ruthan Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Its about MS, there should be MS DOS thread on forum main page.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I don't think that will happen. If it does, it would probably exist under the Windows 9x section as a subforum. Since very few people use DOS for anything outside of minor command necessities, it would add more clutter to an already full board. Although @xper is the one who would make the final call on this one, I'm just an Smod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98SE Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I always thought it was strange there wasn't one on MSFN. I examined the Forums. Here is where it should be added at the very bottom of the "[Microsoft Software Products]" list below "Other Microsoft Products". Added as "DOS - Disk Operating System". Since it is an official Microsoft Product it does belong to this board. Actually you could also say without DOS there wouldn't be Windows. If you need someone to super moderate that group on the side so you're not constantly moderating it maybe I can help you out. I'm a heavy DOS user most of my life so it's not going to be to hard to filter out what doesn't belong there. Also some Windows 3.X, and 9X users probably would make use of that forum so it wouldn't necessarily be a dead zone seeing 9X/ME is still pretty active here. How it will look after being added into MSFN. [Microsoft Software Products] Older Windows NT-Family OSes Windows XP Windows Vista Windows 2000/2003/NT4 Windows 9x/ME Windows 9x Member Projects Other Microsoft Products Microsoft Office 97-2016 Microsoft Beta Discussion Discuss Other Microsoft Products and Betas. DOS - Disk Operating System Discuss using IBM PC-DOS, MS-DOS and other DOS variants and related DOS software [Unattended Windows Discussion & Support] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 So, under "[Microsoft Software Products]" we should put IBM PC-DOS, DR-DOS and possibly FreeDOS? Interesting classification proposal. just in case I do miss a CP/M section, but particularly an OS/2 section, you could also say without OS/2 there wouldn't be Windows. jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruthan Posted September 2, 2017 Author Share Posted September 2, 2017 It should be at same level and other Windows section, its definitely at least so frequent and interesting as Windows Vista or Windows 8. There lots people which still care about Dos are ready to donate if there will find nice place to disscuss it, know when you searchs Dos you are getting Vogons site and when you quick check this forum, you see not Dos, you going elsewhere.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98SE Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, jaclaz said: So, under "[Microsoft Software Products]" we should put IBM PC-DOS, DR-DOS and possibly FreeDOS? Interesting classification proposal. just in case I do miss a CP/M section, but particularly an OS/2 section, you could also say without OS/2 there wouldn't be Windows. jaclaz No read what I wrote: How it will look after being added into MSFN. [Microsoft Software Products] Older Windows NT-Family OSes Windows XP Windows Vista Windows 2000/2003/NT4 Windows 9x/ME Windows 9x Member Projects Other Microsoft Products Microsoft Office 97-2016 Microsoft Beta Discussion Discuss Other Microsoft Products and Betas. DOS - Disk Operating System <--- This is the subforum just as "Windows 9x/ME" is the subforum of "[Microsoft Software Products]" Discuss using IBM PC-DOS, MS-DOS and other DOS variants and related DOS software <--- This is the description of the subforum "DOS" or "D.O.S. - Disk Operating System" to be more descriptive (in case someone reading Spanish assumes 2), just as "Discuss Other Microsoft Products and Betas" describes this subforum "Other Microsoft Products Microsoft Office 97-2016 Microsoft Beta Discussion". If someone wanted to create a topic in the subforum "DOS" they can create a title for example called using MS-DOS, using PC-DOS, using DR-DOS, how to use PC-Tools, et cetera as long as it should be related to DOS. Just as currently in the "Windows 9X/ME" subforum anyone can post a topic regarding Windows 95, 98, or ME. As for a CP/M section or an IBM OS/2 subforum you can propose that and see what happens. Neither of these two were as popular as D.O.S. today and seeing there is already resistance to adding a D.O.S. subforum it may be less likely to be approved in comparison. They are also not Microsoft Products so I'm not sure how they would fit on MSFN? The fraction of users using those other two Operating Systems is probably so small. Will we be adding TOS next or Amiga OS? P.S. Operating System 2 like Vista was too ahead of its time as the hardware wasn't powerful enough for it. People cared about boot times back then even I dreaded booting Windows 95A on a 486. I remember trying to install OS/2 on a 386 with multiple floppies and by the time I finished installing it and played around with it for an hour I had enough as there were no OS/2 specific software I had to make use of it and wiped it back to DOS. Today it could be a much different story using a virtual machine and I believe it was much prettier than Windows 3.1 in comparison but maybe today it looks awful. Edited September 2, 2017 by 98SE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 1 hour ago, 98SE said: DOS - Disk Operating System <--- This is the subforum just as "Windows 9x/ME" is the subforum of "[Microsoft Software Products]" Then is it the subforum of what? Everyone has his/her own idea about catalogs and indexing, but check the top left here: http://www.msfn.org/board/forum/8-windows-9xme/ Can you see?: Home>Microsoft Software Products>Windows 9x/ME That is similar to a DOS\Windows path. Can you translate your proposal in that notation? Is it: Home>Microsoft Software Products>DOS - Disk Operating System as it seemed, or is it something else? jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98SE Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, jaclaz said: Then is it the subforum of what? Everyone has his/her own idea about catalogs and indexing, but check the top left here: http://www.msfn.org/board/forum/8-windows-9xme/ Can you see?: Home>Microsoft Software Products>Windows 9x/ME That is similar to a DOS\Windows path. Can you translate your proposal in that notation? Is it: Home>Microsoft Software Products>DOS - Disk Operating System as it seemed, or is it something else? jaclaz Look at this link: http://www.msfn.org/board/forum/95-microsoft-software-products/ It will on the same tier as all these subforums listed there. the new "D.O.S. - Disk Operating System" subforum will be at the very bottom of the list under the last subforum listed there labeled: "Other Microsoft Products Microsoft Office 97-2016 Microsoft Beta Discussion Discuss Other Microsoft Products and Betas." Just for a little more clarity: Root Directory-> M.S.P. Parent Directory-> D.O.S. (SubDirectory of M.S.P.) Home -> Microsoft Software Products -> D.O.S. (Disk Operating System) Edited September 2, 2017 by 98SE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Yep, and this would virtually put non-Microsoft Software (such as "IBM PC-DOS, DR-DOS and possibly FreeDOS") under the Microsoft Software category, As said everyone has his/her own way to classify and organize info, and - again as said - I find yours particularly interesting, though you cannot put periods in "DOS" (this would be an actual mistake). jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcinwwl Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Not to dig deep into the details, but in general I appreciate the idea. MSFN is one of the best places for the maniacs of old Windows software and systems, and up to my humble opinion, such section might gather an interest of some new maniacs :> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dencorso Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Everybody who still wants to discuss DOS ought to know DOS ain't dead. Their traffic is almost (but not yet) nil. And there's a forum for DOS on reboot.pro, too. So, no. No new place to discuss DOS is actually needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, dencorso said: And there's a forum for DOS on reboot.pro, too. Just a word of warning for those not familiar with the site, it is currently down due to a SQL error, there was a server move announced some time ago, so probably this is the reason and it will (hopefully) be back in a few (latin) hours or days. jaclaz Edited September 3, 2017 by jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98SE Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, dencorso said: Everybody who still wants to discuss DOS ought to know DOS ain't dead. Their traffic is almost (but not yet) nil. And there's a forum for DOS on reboot.pro, too. So, no. No new place to discuss DOS is actually needed. While I will agree DOS isn't dead since I still use it and how I got 98SE working on a Z170 but still MSFN will benefit having it added its own subforum within the Microsoft Software Products forum. Also MSFN needs more foot traffic and I'm not one to jump onto a new board when this one could use it more although props to reboot.pro for their own. P.S. Paclaz warning: SQL Error An error occured with the SQL server: This is not a problem with the IPS Community Suite but rather with your SQL server. Please contact your host and copy the message shown above. Edited September 4, 2017 by 98SE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bphlpt Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 2 hours ago, 98SE said: P.S. Paclaz warning: SQL Error An error occured with the SQL server: This is not a problem with the IPS Community Suite but rather with your SQL server. Please contact your host and copy the message shown above. He knows. 5 hours ago, jaclaz said: Just a word of warning for those not familiar with the site, it is currently down due to a SQL error, there was a server move announced some time ago, so probably this is the reason and it will (hopefully) be back in a few (latin) hours or days. Cheers and Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 @98SE My nick/member name is jaclaz, it begins with J, as you can BTW clearly see in my avatar. You are kindly requested to STOP misspelling it. It is clearly intentional, it is not particularly fun as a joke or as a pun, and anyway we already got it. jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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