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2 hours ago, Dylan Cruz said:

Interestingly, 955430 is already in SP2, and SP2 ISO works fine, but this one causes issues when integrated apparently.

Looks like you are quite correct. If that was included in Download links for all Vista SP2 32-bit and 64-bit updates from Windows Update, then by all means post there to alert others.,

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13 minutes ago, Vistapocalypse said:

Looks like you are quite correct. If that was included in Download links for all Vista SP2 32-bit and 64-bit updates from Windows Update, then by all means post there to alert others.,

It probably was, and I did download those links, too, but I didn't use them.

I used WSUS Offline to download all Vista updates, and then I downloaded the Ultimate Extras updates using those links (but nothing else).

I also downloaded the greenhill 2008 archive, but I'm not even to that point yet.

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22 hours ago, Vistapocalypse said:

Might be an imperfection in the list of updates you're going by then. Gee, you could've got those via Windows Update a lot easier.

@Jody Thornton @Vistapocalypse

OK, so I've tried using vLite 5 times and it has failed every time.

It has taken probably 30 hours to generate these 5 ISOs and none of them have worked. Either vLite is trash or something weird is going on here.

This last time around, I tried only slipstreaming all updates from SP2 through EOS in 2007 (so 2009-2017). I get a 5.7 GB ISO, and when I try testing it using VirtualBox, as soon as click Install and next, I get the same error about Install.wim that I've been getting every time. But I've been deselecting updates that triggered errors in vLite before, so I'm not getting any other errors besides that one when I try installing (and the this ISO is greater than 4.7 GB in vLite...)

At this point, I really don't know what to do.

Manually installing 11 years of updates post-install is just not viable every time. I don't have the time or patience to go through that, whether through Windows Update or even installing offline updates. It seems like like it or not, I'm being forced to go with Windows 7 if I can't find some other fix.

I did just try running vLite to create any ISO w/o doing any modifications. That creates a good ISO (same as before, in all likelihood), but that doesn't get me anywhere. Trying this with the zillions of permutations of Vista updates from 2009-2017 is also not doable.

Any ideas anyone?

Thanks!

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Found another program called Vista Update Integrator but had issues here, too.

I think I'm going to have to do it without any 3rd-party tools.

Is there a procedure that can be used to get all the updates installed and then generalize the install.wim file back into the ISO?

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@Jody Thornton

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I've been (in the background) the past few weeks methodically testing vLite installations by narrowing down the permutations,

In the end, I have been able to determine with complete certainity which updates are slipstreamable and which are not.

Here are my findings. It took more than 29 test ISOs to get to this point (I didn't start counting until maybe a dozen in), so hopefully this will spare others the trouble:

UPDATES YOU CAN SLIPSTREAM:

Notice how after some point in April 2016, updates can no longer be slipstreamed. Every single update after that fails. Except for the Internet Explorer 9 "update" it seems (don't actually know if it works though).

Also, Ultimate Updates can NOT be slipstreamed.

Didn't try any 2008 Server updates, but I'm guessing they would also fail.

Any ideas as to why? My only idea is perhaps updates were signed in some special way starting in 2016 so they can't be integrated into a SP2 ISO?

Anyways, here you go... if you use vLite to slipstream, this gives you an Ultimate x64 ISO that is 4.31 GB (from the vanilla SP2 AIO ISO):

 Volume in drive E is New Volume
 Volume Serial Number is 6463-C6AF

 Directory of E:\glb\GOOD

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Sounds good.

>My only idea is perhaps updates were signed in some special way starting in 2016 so they can't be integrated into a SP2 ISO?

I don't believe that there were any signing changes for Windows Updates until 2019 though (when they became SHA-2 only). The change to update rollups was only for W7 and up.

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3 hours ago, win32 said:

Sounds good.

>My only idea is perhaps updates were signed in some special way starting in 2016 so they can't be integrated into a SP2 ISO?

I don't believe that there were any signing changes for Windows Updates until 2019 though (when they became SHA-2 only). The change to update rollups was only for W7 and up.

@win32

Well, I can't figure it out then. Any ideas why updates suddenly started failing when they did?

I'm sure they can be manually installed so comparability can't be the reason.

In any case, what's the best/easiest way to "slipstream" the rest of the updates, considering that I... can't?

I want an ISO that's up to date through 2020, with the Ultimate Extras, but I've only gotten as far as mid-2016 with no Ultimate Extras.

Not sure if it's easier to mess with scripts, or use DISM imagex, or what...

Also, the stupid IE9 update didn't work. I've still got IE7! Ga!

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@Dylan Cruz

It can be done with sysprep. I installed vista Home Premium x64 to a spare partition .

I had already integrated about 140 updates integrated into the install.wim ( not as many as your list above).

Then ran the 4 speedup updates. Got the rest of the updates from WU, including the first mse it offerred which is vesion 4.4.304 - the thing I left out was live essentials 2011.

Then downloaded and installed net framework 6.2.1:

NDP462-KB3151800-x86-x64-AllOS-ENU.exe, KB4474419 for sha-2  and  net frame 6.2.1 update ndp46-kb4495587-x64.exe.

Booted into win7 on another partition and used dism++ to clean the vista partition ( it removes several gb from winsxs, etc).

Boot back into vista, run syprep to boot into audit mode. Once in audit mode, delete the previous user account and oobe generalize.

Then capture the vista partition using wimlib with lzx compression and a wimscript.ini. The wim is 3.25gb on disk.

The wim is up to date to EOL, plus netframe 6.2.1 and it can use the MSE updates

 

 

 

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On 4/12/2020 at 9:12 AM, SIW2 said:

That is truly awesome to hear @SIW2

I know you can't share the ISO, but is there any way you could share a step-by-step guide of this?

I think yours is probably the best way to do this!

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