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Windows 7 on a Kaby Lake laptop


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41 minutes ago, niemand said:

Hi greenhillmaniac,

Would you be able to reveal your exact HP model (ideally, with a manufacturer's URL)?

I'm also considering an HP laptop so knowing if it can handle Win 7 is critical.

Obrigado

Be warned that I haven't been able to successfully install the Intel HDMI drivers on Windows 7. Perhaps with a bit more search it would be possible, but I've changed to Windows 8.1, as it suits my needs a bit better.

The laptop model is a HP 15-ay105np, with a custom shop configuration to have 8Gb of DDR4 RAM: http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c05326875/?openCLC=true

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Thanks for the provided information, greenhillmaniac. It's actually quite close to my other laptop's specification.

Acer Aspire E5-774G-74CB
https://www.acer.com/datasheets/2016/4876/E5-774G/NX.GEDEZ.006.html
https://www.acer.com/ac/en/GB/content/support-product/6784?b=1&pn=NX.GEDEZ.006

My HP is below.
HP Notebook - 15-ay146nz (Z6L92EA)
http://support.hp.com/ca-en/document/c05348678

I tried installing Win 7 on the above Acer but without much luck. I'll continue for some more time and then try the HP.

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I just wanted to confirm that both  v21.20.16.4508 & v21.20.16.4526 are compatible with Kaby Lake iGPU and Windows 7 x64.

They work fine for the most part. I found two glitches:

4508 - it has a performance issue with the Cinebench R15 CPU test.
4526 - scaling doesn't work for some resolutions.

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52 minutes ago, Tripredacus said:

If anyone finds a CPU that makes Windows 10 not able to get updates, be sure to let me know. :angel

I searched for updates on my Windows 8.1 Kaby Lake laptop this Sunday, and it worked just fine... Maybe they only applied that today.

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13 hours ago, Tripredacus said:

If anyone finds a CPU that makes Windows 10 not able to get updates, be sure to let me know. :angel

I think i know .............................  Any processor with out NX Bit as they cannot run 10 so no way of update

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Guess we already know how Microsoft is going to block Updates for Kaby Lake and Ryzen owners: with an update (how ironic!)

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4012218/march-2017-preview-of-monthly-quality-rollup-for-windows-7-sp1-and-windows-server-2008-r2-sp1

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4012219/march-2017-preview-of-monthly-quality-rollup-for-windows-8-1-and-windows-server-2012-r2

If we go to Windows 7 and 8.1's update history page, both these March preview updates have one line in common:

  • "Enabled detection of processor generation and hardware support when PC tries to scan or download updates through Windows Update."

So, from now on, owners of new CPUs need to only install Security Only updates and stear clear of the Monthly Rollups.

EDIT: Once again, Windows 8.0 users are the lucky ones, since Microsoft doesn't give a frick about NT 6.2, they didn't include this "feature" in the March preview update for Server 2012.

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Let us just hope it is only going to effect Windows Update and not the updates themselves. My last Win7 PC I built, I disabled Windows Update straight away. However, some times I did have to install an MSU due to other software requirements. For example, you can install H1Z1 on Windows 7 SP1 RTM x64, but it needs one update to work. They could really put the screws to people by blocking you from installing individual updates on these CPUs.

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55 minutes ago, Tripredacus said:

Let us just hope it is only going to effect Windows Update and not the updates themselves. My last Win7 PC I built, I disabled Windows Update straight away. However, some times I did have to install an MSU due to other software requirements. For example, you can install H1Z1 on Windows 7 SP1 RTM x64, but it needs one update to work. They could really put the screws to people by blocking you from installing individual updates on these CPUs.

Can Windows Update packages detect the CPU and block accordingly?

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I guess I'm not as up in arms about this one, only because hardware vendors deprecated driver support for Vista and Windows XP, well before their expiry dates (I know CPU blocking might be unprecedented).

My question is, will Windows 7 and 8x install on these CPUs without issue?  I suppose if that was able to happen, then Microsoft should let the systems run in a compatibility mode of some sort.  But I suppose I wonder why can't Microsoft exercise their "subject to change without notice" clause and say "Look guys.  We're in a different business climate now.  We need to streamline support testing and maximize profit.  In doing so, we need to accelerate the deprecation of older systems, so that we have one corporate vision."

Besides, since it's their product, can't they do with it as they wish, even by providing limited support based on certain new conditions?

I guess, the only reason I'm not so worked up on this, is that I can run Windows 8 on older but still suitable hardware.  Not meant to enrage anyone.  :)

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