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My build of New Moon (temp. name) a.k.a. Pale Moon for XP

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On 8/30/2018 at 3:35 PM, caliber said:

Mozilla lost over 50 million users over the last 16 months. given that FF52 support is gone they will keep losing more users.

 

 

To read Mozilla employees on the forums they figure ending support for 52 will increase users since they will move to 60esr forcibly. We'll see but even if that doesn't happen and user share continues to fall they will defend their decision to abandon legacy addons to the bitter end.

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2 hours ago, Flame. said:

Are you sure it is still working in XP? AFAIR, it was migrated to latest Python 3 at some point...

https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/

It requires the Python interpreter (2.6, 2.7, or 3.2+), and it is not platform specific.

It's a must-have, like ffmpeg or wget.

Computing is like junk food nowadays but there's still a few very good programs and if an open source software is not compatible with you OS you have a chance to build it yourself and make it compatible again. :D

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1 hour ago, Flame. said:

it was migrated to latest Python 3

Hello :) The standalone windows executable, file youtube-dl.exe (32-bit, filesize 7.59 MiB ) has been compiled with Python 3.4.4 modules, which, AFAIK, is the last XP compatible Python version, most certainly not the latest (3.6.6/3.7.0).

On my Vista laptop, issuing "youtube-dl --version && youtube-dl -v" in the command prompt window, in my yt-dl installation directory, I get:

2018.09.01
[debug] System config: []
[debug] User config: []
[debug] Custom config: []
[debug] Command-line args: ['-v']
[debug] Encodings: locale cp1253, fs mbcs, out cp737, pref cp1253
[debug] youtube-dl version 2018.09.01
[debug] Python version 3.4.4 (CPython) - Windows-Vista-6.0.6002-SP2
[debug] exe versions: ffmpeg N-91152-g7c333dc6a7, ffprobe N-91152-g7c333dc6a7, p
hantomjs 2.1.1, rtmpdump 2.4
[debug] Proxy map: {}
Usage: youtube-dl [OPTIONS] URL [URL...]

My assessment is based on https://python.readthedocs.io/en/latest/using/windows.html#supported-versions

While the latest release of the 3.4 branch is 3,4.9, every release after 3.4.4 has been made available only as source; the last XP compatible compiled installer is for 3.4.4, to be found here ...

But even if/when in the future the yt-dl devs compile the standalone executable with non-XP compatible Python modules, all is not lost for XP users; yt-dl code has support for a variety of Python versions, methinks 2.6 to 3.7; so, an XP user can perform a full-blown Python installation on his/her system and then use the compiled zipped-executable version of yt-dl, file youtube-dl (size 1.62MB) on the GitHub Releases page... It can be invoked in the command line as

python.exe youtube-dl [various yt-dl arguments]

(you may have to use pip first to install additional python modules that yt-dl depends on, ones that do not come with the default (standard) installation on windows; but this is not a yt-dl support forum, ample info/help can be found on line already...)

@Flame :

While I spent 3 years on XP, I currently have no access to that OS (only to Vista SP2 32-bit + Win7 SP1 64-bit), so it would have been easier for you (... and me :whistle:) to get an answer to your query, had you kindly asked one of the many XP users that frequent this thread to test youtube-dl.exe for you (assuming you can't yourself...); but I didn't mind the challenge to answer it for you one single bit... :P

Regards

EDIT: @hotnuma beat me at posting, adding relevant information ;):)

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On 8/29/2018 at 7:26 PM, Jody Thornton said:

That's New Moon?

That's no moon! It's a space station!

thats-no-moon-128.png.b78d169080bb1c5239013cea568e8c72.png

Couldn't help myself, sorry. %)

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Ah, thanks for info, guys! I can't test it for the time being, unfortunately. But it's good to hear anyway. :)

My youtube downloading needs were fulfilled up until lately by the awesome 3DYD (3D Youtube Downloader), but I always kept in mind youtube-dl as a possible, albeit not overly comfortable, alternative.

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http://blog.k-tai-douga.com/
FFMPEG for Windows XP compatible LEGACY version (scroll down).

There was some recent discussion here of FFMPEG free software.

Added Later -- MSFN user CoRoNe replied with this source of WinXP FFMPEG builds:

https://msfn.org/board/topic/177125-my-build-of-new-moon-temp-name-aka-pale-moon-for-xp/?do=findComment&comment=1154072

https://rwijnsma.home.xs4all.nl/files/ffmpeg/?C=M;O=A

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21 hours ago, VistaLover said:

... Nothing of this sort here... Trying a non-protected, non-music video like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6M_vYUUx20

I can fetch without issues:

9PPQiVJ.jpg

 

W10 + Pale Moon 28 (several versions) + Moon Tester Tool + IDM = download Youtube fail

XP + New Moon 28 (several versions) + Moon Tester Tool + IDM = download Youtube fail

In the rest of the websites, IDM does catch the downloads. I do not understand it. :}

XP + New Moon 27.9.1a1 + Moon Tester Tool + IDM = download Youtube ok

XP + Mypal 27.9.4 + Moon Tester Tool + IDM = download Youtube ok

Edited by wyxchari

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On 9/1/2018 at 6:07 PM, msfn-guest123 said:

here is a nuisance i wish would get fixed

don't recall how long this "line" has been in the left menu right-arrow-accessed sub-menus

it's barely visible but once you do notice it then you can't "not" see it

(i actually fix this via Stylem but shouldn't need to 'correct' the GUI in this manner)

 

2018-09-01_17-59-31.jpg

 

anybody else seeing this "line" ???

(did not want the YouTube download discussion to "bury" the enquiry since YouTube is entirely pointless to me personally)

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24 minutes ago, msfn-guest123 said:

anybody else seeing this "line" ???

What version of New Moon do you use? I do not get it. It can be something related to the theme or that I also have it and do not see it because it is the same color as the background.

Screenshot - 03_09_2018 , 20_08_02.jpg

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16 hours ago, hotnuma said:

https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/


It requires the Python interpreter (2.6, 2.7, or 3.2+), and it is not platform specific.

 

https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html

*** Begin Quoting ***
Remember youtube-dl requires Python version 2.6, 2.7, or 3.2+ to work except for Windows exe.

Windows exe requires Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable Package (x86) and does not require Python that is already embedded into the binary.
*** End Quoting ***

So, APPARENTLY NOW it is NOT needed for YOUTUBE-DL.EXE (Windows OS) to have PYTHON installed. But instead, you need the VISUAL C++ Package specified above. Which, this is something new to me. I am CERTAIN that in the PAST that PYTHON was required for 'WIN OS' YOUTUBE-DL.EXE to work, but NOT anymore.

Just posting this so that APPARENT 'misinformation' is not said in this THREAD here. :)

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3 hours ago, wyxchari said:

What version of New Moon do you use? I do not get it. It can be something related to the theme or that I also have it and do not see it because it is the same color as the background.

Screenshot - 03_09_2018 , 20_08_02.jpg

 

you have WinXP's visual styles turned off

the DEFAULT is for this to be ON

 

please go to System Properties -> Advanced -> Performance Settings button to open "Performance Options" dialog

turn ON "Use visual styles on windows and buttons" (very bottom of the list)

 

you too will now see this "line"

this "line" should not be present under DEFAULT settings (no Pale Moon themes and WinXP default settings)

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