greenhillmaniac Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 LinusTechTips is just a bunch of clickbait videos with technology as their main theme. Most of the videos they make have no substance. One good thing this video prooved however, is how competitive Windows 7 still is, compared to Windows 10, in some of the benchmarks. Also, that Windows with no telemetry and magical good performance he mentions already exists. It's called Windows 8.1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) not if its abandoned by developer AFAIK XP was ditched in 2014 (WEPoS doesn't count, as they release it under diff name and "SKU"/licence) Edited March 22, 2017 by vinifera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripredacus Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 15 hours ago, vinifera said: not if its abandoned by developer AFAIK XP was ditched in 2014 (WEPoS doesn't count, as they release it under diff name and "SKU"/licence) Abadonware is determined by copyright, not active development. This is why MS software never ends up in the category of free distribution, no matter how old it is. Of course, they themselves can decide to release something if they want. Most often they do not, even for old software, which is disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 its not just development activation servers are killed too which is another stomp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jody Thornton Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 1 hour ago, vinifera said: its not just development activation servers are killed too which is another stomp I take it phone activation still works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jody Thornton Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 On 2017-03-12 at 0:37 PM, greenhillmaniac said: Also, that Windows with no telemetry and magical good performance he mentions already exists. It's called Windows 8.1 Doesn't Windows 8.1 have the telemetry as well? I thought it was the same boat as Windows 7, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenhillmaniac Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 10 hours ago, JodyT said: Doesn't Windows 8.1 have the telemetry as well? I thought it was the same boat as Windows 7, no? Like Windows 7, you can hide all telemetry updates, as long as you have a list (like I do for 8.1). DiagTrack doesn't even show it's ugly face when I'm updating 8.1 systems. It's not an herculean task to stay private on 7/8.1, compared to 10, so my point still stands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jody Thornton Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 4 hours ago, greenhillmaniac said: Like Windows 7, you can hide all telemetry updates, as long as you have a list (like I do for 8.1). DiagTrack doesn't even show it's ugly face when I'm updating 8.1 systems. It's not an herculean task to stay private on 7/8.1, compared to 10, so my point still stands. No that's cool. I thought you were trying to say that 8.1 had a leg up over 7, that was all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 AFAIK telemetry started with XP and Office 2003 had it even more integrated without user knowing it, as they recieved nice data what was clicked on and what was used Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashnburn4u Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 On 3/24/2017 at 2:51 PM, greenhillmaniac said: Like Windows 7, you can hide all telemetry updates, as long as you have a list (like I do for 8.1). DiagTrack doesn't even show it's ugly face when I'm updating 8.1 systems. It's not an herculean task to stay private on 7/8.1, compared to 10, so my point still stands. Do share such a valuable list with us all Maybe we can Git + Powershell it to make it semi automated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenhillmaniac Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 37 minutes ago, crashnburn4u said: Do share such a valuable list with us all Maybe we can Git + Powershell it to make it semi automated Sure, here's a screenshot of my hidden updates: Most of these updates are Windows Update Client Updates from the Windows 10 Upgrade offer era, that are offered once you hide the July 2016 Rollup. Here's a list in text format: 2976978 3044374 3046480 3050267 3065988 3068708-(after hidding July Rollup) 3075249 3075853 3080149 3083325 3083711 3102812 3112336 3135449 3138615 3150513-(only if you install 2976978) 3161102- 3170735 3172614 3179574 3184143 3185279 Monthly/Preview Rollups (outdated with the March ones, but they are easy to hide) 3185331 3192404 3197874 3197875 3205401 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashnburn4u Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 On 4/10/2017 at 4:20 PM, greenhillmaniac said: Sure, here's a screenshot of my hidden updates: Most of these updates are Windows Update Client Updates from the Windows 10 Upgrade offer era, that are offered once you hide the July 2016 Rollup. Here's a list in text format: 2976978 3044374 3046480 3050267 3065988 3068708-(after hidding July Rollup) 3075249 3075853 3080149 3083325 3083711 3102812 3112336 3135449 3138615 3150513-(only if you install 2976978) 3161102- 3170735 3172614 3179574 3184143 3185279 Monthly/Preview Rollups (outdated with the March ones, but they are easy to hide) 3185331 3192404 3197874 3197875 3205401 Thanks. Wondering if you're still keeping this up to date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenhillmaniac Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 6 hours ago, crashnburn4u said: Thanks. Wondering if you're still keeping this up to date? For the most part, these telemetry updates have all been included in the newest Monthly Rollup, so if you want to avoid it you should use @abbodi1406's script hosted on Askwoody: https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/2000012-neutralize-telemetry-sustain-win-7-8-1-monthly-rollup-model/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdf2345 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Do the mods still think redistributing Windows without a crack is "piracy"? Just wondering because I made a copy of Vista updated to EOL, and I'm wanting to post it. Also, there's a custom copy of Windows called Windows 9. It's basically a highly modded, updated, and slimmed down 8.1 Embedded Industry Pro copy, which I'm 100% certain that Microsoft knows about, because of all the coverage it got by Reddit and LTT. Also, the creator states "This image is provided with no license key, therefore it is not an illegal source of windows. Users must provide their own license key for activation." I agree with that statement, and it appears to have worked for all the years Windows 9 has existed, because it's still a thing, and still hosted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R4D3 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) Quote Do the mods still think redistributing Windows without a crack is "piracy"? Its not their decision, MS just don´t allow it! - That is the reason, why tools like NTLite, Dism++, wimtweak,... still exist. - The other thing is, you can not be sure, that a 3d party modificated iso, doesn´t get backdoors. MS allowed some people, the distribution by permission, but only of untouched iso´s. - If you got a "perfect" iso - you can only write scripts, post your preset, etc, that other people can reproduce it! (This is the legal way!) For me, a combination of changing registry package permissions, wimtweak scripts, sysprep and vm export worked the best -> removing as much as possible, without destroying Windows Update, Store, Firewall... Edited September 8, 2020 by R4D3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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