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59 minutes ago, ArcticFoxie said:

I can signin at Citibank but it then lands on the dashboard page but it is empty - can't do anything without the dashboard page loading.

But this is something that would require an actual Citibank account to be able to witness.

TenFourFox has same issue. http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2020/02/tenfourfox-fpr20b1-available.html?showComment=1582558983611#c6159071529952102901

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  On 3/5/2020 at 12:19 PM, win32 said:

Is anyone able to load weather.cod.edu?

I haven't been able to do so for several days in New Moon or Serpent (cancels as soon as I enter it in), yet it still works in a chromium browser on my smartphone. Even setting a Chrome 80/Win10 user agent doesn't change anything.

Seems to work ok with https://o.rths.ml/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.5.win32-git-20200229-6e6ffb8-uxp-ae8eb4d4c-xpmod.7z

PS. Just realized, I'm using  User Agent Switcher extension with it. Might want to use that to handle the user agent string.

 

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I'm chalking up my problems with weather.cod.edu (as well as a couple other sites) to an issue with the new router here and Windows 2000 (NT 5.x all affected?). Maybe finding a newer TCP/IP driver from XP or 2003 will help (if compatible and XP/2003 has no issues of course).

It appears I made a mistake with some reg entries that are supposed to optimize the TCP/IP stack yet cause some undesirable effects. So routers nor the browsers are to blame for this mishap. I fixed everything by uninstalling and reinstalling the TCP/IP stack.

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Hello guys,

Sorry for the topic I'd like to raise, but it seems that PornHub stopped working on New Moon 28.8: it loads, no errors in Web Inspector console, but the videos are not played. I can see the red plugin icon in the address bar, and when I click on it, the popup initially has no text (maybe the translation xpi file error), when I click "Show all" the text labels do appear, but when I click "Allow" nothing happens.

The Adobe Flash plugin is listed on about:plugins page.

Any ideas why it is happening? I know I should use version 28.9, but there is no translation pack for Russian language, unfortunately. I can live without it of course, but anyway.

Also this thing is happening in Chrome 49 (there is also another problem on this site with some thumbnails not loading due to SSL algorithm problem caused by Win XP SSL library).

UPD: what surprised me even more is the fact that it work just fine in New Moon 27.9.6 (build 2019-03-23)

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45 minutes ago, Alex654 said:

Hello guys,

Sorry for the topic I'd like to raise, but it seems that PornHub stopped working on New Moon 28.8: it loads, no errors in Web Inspector console, but the videos are not played. I can see the red plugin icon in the address bar, and when I click on it, the popup initially has no text (maybe the translation xpi file error), when I click "Show all" the text labels do appear, but when I click "Allow" nothing happens.

The Adobe Flash plugin is listed on about:plugins page.

Any ideas why it is happening? I know I should use version 28.9, but there is no translation pack for Russian language, unfortunately. I can live without it of course, but anyway.

Also this thing is happening in Chrome 49 (there is also another problem on this site with some thumbnails not loading due to SSL algorithm problem caused by Win XP SSL library).

UPD: what surprised me even more is the fact that it work just fine in New Moon 27.9.6 (build 2019-03-23)

you may need a user-agent override for this site. put this line at the end of your pref.js:

user_pref("general.useragent.override.pornhub.com","Chrome");

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3 hours ago, roytam1 said:

you may need a user-agent override for this site. put this line at the end of your pref.js:

user_pref("general.useragent.override.pornhub.com","Chrome");

Thanks a lot! This helped me to deal with the problem (I made the string similar to the one used in version 27.9.6):

user_pref("general.useragent.override.pornhub.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:52.9) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.9 Goanna/4.4 PaleMoon/28.8.0a1");

Thought it's a shame that such big sites don't provide critical functionality when the UA string does not match expectations. The right approach is to detect the needed features.

First I thought the problem was that I had an outdated Flash Player 17, but when I installed the newest version nothing changed. So it was not the error in Flash or JavaScript, but just the result of UA check that led to "nowhere" in code, disabling any further actions.

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Thought it's a shame that such big sites don't provide critical functionality when the UA string does not match expectations. The right approach is to detect the needed features.


Uh oh.... talking of user agent strings, just had a thought that gives me cold shivers, if true - but is it??
Guess most of us here are aware that certain, extremely important websites are fully intentionally blocking certain users, for example those using old browsers or those blocking dangerous features, by either denying their pages completely or sending a crippled version only. Happy greetings for example from enforced TLS1.2 everywhere for even the most harmless public content like wikipedia etc., or crippled youtube, github and other sites.
Now recently there was that scary announcement that all major browser creators, led by Google, had happily agreed with extremely short notice, to kill the traditional, easily tweakable method of useragent data transfer, which had allowed to get most of those blocked/crippled pages delivered anyway. And they will instead replace it with a new method which is not fakeable anymore for users. Plus (IIRC) this new method will secretly deliver much more user data, about our browsers and probably systems, and no one knows what more. And the best, those user data are guaranteed to be true values. And one can expect it will be near impossible for non-experts to even realize WHAT exactly their browsers are now revealing secretly to all servers and trackers.
AND they said, this new method will actively PULL those data by "sending a request" to our browsers.
(perhaps not by a few remaining friendly sites, but today's main sites as usual, all tracking)

Now my question is:
"Request"...? How exactly?? What does that mean... involve a method like XHR perhaps? (xmlhttprequest)
Or not??
If yes, does that mean such evil sites can abuse this method now to FORCE all visitors to allow global javascript, even XHR, or otherwise their servers will just happily refuse to deliver anything, or at best just cripple pages? Finally the perfect roundabout killer for most effective security, safety and anti-tracking measures, kicking out all such 'rebellious' visitors? Not to mention freezing weaker computers?
Yeah I'm aware many sites do cripple content for noscript visitors today already by simple traditional methods, because they want or just don't care. But when that UA-Pull-Method will become standard this will happen on a whole new scale. Almost everywhere, like TLS1.2 was enforced too, and considered perfectly normal again to block anyone with older browsers (=with not the latest state-of-the-art spying features built in), without any real need.

If yes, if JS and perhaps XHR will be required (?), or perhaps an even more intrusive and dangerous new method (what a scary thought, tons of new backdoor chances!), will there be any new tricks possible to circumvent that??
Although those might be very hard to use for non-expert users?
And even if there will be such new tricks possible, they will almost certainly only be possible in the most modern browser versions too? Not possible to add by a simple addon for older browsers?
Anyone already working on that prob...?

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@siria,

Has Mozilla announced that they're going along with this? I know that by Chrome 85 they should that have in place but haven't heard about any other browsers yet. Of course, most of them are like sheep that let google run the show and set the standards so probably it's a matter of time.

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What options are available for adding external programs to a menu of the page (that is already open) and hyperlinks in Firefox, in particular New Moon? I want to open media files and YouTube pages in players such as SMPlayer or Winamp, as I can do for now in Opera. The program should receive the HTTP hyperlink as a command-line argument. This is a convenient simple function that should be in browsers. As I understand it, XUL extensions have been removed from the Firefox website.
 

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