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roytam1

My build of New Moon (temp. name) a.k.a. Pale Moon fork targetting XP

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A newbie to this site,although have been following this thread for some time now..I am currently running NewMoon ver.28.5.0a1 -32 bit on xp....A question I have is when new updates are posted byRoy...When the updates are posted under the heading “Test Binary”..are these stable versions or are they considered as betas?...One other thing I would like to mention..I am writing this from my Ipad...because for the life of me I can not figure out how to correctly send a post from my desktop computer...Only ad blocker I have on it isNoScript whichI disable when on MSFN..Where a message appears to reply for writing your post,nothing happens!!....Hope this is understood.

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Mathwiz said:

but Waterfox is just now adding support.
...
if Waterfox had been UXP-based, it would already have had that support. I'm guessing that Waterfox was forked from FF 56, the last version with any XUL add-on support, and "bootstrapped" extension support had already been removed from FF 56, and now Waterfox is putting it back in.

... Not quite :rolleyes:; "bootstrap" is just one category of "legacy" (i.e. non-WE) extensions, along with XPCOM, XUL overlay and jetpack; as such, they were indeed supported in Firefox 56.0.2 (last version with "legacy" support) and are still supported in latest Waterfox 56.2.9 ; what Jody wrote was actually:

22 hours ago, Jody Thornton said:

as for the new Alpha release of Waterfox v68, Photon, WebExtensions and Bootstrapped Add-Ons will be embraced.

meaning that Waterfox v68α is Quantum based and will have the Photon GUI and WE support native to Quantum, but the Waterfox developer (Alex Kontos, of Greek descent) has somehow (?) managed to port to it "bootstrapped extensions" support... :dubbio:

[ IIRC, early versions of Firefox Quantum, 57-58, especially in the Nightly and Developer/Beta branches, were able to support (at varying degree) classic  extensions via flipping a pref (extensions.legacy.enabled); more here; as Quantum matured to > 58.0 version numbers, "legacy" extension APIs were eradicated to the point that pref, where still present, had no actual effect... ]

Edited by VistaLover

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33 minutes ago, VistaLover said:

meaning that Waterfox v68α is Quantum based and will have the Photon GUI and WE support native to Quantum, but the Waterfox developer (Alex Kontos, of Greek descent) has somehow (?) managed to port to it "bootstrapped extensions" support... :dubbio:

Does this mean that things like Classic Theme Restorer will work?

I ask because I really like it because it makes Firefox (and, by extension, Waterfox and any fork based on FF => 3x.x) resemble a somewhat modernized version of the Firefox 24.x UI, before the Australlis UI, which I'm not super fond of, was introduced.

That being said, I'm not very fond of Photon (is this the name of the new UI introduced with 57.x?), either. The custom CSS scripts made by the creator of CTR helps, but it's not the same, and customization, compared to earlier versions, is virtually nil. Also don't like the flat look (FF 56 and earlier have a subtle gradient in the toolbars, tabs, and (in macOS), the menu bar). Again the custom CSS helps, but it's not the same.

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@cc333, the UI name is Photon.  See I think Photon represents the flat look version of a classic browser..  I have mine set with tabs below the address bar (using usrChrome.css) and it goes sooooo well with Windows 8.

 

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41 minutes ago, cc333 said:

Does this mean that things like Classic Theme Restorer will work?

Probably not... CTR itself as an extension targets the Australis GUI (Firefox 29-56), not Photon (Firefox >=57.0); I believe updated versions of CustomCSSforFx should be applicable in the Photon iteration of Waterfox 68.0a, but any such talk is still very premature...

In any case, Waterfox discussion, methinks, should be continued in a more "appropriate" forum, seeing that the browser requires at least Windows 7 64-bit... :(

Edited by VistaLover

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4 hours ago, henry18th said:

When the updates are posted under the heading “Test Binary”..are these stable versions or are they considered as betas?

My understanding is they are betas or something similar to nightlies pending the release of an updated version. I am not exactly sure but the last official Basilisk release may have been in March?? Again not positive but eventually there will be a new one minus Roy's changes to work with XP.   

Edited by DanR20

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4 hours ago, henry18th said:

I am currently running NewMoon ver.28.5.0a1 -32 bit on xp....A question I have is when new updates are posted byRoy...When the updates are posted under the heading “Test Binary”..are these stable versions or are they considered as betas?

Hello and welcome to the forums :)

Technically speaking, @roytam1's New Moon 28 builds are being compiled from source snapshots derived from the master branch of the upstream UXP (= the application platform) repository:

https://github.com/MoonchildProductions/UXP/commits/master

This is, more-or-less, similar with

https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/master

which gets synced with upstream before new binaries compilation...

The exact source code from which the binaries are being compiled is best represented by the "custom" branch:

https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

which is official UXP + Roy's own changes...

Given that the UXP master branch is being used for the compilation of the official Pale Moon "unstable" builds,

https://www.palemoon.org/unstable/

simply put, New Moon releases are just forks of the official unstable Pale Moon update channel!

But don't let the term "unstable" intimidate you one bit; Moonchild advises:

Quote

Make sure you make regular backups of your Pale Moon profile as unstable versions may occasionally cause data loss.

so, to be on the safe side, just back-up your New Moon profile prior to updating your build (so you can restore it if something goes awry with the new build; you can always re-download a previous NM build from Roy's repository :)); basically, just watch this thread and if something is broken with the release of a new NM28 build, it'll be reported and either fixed quickly via a re-issued build, or the "bug" will be properly addressed in the coming weekend's release... :P Personally, I've been using NM28 builds for many months, never have I suffered any data loss!

5 hours ago, henry18th said:

I can not figure out how to correctly send a post from my desktop computer...Only ad blocker I have on it is NoScript which I disable when on MSFN..Where a message appears to reply for writing your post,nothing happens!!

I have no issue whatsoever with New Moon 28.5.0a1 while using the forum's post editor to submit/edit posts; but I'm not using No Script either... Adblocker used here is the "legacy" edition of uBlock Origin by gorhill, which works optimally with New Moon!
No Script isn't just an adblocker but a more potent content-blocker, which has known issues with official Pale Moon and is not endorsed/recommended by Moonchild:

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=19110

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?p=140965#p140965

Dedicated thread: https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=19119

However, I understand several members here do use it with NM28, so perhaps it's them that should advise you better on how to tailor its settings to best accommodate the forum's post editor... ;)

Sometimes, it's not enough to simply disable No Script on a site for its effect to go away; you may have to temporarily disable the extension in about:addons and restart the browser or, even, have to uninstall it completely to test things; I would start by creating a new clean New Moon 28 profile and test there how the forum behaves; often times, the cause of issues is No Script conflicts with other(s) installed extension(s); you have to troubleshoot this yourself...

Best greetings :)

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Posted (edited)
On 12/2/2018 at 8:08 PM, roytam1 said:

you have to add section to install.rdf in order to install in borealis:


    <em:targetApplication>
      <Description>
        <em:id>{a3210b97-8e8a-4737-9aa0-aa0e607640b9}</em:id>
        <em:minVersion>1.0.0a1</em:minVersion>
        <em:maxVersion>1.0.0a1</em:maxVersion>
      </Description>
    </em:targetApplication>

EDIT: you may need to add(copy seamonkey-related entries, paste, and modify) entries in chrome.manifest. for example in foxyproxy standard:

copy:


# SeaMonkey
skin    foxyproxy classic/1.0 chrome/skin/
## Browser window
overlay chrome://navigator/content/navigator.xul  chrome://foxyproxy/content/firefoxOverlay.xul application={92650c4d-4b8e-4d2a-b7eb-24ecf4f6b63a}
style chrome://global/content/customizeToolbar.xul  chrome://foxyproxy/content/foxyproxy.css application={92650c4d-4b8e-4d2a-b7eb-24ecf4f6b63a}
## Messenger window
overlay chrome://messenger/content/messenger.xul  chrome://foxyproxy/content/tbirdOverlay.xul application={92650c4d-4b8e-4d2a-b7eb-24ecf4f6b63a}
style chrome://messenger/content/messenger.xul  chrome://foxyproxy/content/foxyproxy.css  application={92650c4d-4b8e-4d2a-b7eb-24ecf4f6b63a}

and change application id to {a3210b97-8e8a-4737-9aa0-aa0e607640b9} and append next to seamonkey block, save the file and update xpi archive.

updated bnavigator extension hacking guide.

Edited by roytam1
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Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, roytam1 said:

updated bnavigator extension hacking guide.

Got a question. Do you have any idea if serpent will run under WINE using  XP/Win7 emulation? Being a WinXP program it should run without problems right? Tried the linux port of Basilisk and really don't care for it.

 

 

 

Edited by c.lee

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38 minutes ago, c.lee said:

Got a question. Do you have any idea if serpent will run under WINE using  XP/Win7 emulation? Being a WinXP program it should run without problems right? Tried the linux port of Basilisk and really don't care for it.

None. Why don't you actually try it, instead of asking? :angel

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forum very strange behaviour. had to reset login but no message coming. then i went back and i was logged in on page 137 here. when i go back to 136 i am signed out. want to add important informations. about video. so i will make it here:

True for Winxp-SSE.

video html 5

https://addons.palemoon.org/addon/html5-video-tuner/ alle formate bei SSE unterstützt!/all formats supported in SSE-PCs.
-----------------
https://www.downfk.com/   (onlineFACEBOOKvideodownloader)
https://www.downfk.com/private-downloader.php chrome addon

https://www.onlinevideoconverter.com/youtube-converter
UPDATE: login problem gone, video html5 news INTEGRATED in my "STICKY" on P136.

Edited by 3dreal
Login-problem gone, news integrated in my "STICKY" on P136

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39 minutes ago, Dibya said:

Anyone can help me please ?

I am trying to build latest LAV filters for newmoon 27 .

This bloody script is not running , I have latest visual studio 2017 , installed and tried with msys even

 

https://github.com/Nevcairiel/LAVFilters/blob/master/build_ffmpeg_msvc.sh

 

 

 

I am using the old method again of executing LAVfilters. since i have pretty old MOBO this version will do:
LAVFilters-0.69-x86
lavfilters old
https://www.videohelp.com/software/LAV-Filters/old-versions
if there are videoproblems e.g. playing in Windows Mediaplayer it maybe be a complex situation related to ffdshow, DivX(/Xvid), MP4-splitter and FLV-Splitter and more
so we need to know what problem you have.  Mov-files not playing, videos not playing at all or only certain types?
i had huge problems after defragging partition containing Video-and audio-files.  sometimes the same issue coming even without defragging which is adviced.  or seperating video/audio from other stuff.
the only issue i have not showing icons anymore on most videos. MPEG-4

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Dibya said:

Anyone can help me please ?

I am trying to build latest LAV filters for newmoon 27 .

This bloody script is not running , I have latest visual studio 2017 , installed and tried with msys even

 

https://github.com/Nevcairiel/LAVFilters/blob/master/build_ffmpeg_msvc.sh

 

you have to recompile 3rd party libraries provided by Nevcairiel with v141_xp since he provides .lib libraries that is not compiled with v141_xp. And those libraries may need to hack around to make new windows API out of them, as well as ffmpeg.

Edited by roytam1

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