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Hi Roy!

I'm afraid that latest New Moon Version: 27.9.7 (32-bit) (2020-02-01) breaks Troubleshooting Information (about:support) completely.
Extensions/Graphics info don't show up, 'Show Profile Folder' fearture doesn't work etc..

May you look into this issue, please.

Second, get 'Tab Mix Plus and uBO might be making New  Moon run slowly' spoiler.
What does that mean...

Big thanks to you for regulary updating the XP-builds anyway :)

Cheers,

bernd

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1 hour ago, Vistapocalypse said:

I generally click the option to "continue with adblocker" or "continue without supporting us"

not all sites will allow you to do that. most times you get stuck until you disable ADB and refresh the page (F5)

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6 minutes ago, caliber said:

not all sites will allow you to do that. most times you get stuck until you disable ADB and refresh the page (F5)

That has not been my experience - and if you use a different ad blocker, then why are you arguing with me? Concentrate on your own issues please.

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On 2/1/2020 at 4:01 PM, Vistapocalypse said:

Sounds like VistaLover may have to post again

Though a faithful uB0 user since its infancy, I don't consider myself an authority on it; besides, many other people here use it as their main adblocker, this is an open/public forum, everyone else (besides me) is invited to chime in and give a helping hand to those that might need it... 

On 2/1/2020 at 6:30 AM, caliber said:

I askem him @VistaLover what's going on but did not get any response unfortunately.

My dear friend (and this is not meant strictly at you :) ), I, as much as the rest of the members here trying to offer solutions to other people's predicaments, post on a voluntary basis and to the extent other personal engagements (RL and digital one!) permit ;) ; I'm not running a helpdesk service here, please acknowledge that, people :); thank you all in advance!

On 2/1/2020 at 6:30 AM, caliber said:

I use the ublock origin to be more specific.

I have recently downloaded the latest version from github but I don't know why it gets automatically upgraded to 1.17.4 version

Which browser is this happening on? I have to guess by a process of elimination, why are you being stingy in providing more details?

FWIW, recent St52 builds do not connect any more on AMO to check for extension updates (and uB0 is not present in http://addons.basilisk-browser.org/ that is being checked); if one is at version 1.17.4[WE], then export all its current settings to a file, uninstall it, restart the browser and then install the latest legacy version from GitHub (1.16.4.16); import back your settings from the previously stored file...

As for FxESR 52 and St55, these two browsers do still check for installed extensions updates on AMO; it is unfortunate that both the legacy and WE versions of uB0 have the same extension ID, so the XUL version gets updated automatically to the compatible WE iteration of it... :( ; but this is a known issue in these forums ;), it has been reported and described in the previous thread and solutions offered by several people, including both yours truly and @Mathwiz ...

If you want to stick with 1.17.4[WE], then, for the WP site to work, apply the "fix" I already posted some posts above (which you appear to have disregarded :angry: : enable service workers! )

If you want to revert to the XUL (legacy) version of uB0, do as instructed for St52 - but make sure to first install the companion extension offered by @JustOff (a member of MCP and the Waterfox team):

https://github.com/JustOff/ublock0-updater/releases/tag/1.6.9

This extension accomplishes two things:
1. Blocks update checks on AMO, thus preventing the unwanted update to the WE version
2. Directs update checks on the GitHub repo of the legacy version, making sure you get the latest legacy version; GitHub have a tendency of messing with this addon (by changing GitHub pages' source code ), so make sure you have that addon at its latest version, to be able to get the latest version of uB0-legacy.

Then, for the WP site to work, you don't have to touch the service workers browser pref, the legacy version works out of the box!

ADVICE to all: Your browser does have a bookmark feature, please use it to bookmark this post or any other one in this (long) thread you feel you might revisit later...

On 2/1/2020 at 6:30 AM, caliber said:

ADB PLus is easily trackable and many sites do tell you do switch it off whereas uBlock origin is almost undetectable in the same sites.

My experience, based on using uB0 for many years, is that no adblocker is immune to detection, especially in recent years when advertisers and independent companies have developed dedicated anti-adblock solutions that are sold to webmasters :angry: ; it's a cat and mouse game really; uB0 offers an Adblock Warning Removal native filter list that you should enable, but, sadly, it's not enough :realmad:

Several other specialised adblockers have been created to combat the recent anti-adblock scripts (e.g. Nano Defender), but sadly, these come only as versions compatible with latest Mozilla Firefox and Google Chrome...

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1 hour ago, bernd said:

I'm afraid that latest New Moon Version: 27.9.7 (32-bit) (2020-02-01) breaks Troubleshooting Information (about:support) completely.
Extensions/Graphics info don't show up, 'Show Profile Folder' fearture doesn't work etc..

May you look into this issue, please.

Can confirm :angry:; about:support is mostly kaput:

p66L5xh.jpg

The fact is upstream develop on Australis, while original Tycho is pre-Australis (just a guess of mine, hadn't taken the time to investigate further, as I've weaned myself from Tycho... ;) )

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7 hours ago, bernd said:

New Moon Version: 27.9.7 (32-bit) (2020-02-01) breaks Troubleshooting Information (about:support) completely.
Extensions/Graphics info don't show up, 'Show Profile Folder' fearture doesn't work etc..

fixed, try redownloading archive

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23 hours ago, Vistapocalypse said:

That has not been my experience - and if you use a different ad blocker, then why are you arguing with me?

we are talking about ADB plus right ?

if you have never experienced that it's because you only visit a few internet sites

everybody else in this forum knows that in some sites you are bound to disable adblock

while other sites just show a warning message and let you click the ''accept'' button to conitue using it with adblock enabled.

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16 hours ago, roytam1 said:

fixed, try redownloading archive

Can confirm, new build based on

toolkit: restore ResetProfile.jsm to previous state, fix about:support

(so, in reality, new archive is more properly described by the filename
palemoon-27.9.7.win32-git-20200202-aafa3ce17-xpmod.7z)

Many thanks for the swift fix, highly appreciated! :thumbup :wub:

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5 hours ago, VistaLover said:

(so, in reality, new archive is more properly described by the filename
palemoon-27.9.7.win32-git-20200202-aafa3ce17-xpmod.7z)

Many thanks for the swift fix, highly appreciated! :thumbup :wub:

@roytam1 : Admittedly, I'm not closely following development on your palemoon27 branch (NM27 builds are only occasionally used here for testing ;) ), but could you be so kind as to let me know why the latest NM27 build has a native SSUAO for github.com that advertises it as a mobile phone?

general.useragent.override.github.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Mobile; Nokia_8110_4G; rv:48.0) Gecko/48.0 Firefox/48.0 KAIOS/2.5

:dubbio:

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Just to make people aware— my site has been down for a couple days and will continue to be for a few more. Gone are the “dark ages” of my unofficial browser installer needing my server to work, but if you try to download my installer and discover the link is broken, that is why. I will post another update when it is back online.

:)

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On 2/3/2020 at 12:32 AM, VistaLover said:

Can confirm, new build based on

toolkit: restore ResetProfile.jsm to previous state, fix about:support

(so, in reality, new archive is more properly described by the filename
palemoon-27.9.7.win32-git-20200202-aafa3ce17-xpmod.7z)

Many thanks for the swift fix, highly appreciated! :thumbup :wub:

because the archives were updated by hand, not going through a build/compile process.

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As I have recently set up a triple computer set up in order to test my upcoming new version of the UOC Patch, I wanted to test New Moon 26.5 on an Asus L3000D, a laptop from 2002 sporting an Athlon XP 2500+, 1.2GB of DDRAM 400, a SiS Real256 IGP and running the good old XP SP3.

Now, to the field test. I have tested New Moon 27 which is quite usable, although video performance is nothing particularly remarkable. The UOC Patch improves it quite a lot, making web browsing doable. Serpent IA32 runs faster than NM27, but loading pages consumes a lot of CPU cycles. K-Meleon Goanna is pretty much in between, faster than NM27 and Serpent IA32, and faster loading times, less strain on the CPU. I'm using New Moon 27 alongside Serpent as browsers there.

Now, to the interesting part. I wanted to try New Moon 26.5, to see how it would perform on such a dated laptop, and interestingly, video performance is great: scrolling is incredibly smooth and fast, as if I am using Internet Explorer, but it has a huge drawback that prevents me to use such a browser on that computer: loading pages causes the browser to freeze for around 30 seconds. If I load a page with externally hosted pictures, no hope: the browser freezes altogether and I have to terminate it from the Task Manager.

Any hope to fix the issue? It would be a perfect browser for old laptops, especially because it seems to run fast and smooth on old low end IGPs. I can replicate the issue on the RDD and the new μRDD, an Asus EeePC 4G. @roytam1

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23 minutes ago, looking4awayout said:

As I have recently set up a triple computer set up in order to test my upcoming new version of the UOC Patch, I wanted to test New Moon 26.5 on an Asus L3000D, a laptop from 2002 sporting an Athlon XP 2500+, 1.2GB of DDRAM 400, a SiS Real256 IGP and running the good old XP SP3.

Now, to the field test. I have tested New Moon 27 which is quite usable, although video performance is nothing particularly remarkable. The UOC Patch improves it quite a lot, making web browsing doable. Serpent IA32 runs faster than NM27, but loading pages consumes a lot of CPU cycles. K-Meleon Goanna is pretty much in between, faster than NM27 and Serpent IA32, and faster loading times, less strain on the CPU. I'm using New Moon 27 alongside Serpent as browsers there.

Now, to the interesting part. I wanted to try New Moon 26.5, to see how it would perform on such a dated laptop, and interestingly, video performance is great: scrolling is incredibly smooth and fast, as if I am using Internet Explorer, but it has a huge drawback that prevents me to use such a browser on that computer: loading pages causes the browser to freeze for around 30 seconds. If I load a page with externally hosted pictures, no hope: the browser freezes altogether and I have to terminate it from the Task Manager.

Any hope to fix the issue? It would be a perfect browser for old laptops, especially because it seems to run fast and smooth on old low end IGPs. @roytam1

since I don't have bare metal running such config for enabling hardware acceleration, I can't really test that.

for default config, NM26 is working quite well.

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