just fine (manually), if it is possible on XP, it should be also on Vista I can't - that SSD does not support TRIM at all. Is it ok for this OS?
cdob Posted December 27, 2019 Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) Use 'Intel SSD Toolbox' to TRIM the SSD manually. Try a old version at Vista too. https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/29205/Intel-Solid-State-Drive-Toolbox https://drivers.softpedia.com/get/HDD-SSD-NAS-USB-Flash/Intel/Intel-SSD-Toolbox-335.shtml Edited December 27, 2019 by cdob
jaclaz Posted December 27, 2019 Posted December 27, 2019 @MrMADRYAN Post the specific make/model of this SSD. jaclaz
MrMADRYAN Posted December 27, 2019 Author Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) Intel X-25E SSDSA2SH064G1GN, produced 21-jan-2010 Edited December 27, 2019 by MrMADRYAN Added date
WinClient5270 Posted December 27, 2019 Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) I have used Windows Vista on a Samsung 840 EVO for nearly 6 years now, and it still works great. Unlike your SSD, mine does support & require TRIM, but this is performed by the Samsung Magician software. Your SSD should be just fine with Windows Vista. If the SSD doesn't support TRIM in the first place, then it wouldn't make any difference if you used Windows Vista or 7/8/10, as Windows Vista supports proper partition alignment for SSDs and will do this for you automatically upon formatting the hard drive during installation. The only steps you'll need to take for the most optimal experience, and to get the most life out of your SSD would be: Disable Superfetch via services.msc. Disable Automatic Disk Defragging, by opening Disk Defragmenter and making sure the "Run on a schedule" option is unchecked. To save disk space, decrease the footprint of System Restore by following this guide here. Disable Search Indexer on the SSD by opening Computer, right click on the SSD, click Properties, and uncheck "Index this drive for faster searching" under the General tab. As long as you do these things, Windows Vista will be just fine on your SSD and the overall lifespan will be the same as it would be with Windows 7. Edited December 27, 2019 by WinClient5270 6
MrMADRYAN Posted December 27, 2019 Author Posted December 27, 2019 19 minutes ago, WinClient5270 said: I have used Windows Vista on a Samsung 840 EVO for nearly 6 years now, and it still works great. Unlike your SSD, mine does support & require TRIM, but this is performed by the Samsung Magician software. Your SSD should be just fine with Windows Vista. If the SSD doesn't support TRIM in the first place, then it wouldn't make any difference if you used Windows Vista or 7/8/10, as Windows Vista supports proper partition alignment for SSDs and will do this for you automatically upon formatting the hard drive during installation. The only steps you'll need to take for the most optimal experience, and to get the most life out of your SSD would be: Disable Superfetch via services.msc. Disable Automatic Disk Defragging, by opening Disk Defragmenter and making sure the "Run on a schedule" option is unchecked. To save disk space, decrease the footprint of System Restore by following this guide here. Disable Search Indexer on the SSD by opening Computer, right click on the SSD, click Properties, and uncheck "Index this drive for faster searching" under the General tab. As long as you do these things, Windows Vista will be just fine on your SSD and the overall lifespan will be the same as it would be with Windows 7. All right, this is more than enough information. Thank you very much!
jaclaz Posted December 27, 2019 Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) I see , it is a really old model (but SLC) that has no support for trim in the internal processor/controller. Yes, you can't do more than what WinClient5270 suggested, but it is included among the models supported by the: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/29205/Intel-Solid-State-Drive-Toolbox cdob pointed you too, so maybe it is worth the time to check what it can do. jaclaz Edited December 27, 2019 by jaclaz
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