bluebolt Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 I tested Windows 2000 Professional with the following hardware: ASRock X99 Extreme4 LGA 2011-v3 motherboard Intel i7-5960x processor G.SKILL F4-3000C15Q-16GRBB RAM I took an earlier HFSLIP package from tomasz86, which includes Unofficial Update Rollup v11-w20130323, and used nLite to integrate blackwingcat’s custom chipset software and 8.9 AHCI driver, and to make the ISO, which I burned to CD using Nero 7.11.10.0c. I ran Unofficial Update Rollup v11-d20141130 and .net frameworks 1-4 (11142014) from tomasz86, used BWC nVidia 353.06 drivers for the graphics card, and enabled PAE mode. Here is a screenshot to demonstrate the first full-fledged test install: I guess blackwingcat’s chipset software names at least 100 system devices (which is that many fewer yellow question marks in Device Manager). I tried blackwingcat’s PRO2Kv2 and PRO2K v3 drivers for the LAN (it’s an Intel i218v, I think) by extracting the files and directing Device Manager to the extracts using Windows Update, but it can’t find a driver or says the OS is not supported, so I still need to figure that out, and maybe some other stuff. I realize that most computerists would just assume that it's not possible to install Windows 2000 Professional on the X99 platform, and moreover, find it quite unfathomable that anyone would want to, but for the record it's actually really easy the second time. 3
blackwingcat Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 6 hours ago, bluebolt said: I guess blackwingcat’s chipset software names at least 100 system devices (which is that many fewer yellow question marks in Device Manager). I tried blackwingcat’s PRO2Kv2 and PRO2K v3 drivers for the LAN (it’s an Intel i218v, I think) by extracting the files and directing Device Manager to the extracts using Windows Update, but it can’t find a driver or says the OS is not supported, so I still need to figure that out, and maybe some other stuff. I realize that most computerists would just assume that it's not possible to install Windows 2000 Professional on the X99 platform, and moreover, find it quite unfathomable that anyone would want to, but for the record it's actually really easy the second time. Can you write down yellow question marks device Vendor id and device ID ? And did you forget setting msiexec.exe XP compatible mode for other application for PRO2K driver ? I think You can install lan driver from inf file directly.
bluebolt Posted March 22, 2016 Author Posted March 22, 2016 Not there yet but a little closer, the red part is advice from pci-z 1.4:
blackwingcat Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 1 hour ago, bluebolt said: Not there yet but a little closer, the red part is advice from pci-z 1.4: http://blog.livedoor.jp/blackwingcat/archives/1229855.html ACPI\PNP103 Driver is here. You should make localize to English. :") ACPI0004 is CPU container . does your bios setting have "legacy ACPI table show" ? And it is "ACPI Module Device Driver" I think maker provide it I218-V... Will you show me its dependency for example the following?
blackwingcat Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 Just now, blackwingcat said: http://blog.livedoor.jp/blackwingcat/archives/1229855.html ACPI\PNP103 Driver is here. You should make localize to English. :") ACPI0004 is CPU container . does your bios setting have "legacy ACPI table show" ? And it is "ACPI Module Device Driver" I think maker provide it And How about force install IntelPPM driver ? I218-V... Will you show me its dependency for example the following?
bluebolt Posted March 23, 2016 Author Posted March 23, 2016 Thanks for the information, I don't find any legacy ACPI settings, but it's hard to tell for certain because now when I enter my BIOS it freezes within 15 seconds. Dependency Walker opened with "Errors were detected when processing" E1D5032.SYS (PRO2kv3):
dencorso Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 Disconnect the power cable from the wall. Wait until any lighted LEDs turn off. Wait for one minute more. Disconnect All SATA devices (SSD/HDD/CD/DVD/Blu-Ray). Reconnect the power cable to the wall outlet, start the machine, then enter BIOS. Does it still freeze within 15 sec?
blackwingcat Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, bluebolt said: Dependency Walker opened with "Errors were detected when processing" E1D5032.SYS (PRO2kv3): You shoud add Option > Module Search Order "drivers" folder http://blog.livedoor.jp/blackwingcat/archives/1883591.html Edited March 23, 2016 by blackwingcat
bluebolt Posted March 23, 2016 Author Posted March 23, 2016 11 hours ago, dencorso said: Disconnect the power cable from the wall. Wait until any lighted LEDs turn off. Wait for one minute more. Disconnect All SATA devices (SSD/HDD/CD/DVD/Blu-Ray). Reconnect the power cable to the wall outlet, start the machine, then enter BIOS. Does it still freeze within 15 sec? This morning the BIOS is no longer freezing, go figure. Thanks for the reminder to completely disconnect first, because I still may need to clear and reset the system… I got a “ntldr is missing” when I tried to start the other day, investigated and found that when I boot up with a USB stick installed, the BIOS in its wisdom resets the boot order to boot first from the USB sticks. I hope to experiment a while longer first if I have to send it off for service, because I don’t have a backup board in place yet.
bluebolt Posted March 23, 2016 Author Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) The affinity between Windows 2000 Professional and this motherboard was unexpected, and makes me wonder… It could be the platform (X99) or the brand (ASRock); this is my first experience with either. So an ASRock Z-97 might make a good choice for W2k Pro. After installation, but before enabling PAE, my System Properties showed 1.5 GB of RAM. Normally my installations show 3.65 GB RAM. Is this because there is no video on this line of CPUs? While 3.65 GB of memory is one thing, 1.5 GB definitely looks like a bottleneck here--no problem for W2k as PAE is reliable, but what about 32-bit XP? Not so good. During early practice installs a few days ago, I decided to try a Windows 2000 Professional “Includes Service Pack 3” original OS disc, and was amazed to watch the installation proceed right through to the end in full ACPI Multiprocessor PC mode: Edited March 23, 2016 by bluebolt
bluebolt Posted March 27, 2016 Author Posted March 27, 2016 On 3/23/2016 at 7:17 PM, blackwingcat said: On 3/23/2016 at 7:15 PM, blackwingcat said: http://blog.livedoor.jp/blackwingcat/archives/1229855.html ACPI\PNP103 Driver is here. You should make localize to English. :") ACPI0004 is CPU container . does your bios setting have "legacy ACPI table show" ? And it is "ACPI Module Device Driver" I think maker provide it And How about force install IntelPPM driver ? I218-V... Will you show me its dependency for example the following? I downloaded ACPI\PNP103 Driver, localized to English and installed through Device Manager--it worked perfectly. Thank you! One less problem device listed now. I investigated different ACPI settings in BIOS, but nothing de-lists the CPU container. Copied IntelPPM driver to system32 drivers folder but when I ran intel4.reg I received “Cannot import…Error accessing the registry.” Regarding the LAN, msiexec.exe was set. Added “Option > Module Search Order ‘drivers’ folder” to Dependency Walker but results appear the same. Tried various other drivers, but the “Connection (2) I218-V” (as BIOS identifies it) is still not working, no matter which driver I force.
bluebolt Posted March 28, 2016 Author Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) Finding almost nothing in the way of ACPI drivers, and beggars can’t be choosy, I tried this NEC file: 12q4_86_pcd_01.zip downloaded from here:https://www.driverdouble.com/drivers/nec-acpi-module-device.html I un-zipped it and directed Device Manager to the first Unknown on the list, which it seemed to like; Windows asked for a reboot, then three successive reboots resulting in a little progress as these "unknowns" became System Devices listings in Device Manager: Edited March 28, 2016 by bluebolt
blackwingcat Posted March 29, 2016 Posted March 29, 2016 On 2016年3月28日 at 11:08 AM, bluebolt said: How about dependency Walker with fixed search order ?
bluebolt Posted March 30, 2016 Author Posted March 30, 2016 18 hours ago, blackwingcat said: How about dependency Walker with fixed search order ? I don’t know Dependency Walker, maybe I can attach here… e1d5032.dwi ...or if not, then Spoiler *****************************| System Information |***************************** Dependency Walker: 2.1.3623 (32-bit) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional (32-bit) OS Version: 5.00.2195 Service Pack 4 Processor: x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 2, GenuineIntel, ~2999MHz Number of Processors: 8, Mask: 0x000000FF Computer Name: BLUEBOLT-07A21C User Name: Administrator Local Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 Local Time: 7:47:43 AM Central Standard Time (GMT-06:00) OS Language: 0x0409: English (United States) Memory Load: 18% Physical Memory Total: 1,530,146,816 (1460 MB) Physical Memory Used: 282,066,944 Physical Memory Free: 1,248,079,872 Page File Memory Total: 4,294,967,295 Page File Memory Used: 0 Page File Memory Free: 4,294,967,295 Virtual Memory Total: 2,147,352,576 Virtual Memory Used: 47,783,936 Virtual Memory Free: 2,099,568,640 Page Size: 0x00001000 (4,096) Allocation Granularity: 0x00010000 (65,536) Min. App. Address: 0x00010000 (65,536) Max. App. Address: 0x7FFEFFFF (2,147,418,111) ********************************| Search Order |******************************** * * * Legend: F File E Error (path not valid) * * * ******************************************************************************** A user defined directory [ ] C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\My Documents\PRO2k v3\APPS\PROSETDX\Win32\DRIVERS\ Side-by-Side Components (Windows XP only) The system's "KnownDLLs" list [F ] c:\winnt\system32\ADVAPI32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\COMCTL32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\COMDLG32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\CRYPT32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\GDI32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\IMAGEHLP.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\KERNEL32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\LZ32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\MPR.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\MSASN1.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\MSVCRT.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\NTDLL.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\OLE32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\OLEAUT32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\OLECLI32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\OLECNV32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\OLESVR32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\OLETHK32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\RPCRT4.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\SHELL32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\SHLWAPI.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\URL.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\URLMON.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\USER32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\VERSION.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\WININET.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\WLDAP32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\WOW32.DLL The application directory [ ] C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\My Documents\PRO2k v3\PRO1000-v2\Win32\ The 32-bit system directory [ ] C:\WINNT\system32\ The 16-bit system directory (Windows NT/2000/XP only) [ ] C:\WINNT\system\ The system's root OS directory [ ] C:\WINNT\ The application's registered "App Paths" directories The system's "PATH" environment variable directories [ ] C:\WINNT\system32\ [ ] C:\WINNT\ [ ] C:\WINNT\System32\Wbem\ [ ] C:\Program Files\Intel\DMIX\ ***************************| Module Dependency Tree |*************************** * * * Legend: F Forwarded Module ? Missing Module 6 64-bit Module * * D Delay Load Module ! Invalid Module * * * Dynamic Module E Import/Export Mismatch or Load Failure * * ^ Duplicate Module * * * ******************************************************************************** [ ] E1D5032.SYS [ ] NTOSKRNL.EXE [ ^ ] HAL.DLL [ ] BOOTVID.DLL [ ^ ] NTOSKRNL.EXE [ ^ ] HAL.DLL [ ] HAL.DLL [ ^ ] NTOSKRNL.EXE [ ? ] NDIS.SYS ********************************| Module List |********************************* * * * Legend: D Delay Load Module ? Missing Module 6 64-bit Module * * * Dynamic Module ! Invalid Module * * E Import/Export Mismatch or Load Failure * * * ******************************************************************************** Module File Time Stamp Link Time Stamp File Size Attr. Link Checksum Real Checksum CPU Subsystem Symbols Preferred Base Actual Base Virtual Size Load Order File Ver Product Ver Image Ver Linker Ver OS Ver Subsystem Ver ----- ------------ ----------------- ----------------- --------- ----- ------------- ------------- --- --------- ------- -------------- ----------- ------------ ---------- ------------- ------------- --------- ---------- ------ ------------- [ ? ] NDIS.SYS Error opening file. The system cannot find the file specified (2). [ ] BOOTVID.DLL 10/06/2011 4:35a 10/06/2011 2:35p 11,360 A 0x0000C7AA 0x0000C7AA x86 Native DBG 0x80010000 Unknown 0x00002C60 Not Loaded 5.0.2172.3 5.0.2172.3 5.0 5.12 5.0 5.0 [ ] E1D5032.SYS 11/29/2014 2:23p 01/16/2013 5:24p 224,008 A 0x00038535 0x00038535 x86 Native CV 0x00010000 Unknown 0x00039000 Not Loaded 12.5.18.0 5.2.3790.1830 5.2 7.10 5.2 5.2 [ ] HAL.DLL 03/21/2016 10:40a 07/10/2012 8:51p 92,544 A 0x00019FA8 0x00019FA8 x86 Native None 0x80010000 Unknown 0x00016980 Not Loaded 5.0.2195.7011 5.0.2195.7011 5.0 5.12 5.0 5.0 [ ] NTOSKRNL.EXE 08/12/2014 8:53p 12/06/2012 2:00a 1,784,000 A 0x001C122A 0x001C122A x86 Native DBG 0x00400000 Unknown 0x001B38C0 Not Loaded 5.0.2195.7394 5.0.2195.7394 5.0 5.12 5.0 5.0 ************************************| Log |************************************* Error: At least one required implicit or forwarded dependency was not found. I tried XP OS, “Have Disk” returned “no compatible hardware found” when directed to the Driver folder INFs.
blackwingcat Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 1 hour ago, bluebolt said: I don’t know Dependency Walker, maybe I can attach here… e1d5032.dwi ...or if not, then Reveal hidden contents *****************************| System Information |***************************** Dependency Walker: 2.1.3623 (32-bit) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional (32-bit) OS Version: 5.00.2195 Service Pack 4 Processor: x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 2, GenuineIntel, ~2999MHz Number of Processors: 8, Mask: 0x000000FF Computer Name: BLUEBOLT-07A21C User Name: Administrator Local Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 Local Time: 7:47:43 AM Central Standard Time (GMT-06:00) OS Language: 0x0409: English (United States) Memory Load: 18% Physical Memory Total: 1,530,146,816 (1460 MB) Physical Memory Used: 282,066,944 Physical Memory Free: 1,248,079,872 Page File Memory Total: 4,294,967,295 Page File Memory Used: 0 Page File Memory Free: 4,294,967,295 Virtual Memory Total: 2,147,352,576 Virtual Memory Used: 47,783,936 Virtual Memory Free: 2,099,568,640 Page Size: 0x00001000 (4,096) Allocation Granularity: 0x00010000 (65,536) Min. App. Address: 0x00010000 (65,536) Max. App. Address: 0x7FFEFFFF (2,147,418,111) ********************************| Search Order |******************************** * * * Legend: F File E Error (path not valid) * * * ******************************************************************************** A user defined directory [ ] C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\My Documents\PRO2k v3\APPS\PROSETDX\Win32\DRIVERS\ Side-by-Side Components (Windows XP only) The system's "KnownDLLs" list [F ] c:\winnt\system32\ADVAPI32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\COMCTL32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\COMDLG32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\CRYPT32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\GDI32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\IMAGEHLP.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\KERNEL32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\LZ32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\MPR.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\MSASN1.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\MSVCRT.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\NTDLL.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\OLE32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\OLEAUT32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\OLECLI32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\OLECNV32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\OLESVR32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\OLETHK32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\RPCRT4.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\SHELL32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\SHLWAPI.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\URL.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\URLMON.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\USER32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\VERSION.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\WININET.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\WLDAP32.DLL [F ] c:\winnt\system32\WOW32.DLL The application directory [ ] C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\My Documents\PRO2k v3\PRO1000-v2\Win32\ The 32-bit system directory [ ] C:\WINNT\system32\ The 16-bit system directory (Windows NT/2000/XP only) [ ] C:\WINNT\system\ The system's root OS directory [ ] C:\WINNT\ The application's registered "App Paths" directories The system's "PATH" environment variable directories [ ] C:\WINNT\system32\ [ ] C:\WINNT\ [ ] C:\WINNT\System32\Wbem\ [ ] C:\Program Files\Intel\DMIX\ ***************************| Module Dependency Tree |*************************** * * * Legend: F Forwarded Module ? Missing Module 6 64-bit Module * * D Delay Load Module ! Invalid Module * * * Dynamic Module E Import/Export Mismatch or Load Failure * * ^ Duplicate Module * * * ******************************************************************************** [ ] E1D5032.SYS [ ] NTOSKRNL.EXE [ ^ ] HAL.DLL [ ] BOOTVID.DLL [ ^ ] NTOSKRNL.EXE [ ^ ] HAL.DLL [ ] HAL.DLL [ ^ ] NTOSKRNL.EXE [ ? ] NDIS.SYS ********************************| Module List |********************************* * * * Legend: D Delay Load Module ? Missing Module 6 64-bit Module * * * Dynamic Module ! Invalid Module * * E Import/Export Mismatch or Load Failure * * * ******************************************************************************** Module File Time Stamp Link Time Stamp File Size Attr. Link Checksum Real Checksum CPU Subsystem Symbols Preferred Base Actual Base Virtual Size Load Order File Ver Product Ver Image Ver Linker Ver OS Ver Subsystem Ver ----- ------------ ----------------- ----------------- --------- ----- ------------- ------------- --- --------- ------- -------------- ----------- ------------ ---------- ------------- ------------- --------- ---------- ------ ------------- [ ? ] NDIS.SYS Error opening file. The system cannot find the file specified (2). [ ] BOOTVID.DLL 10/06/2011 4:35a 10/06/2011 2:35p 11,360 A 0x0000C7AA 0x0000C7AA x86 Native DBG 0x80010000 Unknown 0x00002C60 Not Loaded 5.0.2172.3 5.0.2172.3 5.0 5.12 5.0 5.0 [ ] E1D5032.SYS 11/29/2014 2:23p 01/16/2013 5:24p 224,008 A 0x00038535 0x00038535 x86 Native CV 0x00010000 Unknown 0x00039000 Not Loaded 12.5.18.0 5.2.3790.1830 5.2 7.10 5.2 5.2 [ ] HAL.DLL 03/21/2016 10:40a 07/10/2012 8:51p 92,544 A 0x00019FA8 0x00019FA8 x86 Native None 0x80010000 Unknown 0x00016980 Not Loaded 5.0.2195.7011 5.0.2195.7011 5.0 5.12 5.0 5.0 [ ] NTOSKRNL.EXE 08/12/2014 8:53p 12/06/2012 2:00a 1,784,000 A 0x001C122A 0x001C122A x86 Native DBG 0x00400000 Unknown 0x001B38C0 Not Loaded 5.0.2195.7394 5.0.2195.7394 5.0 5.12 5.0 5.0 ************************************| Log |************************************* Error: At least one required implicit or forwarded dependency was not found. I tried XP OS, “Have Disk” returned “no compatible hardware found” when directed to the Driver folder INFs. I said you should fix "Options > Dll Search Order" on Dependency Walker (Add drivers folder).
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