Windows 98 Problems

[Alanoll]

does Windows 98 EVER come up at the top of the screen? with theWindows logo to the left of it?

Or does it still look like dos.

That's what I meant by when does it happen.

If it's dos, make sure you have the PATH set correctly to your install files

If anyone else has any problems speak up, but BE SPECIFIC! I need to know EXACTLY when it happens. daywalker's error can come at ANY point of the install. If i'm even going to attempt to configure a setup to match yours I need to know the specifics. BE DESCRIPTIVE!

[daywalker03]

I was trying to get a screen capture so you could see exactly the error I'm getting. It's still in DOS. I'm using flyakite's 98se disk image, so I think the path is set right. For what it's worth, if I manually partition and format, OEMSetup will start the installation. Figure that out...

[MAVERICKS CHOICE]

Alanoll I set the CD rom letters up as you described in other post as below, however during the dos setup it complains the drivers cannot be found on either drive d or e & if i swap to the other DVD drive it complains it can't find the driver on drive e or d. Im a little lost on this one?

@ECHO OFF

set EXPAND=YES

SET DIRCMD=/O:N

set LglDrv=27 * 26 Z 25 Y 24 X 23 W 22 V 21 U 20 T 19 S 18 R 17 Q 16 P 15

set LglDrv=%LglDrv% O 14 N 13 M 12 L 11 K 10 J 9 I 8 H 7 G 6 F 5 E 4 D 3 C

cls

call setramd.bat %LglDrv%

set temp=c:\

set tmp=c:\

path=%RAMD%:\;a:\;%CDROM%:\

copy command.com %RAMD%:\ > NUL

set comspec=%RAMD%:\command.com

copy extract.exe %RAMD%:\ > NUL

copy readme.txt %RAMD%:\ > NUL

:ERROR

IF EXIST ebd.cab GOTO EXT

echo Please insert Windows 98 Startup Disk 2

echo.

pause

GOTO ERROR

:EXT

%RAMD%:\extract /y /e /l %RAMD%: ebd.cab > NUL

echo The diagnostic tools were successfully loaded to drive %RAMD%.

echo.

LH %ramd%:\MSCDEX.EXE /D:mscd001 /L:%CDROM%

IF EXIST D:\Win51 Set CDROM=D:

IF EXIST E:\Win51 Set CDROM=E:

IF EXIST F:\Win51 Set CDROM=F:

IF EXIST G:\Win51 Set CDROM=G:

IF EXIST H:\Win51 SET CDROM=H:

echo.

cls

echo Now installing Windows 98 SE

echo.

echo Loading...

path=%RAMD%:\;a:\;%CDROM%:\SETUP\98SE\WIN98\

OEMSETUP.EXE

echo.

GOTO QUIT

:QUIT

echo To get help, type HELP and press ENTER.

echo.

rem clean up environment variables

set CDROM=

set LglDrv=

Have I setup the batch file correctly to call the relevant drive?

[Alanoll]

hmmm, Mav that's a doosy....

seems like it should work....

have you tried changing the file?

In your config.sys are you loading the CDROM drivers to begin with.

[Alanoll]

I was trying to get a screen capture so you could see exactly the error I'm getting. It's still in DOS. I'm using flyakite's 98se disk image, so I think the path is set right. For what it's worth, if I manually partition and format, OEMSetup will start the installation. Figure that out... 

what does your Autoexec.bat look like?

[daywalker03]

Here it is.

@ECHO OFF
set EXPAND=YES
SET DIRCMD=/O:N
set LglDrv=27 * 26 Z 25 Y 24 X 23 W 22 V 21 U 20 T 19 S 18 R 17 Q 16 P 15
set LglDrv=%LglDrv% O 14 N 13 M 12 L 11 K 10 J 9 I 8 H 7 G 6 F 5 E 4 D 3 C
cls
call setramd.bat %LglDrv%
set temp=c:\
set tmp=c:\
path=%RAMD%:\;a:\;%CDROM%:\
copy command.com %RAMD%:\ > NUL
set comspec=%RAMD%:\command.com
copy extract.exe %RAMD%:\ > NUL
copy readme.txt %RAMD%:\ > NUL

:ERROR
IF EXIST ebd.cab GOTO EXT
echo Please insert Windows 98 Startup Disk 2
echo.
pause
GOTO ERROR

:EXT
%RAMD%:\extract /y /e /l %RAMD%: ebd.cab > NUL
echo The diagnostic tools were successfully loaded to drive %RAMD%.
echo.
LH %ramd%:\MSCDEX.EXE /D:mscd001 /L:%CDROM%
echo.
cls
echo Now installing Windows 98 SE
echo.
echo Loading...
path=%RAMD%:\;a:\;%CDROM%:\SETUP\98SE\WIN98\
OEMSETUP.EXE
echo.
GOTO QUIT

:QUIT
echo To get help, type HELP and press ENTER.
echo.
rem clean up environment variables
set CDROM=
set LglDrv=

[Alanoll]

you sure mscdex.exe is on the ramdrive? On a normal Startup disk, it's not compressed.

i believe you've run in the same problem that a few others have had. Others used Setup.exe though, but it would freeze.

See what happens if your change /L:%CDROM% to /L:D

and then change the %CDROM%:\Setup....to D:\Setup

[daywalker03]

Yes, the mscdex.exe is on the ramdisk. The ramdisk is D:, so I'd have to set the CDROM as E:. Like I said though, if I exit the setup to the A:\ command prompt, I can fdisk and format the virtual drive, reboot and OEMSetup will start to install Windows 98se. I even tried different virtual drive sizes last night to see if that was the problem, and it's not.

[Alanoll]

is this in VMWare or VirtualPC?

do go through the prompts in OEMSetup.exe about it askign to format or whatnot?

you may wish to add these lines to the autoexec.bat as well. They are in the orignal autoexec.bat from Microsoft.

%CDROM%:

cd \CDSource\WIN_98SE\WIN98

then the next line would be OEMSETUP.EXE /K "/IE /NF"

[daywalker03]

Microsoft Virtual PC. It hangs when trying to format. It does create the partitions, but hangs trying to access the CDROM. Error message is this: "Please insert the following disk in drive D (or your CD-ROM drive): Windows 98 Boot Disk or CD-ROM When you are ready to continue, press ENTER. " Since the disk is an ISO image and it is "in" the virtual cd-rom, I hit enter and the error message repeats.

[Alanoll]

try mounting the ISO in Alcohol or DaemonTools, and have VirtualPC snag the virtual drive.

as for the harddrive, do you have it set to be dynamically increasing or fixed?

[MAVERICKS CHOICE]

hmmm, Mav that's a doosy....

seems like it should work....

have you tried changing the file?

In your config.sys are you loading the CDROM drivers to begin with.

Alanoll, have not modified the config.sys here it is below? Any ideas?

files=10

buffers=10

dos=high,umb

stacks=9,256

lastdrive=z

device=himem.sys /testmem:off

device=oakcdrom.sys /D:mscd001

device=btdosm.sys

device=flashpt.sys

device=btcdrom.sys /D:mscd001

device=aspi2dos.sys

device=aspi8dos.sys

device=aspi4dos.sys

device=aspi8u2.sys

device=aspicd.sys /D:mscd001

devicehigh=ramdrive.sys /E 2048

[daywalker03]

try mounting the ISO in Alcohol or DaemonTools, and have VirtualPC snag the virtual drive.

as for the harddrive, do you have it set to be dynamically increasing or fixed?

Don't have either program you mentioned to try that. As for the virtual hard disk, it's set for dynamic. I'll try fixed size to see if that makes any difference.

Even with it using a fixed size disk, it hangs up.

Edited April 9, 2004 by daywalker03

[MAVERICKS CHOICE]

Alanoll not trying to be pushy but you did start this topic?????????

[Alanoll]

whooops, sorry ran into a few probs when reinstallin my computer, it was wierd, kept not being able to find the CAT files because the paths were wrong somewhere. But it worked jsut fine in VirtualPC and VMWare. Oh well..

I'll edit this post when I catch up, and wake up.

EDIT:

just to test, not really to fix the problem. REM out the line OEMSETUP.EXE

then when it gets to the command prompt, try to access the CDROM.

also, I was looking and the variable %CDROM% is never actually defined. So.....you may want to try removing /L:%CDROM% or changing it to /L:D