ruthan Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) Hello, i started to experimenting with NT4 but i missing device manager from Win95/98+ is there any way how to use it, or some 3rd party replacement? Edited March 24, 2019 by ruthan
Tommy Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 I really don't know if there's a 3rd party replacement, but I do know for a fact that Windows NT4 lacked a device manager straight from the factory. You literally have to go into the places you want to install drivers to via control panel i.e. sound and multimedia for sound drivers, display for video drivers, etc.
roytam1 Posted March 22, 2019 Posted March 22, 2019 On 3/21/2019 at 1:40 AM, Tommy said: Windows NT4 lacked a device manager straight from the factory. because it is unnecessarily since NT4 is not a PnP-aware OS.
Tommy Posted March 23, 2019 Posted March 23, 2019 23 hours ago, roytam1 said: because it is unnecessarily since NT4 is not a PnP-aware OS. Yep, you're right on that one. It didn't even come with USB support at all, none of the versions did that I know of, but I do think unofficial USB drivers exist somewhere.
roytam1 Posted March 23, 2019 Posted March 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Tommy said: I do think unofficial USB drivers exist somewhere. yeah it does. check this out: http://www.bearwindows.boot-land.net/winnt4.htm#p7 1
ruthan Posted March 24, 2019 Author Posted March 24, 2019 I tried someone gaming on Win NT4 i know that is not primary designed for that, but im curious which games worked and how bad it was?
win32 Posted March 24, 2019 Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) NT4 supports up to DirectX 3 officially, and unofficially DX5 (?), as well as Glide/OpenGL. It can also run at least DOSBox 0.72. I think 0.74-2 is possible if the Windows Desktop Update (IE4+ shell) is installed. Best results will be with 2D early win32 games; I have played SimCity 2000 for Windows 95 and Microsoft Pinball Arcade successfully. Quake also works on NT4. I just set it up on my ThinkPad T41 and it runs very smoothly; only matched by Windows 2000 and far more stable than 9x. For specific games, here's a very-detailed Windows game compatibility list: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9ZuEpGojQ-JTldJdnFlZUdLamc/view Edited March 24, 2019 by win32
Destro Posted March 24, 2019 Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) 9x runs very stable on my T41. T41 a stable machine. Then again I used 98se + Sp3 + 98se2Me + Revolutions pack 9. So that makes 9x very stable. Anyways T41 has full driver support on 9x and Nt4 probably not any. Edited March 24, 2019 by Destro
win32 Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 Actually a full slate of drivers is available for NT4: https://thinkpads.com/support/Thinkpad-Drivers/download.lenovo.com/lenovo/content/ddfm/T41.html Along with 9x, it even has a driver for the hardware MIDI synth, which 2000/XP doesn't have. I did run a similar 98SE configuration, except for 98SE2ME. It did run well but I had issues when loading a great deal of fonts (Office 2000 + CorelDraw) with the shell really slowing down (I didn't bother with 98lite) and would BSOD when dealing with some of my older scratched-up DVD-Rs, whilst win2k remained stable in both cases. I'll probably put 98SE (with 98SE2ME and 98lite) and win2k back on there in addition to NT4.
Destro Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 i see well I copeied all the fonts from my windows 7 x64 computer to 98se on t41 and it worked just fine for me so idk.
bearwindows Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 Here is my "device managers" based on MS SetupAPI and Configuration Manager API. works with win95-98-me, winnt4, win2000, xp, 2003 and newer (mfcex3.exe works with nt 3.51) As for PNP in NT4 - if PNPISA driver installed and you have PNP ISA card detected some semi-PNP is working. requires cfgmgr32.dll setupapi.dll in windows/system(system32). setupapi.7z
ruthan Posted March 31 Author Posted March 31 I know its 6 years, but i finally tested these more.. These are nice but removing some devices, si not working and i also missing classic HardwareID - i info to ease searching for drivers. I managed to remove drivers through registry in live OS, so it would be nice to add it too On similar topic, i have some Creative Audigy SB090 drivers, which from some reason could not be installed by pointing Multimedia - add Device wizard, something wrong with *.inf file, so only installation through *.exe is working and lots of bloatware is added to machine. i have problem that these drivers working only right after install before rebooting, and not after reboot so i would like to install bare drivers if possible. If remove them reinstall them, its again working only without reboot.. I created thread for it here:
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