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risk_reversal

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Hi,

Not sure this belongs in this in this section but here goes.

I recently ran into an issue in aligning my new SSD drive. The problem revolved around moving
and growing partitions which resulted in boot errors.

I managed to resolve the problem but wanted to make sure that my solution was sound
so that I could rely on it in the future.

To this end I was wondering if I detailed what I did whether someone very much more
knowledgeable could offer some advice.
 
I received a new SSD drive to upgrade my current HDD (non ssd).

I cloned all the partitions with Clonezilla, the partitions are in the following
order: XP, Win 7 and a data partition.

Everything went ok and I could boot into both o/s from the SSD.

I then proceeded to check the alignment of the SSD drive which showed that the SSD was not aligned
correctly (in System Properties).

I used GParted (have used it before) to move the partitions as per this article.

http://blog.eracks.com/2012/08/proper-alignment-of-your-ssd-using-gparted-open-source-software/comment-page-1/

However, upon trying to boot into XP, I got the following message (as per screenshot).

IMG-20180319-00515_forium.jpg.f5d3c8b5506e8b37fe5a0e4d55bafea9.jpg

Win 7 would not boot either

At this point I did try to use the recovery console on XP and Win 7 but will skip detailling
this for now.

I then decided to move the partitions back to where they were before.

XP booted ok but with Win 7 I needed to use the recovery disc method to fix it.  

In any case at this point both o/s partitions were booting fine.

I read through several posts and some were advocating the use of Mini Tool Partition Wizard (free).

I downloaded this tool and installed it on XP.

I proceeded to open the software and align the XP (1st partition) which it did correctly.

Mini Tool Partition Wizard said that the Win 7 did not require alignment.

There were no issues booting to XP or Win 7 after using Mini Parttion Tool Wizard..

I also used Mini Tool Partition Wizard to test and move the Win 7 partition along the disc, which it
did correctly and again there were no booting issues. It moved Win 7 within XP ie no reboot.

So any reason why Gparted is giving boot errors when I try to align / move partitions?

Should I just be using Mini Tool Partition Wizard as it seems to work? Was this the better way.

Not sure what to make of it as I have read many post about users who run into boot problems
when they resize their partitions especially if they dual boot XP and Win 7

As I said at the beginning of my post I wanted to make sure that what I did was correct, for
future use.

Sorry for long post and many thanks for any info provided

Cheers
 

Edited by risk_reversal

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Posted (edited)

Is it MBR?

Get Beeblebrox:

https://web.archive.org/web/20090225081908/https://students.cs.byu.edu/~codyb/

It should work fine on XP, but depending on a number of factors it may not, or another tool, like - still say - dmde:

https://dmde.com/

or *any* other tool that:

1) can access the physicaldrive
2) shows the partition table

Check this image:

IBM_X61s.jpg

the "old" alignment was based on cylinder/heads, ultimately it resolved to LBA offsets of 63 or multiples (the StartSector field in the above).

The "new" alignment (that is what you actually want for a SSD) is obtained with LBA offsets of 2048[1] or multiples. 

A word of warning :ph34r:, If you have any logical volume inside extended you should NEVER, and I mean NEVER use the Disk Manager of Windows XP to change ANYTHING on the disk, see:

http://reboot.pro/topic/9897-vistawin7-versus-xp-partitioning-issue/

 jaclaz

[1] strictly speaking this is not accurate, the point is having on SSD's multiples of 4KB, i.e. 8 sectors, but MS decided to default to 1 MB, i.e. 2048*512.

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2 hours ago, jaclaz said:

Is it MBR?

Yes.

2 hours ago, jaclaz said:

Get Beeblebrox:

https://web.archive.org/web/20090225081908/https://students.cs.byu.edu/~codyb/

It should work fine on XP, but depending on a number of factors it may not, or another tool, like - still say - dmde:

https://dmde.com/

or *any* other tool that:

1) can access the physical drive
2) shows the partition table

Thanks. I will download them and have a play. Since I am testing at least I can break anything !

2 hours ago, jaclaz said:

A word of warning :ph34r:, If you have any logical volume inside extended you should NEVER, and I mean NEVER use the Disk Manager of Windows XP to change ANYTHING on the disk, see:

http://reboot.pro/topic/9897-vistawin7-versus-xp-partitioning-issue/

I have never used the XP Disk Manager. Only GParted and BootIt.

Cheers

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