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I'm sure the case will be fitted with plenty of fans!
Thanks for the clarification about the expansion slots, still strange you can't see them in your picture though!
Cheers, Dave.
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Been using this browser for a while recently have found two problems with using it.

 

1. After a browsing when close the Palemoon browser mod it will crash. Here are two Dr.mingw crash logs one from 11-May-2019 build and one from 24-Aug-2019 build. Dr.Mingw will produce two crash logs one immediate after the other is closed.

 

These are Palemoon SSE builds that I run on XP-SP3

Build 11-May-2019

[First Debug Window]
palemoon.exe caused an Access Violation at location 01928369 in module xul.dll Reading from location 00000000.

Registers:
eax=0012fb00 ebx=06baea01 ecx=00000001 edx=08bd029c esi=06c9f700 edi=00000000
eip=01928369 esp=0012fad0 ebp=034ad030 iopl=0         nv up ei pl nz na pe nc
cs=001b  ss=0023  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=003b  gs=0000             efl=00000202

Call stack:
01928369  xul.dll:01928369  public: virtual enum nsresult __stdcall mozilla::LoadInfo::GetBaseURI(class nsIURI * *)


[Second Debug Window]
plugin-container.exe caused a Breakpoint at location 100010bc in module mozalloc.dll.

Registers:
eax=00000000 ebx=00000001 ecx=002a0ed3 edx=00360ea8 esi=00000000 edi=00292425
eip=100010bc esp=044cf9b8 ebp=01a67b5c iopl=0         nv up ei pl nz na po nc
cs=001b  ss=0023  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=003b  gs=0000             efl=00000206

Call stack:
100010BC  mozalloc.dll:100010BC  void __cdecl mozalloc_abort(char const * const)
41202121

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Build 24-Aug-2019 (palemoon-27.9.6.win32-git-20190824-c106e1d83-xpmod-sse.7z)

[First Debug Window]

palemoon.exe caused an Access Violation at location 01928369 in module xul.dll Reading from location 00000000.

Registers:
eax=0012fb00 ebx=1367ff01 ecx=00000001 edx=034f863c esi=04a9e860 edi=00000000
eip=01928369 esp=0012fad0 ebp=034b2030 iopl=0         nv up ei pl nz na pe nc
cs=001b  ss=0023  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=003b  gs=0000             efl=00000202

Call stack:
01928369  xul.dll:01928369  public: virtual enum nsresult __stdcall mozilla::LoadInfo::GetBaseURI(class nsIURI * *)


[Second Debug Window]

plugin-container.exe caused a Breakpoint at location 100010bc in module mozalloc.dll.

Registers:
eax=00000000 ebx=00000001 ecx=002a0ed3 edx=00360ea8 esi=00000000 edi=00292425
eip=100010bc esp=044cf9b8 ebp=01a67b5c iopl=0         nv up ei pl nz na po nc
cs=001b  ss=0023  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=003b  gs=0000             efl=00000206

Call stack:
100010BC  mozalloc.dll:100010BC  void __cdecl mozalloc_abort(char const * const)
41202121

 

This bug is only present with Palemoon and seen no where else on the system.

 

 

2. With Newer Build 24-Aug-2019 (palemoon-27.9.6.win32-git-20190824-c106e1d83-xpmod-sse.7z) there is a further new issue that is not welcome at all. Something I don't need to see or be forced to view or accept via buttons. It's akin to the cookie button where we already have accepted the cookie since we cannot login with a cookie. I accepted NoScript or any other addon may affect speed when install them. Never needed to be told or reminded about that. More over not forced to view this fact forever, which won't happen will go back to older version and stay with it until it changes. If it doesn't so be it get a different browser.

Noscript might be making New Moon run slowly   [Disable NoScript]  [Ignore for now]  [Ignore permanently]   <<< This useless warning that we are forced to view always is invasion of my browser space and totally irreverent and unneeded. Don't make it further background bloat by only hiding it. This needs to be removed from the browser forever.

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2 hours ago, exogenesis said:

After a browsing when close the Palemoon browser mod it will crash

not possible to reproduce here. nm27 is still my daily browser for browsing sites that doesn't need goanna4 features, and from my testing, there is no crash at all.

 

2 hours ago, exogenesis said:

Something I don't need to see or be forced to view or accept via buttons.

please provide screenshot as I don't see any.

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Picture of the Noscript buttons that appeared with more recent NewMoon builds. These buttons appear a few seconds after NewMoon opens.

 

Reverted to test back backup that is a vanilla XP3 install same with that also. Maybe a noscript timebomb! but that doesn't seem something the NoScript developer would consider doing.

Will restor the vanilla XP3 fresh install backup test again. This time select the disable button to see if will disable. More over to see about:config changes by compare the NewMoon files.

 

The NewMoon crash when close NewMoon also happens for the same browsers as above with a test a vanilla fresh XP3 install restored from a backup image. That crash doesn't happen with every browser close but enough to notice, I guess makes these kind of crashes harder for developers to detect. That said If you have some PDB debug files for NewMoon SSE browser I could use those maybe Dr.Mingw will produce more detailed crash reports.

NS Buttons NM27.9.6.7z

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Re Goanna browser you mentioned I have seen this listed many times on your blog. But never choose as I always assumed it wouldn't work with the SSE CPU I have.

Have had a look at  http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.php?19,148500 there I have noticed the vital questions asked.

What OS and CPU requirements for the browser.

Many Windows OS versions old and new.

For any CPU that works with the many Windows OS versions old and new (MMX to newer CPUs)

 

With this information have KM76.2-Goanna-20190824.7z to try. For online video playback with lav filters that also listed (lav filters drop into the browser to use them). Like you one browser for normal browsing and one now hopefully for video if the pc is up to it.

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9 hours ago, exogenesis said:

Picture of the Noscript buttons that appeared with more recent NewMoon builds. These buttons appear a few seconds after NewMoon opens.

 

Reverted to test back backup that is a vanilla XP3 install same with that also. Maybe a noscript timebomb! but that doesn't seem something the NoScript developer would consider doing.

Will restor the vanilla XP3 fresh install backup test again. This time select the disable button to see if will disable. More over to see about:config changes by compare the NewMoon files.

 

The NewMoon crash when close NewMoon also happens for the same browsers as above with a test a vanilla fresh XP3 install restored from a backup image. That crash doesn't happen with every browser close but enough to notice, I guess makes these kind of crashes harder for developers to detect. That said If you have some PDB debug files for NewMoon SSE browser I could use those maybe Dr.Mingw will produce more detailed crash reports.

NS Buttons NM27.9.6.7z 96.77 kB · 2 downloads

alright found which commit added this: https://github.com/rmottola/Arctic-Fox/commit/f5cd276a60dcf30b9a169387879f2a4c7153e3eb

you may use [Alt]+[P] to add NoScript to ignore list to Addon Watcher so it won't ask again. also you may change browser.addon-watch.interval to -1 in about:config to disable Addon Watcher to measure slow addons.

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10 hours ago, exogenesis said:

That said If you have some PDB debug files for NewMoon SSE browser I could use those maybe Dr.Mingw will produce more detailed crash reports.

PDB files are huge (~500MB) and it is hard to put them on server every time. do you still want them?

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On 8/10/2019 at 5:57 PM, TechnoRelic said:

Is there a reason that you do NOT have Service Pack 3 (SP3) installed for your WIN XP OS ???

Added Later: @dencorso (message below) did explain it for me. To each, their own. :)

He needs SP3 and Mai 2014 Rollup explicitely otherwise endless problems. I must know since spent endless amount of time reviving old SSE-PC(this one) after capacitor-plague-problems stopped it and new ones occured. That was also my luck finding marvelous altered browsers like Palemoon 27 SSE.

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On 8/23/2019 at 7:24 PM, roytam1 said:

No new UXP build tomorrow if upstream doesn't make bigger changes.

OT: and my new rig arrived:
AMD Ryzen7 3700X 3.6-4.4Ghz 8 Cores/16 Threads AM4 7nm FinFET (100-100000071BOX) HK$2599
ASROCK B450 STEEL LEGEND HK$699.00
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200(CMK32GX4M2E3200C16)(BLACK)(w/heatsink) HK$1230
GALAX NV GTX1650 1-Click OC 4GB GDDR5 HK$1170
1TB Samsung PM981 NVMe TLC SSD HK$999
Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 750/750W Fully-Modular ATX PowerSupply 10 Years Warranty (80PLUS GOLD) HK$750

software fine tune may cause few days or even 1-2 weeks as I want to install Win7 on this.

My father has similar specs (Intel i5 2.30GHz, 32GB RAM, Intel UHD Graphics 630, 240GB SSD, Dell Precision 5530)

Edited by GlowingLights
my bad its actually a precision 5530
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So as the New Moon rises, all different computers rise to connect to the world's data net. An 18-year-old Pentium 3 can participate, too, thanks to New Moon. Thank you for this browser, a fantastic ally on Windows XP!

Does anyone remember "Opensearch" plugins? In Netscape 9.0.0.6 of 2008 for example, there are some websites, that can be directly included in the search engine toolbar. However that seem to have gotten lost in newer browsers. The Palemoon search plugins feel like a step back in that perspective, because there is only a limited selection available.

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5 hours ago, Gansangriff said:

Does anyone remember "Opensearch" plugins? In Netscape 9.0.0.6 of 2008 for example, there are some websites, that can be directly included in the search engine toolbar. However that seem to have gotten lost in newer browsers.

Check out this plugin: https://firefox.maltekraus.de/extensions/add-to-search-bar

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I have tested the new versions of Firefox 45 ESR SSE, New Moon 27 and K-Meleon 76 Goanna on the RDD and they work much better than the previous ones. Unfortunately I've been noticing that the X1950 Pro seems to struggle at accelerating Mozilla based browsers beyond 800x600, while scrolling is perfectly fine with my 6800GT. But I suspect it's an ATI driver issue, rather than a browser one. And this with Catalyst 6.12, the fastest ones for the X1950 Pro. NVidia cards are much, much better for Mozilla based browsers.

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