dencorso Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Whether the problem returns. The KB is entitltled "Installing and searching for updates is slow and high CPU usage occurs..." but I have it blocked and never needed it ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelC Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 15. Uninstalled KB3139940, KB3133977, KB3137061 and started updates. The update list still showed quickly. 16. Uninstalled KB3139852, KB3139914 and started updates. The update list took 25 minutes. 17. Reinstalled KB3139852. The update list showed quickly. I'd say, without actually going further with testing (which I will do), that security update KB3139852 may be the one that resolves the slowness problem. -Noel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelC Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 It turns out KB3102810 isn't installed on my system, so I can't uninstall it to see if it makes any difference. I didn't ever see it offered. Maybe it's superseded? Were you thinking I should try installing it directly from the web page? Perhaps that KB3139852 seems to fix it now the point is moot? -Noel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dencorso Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 No. I think it may have been superseded by one or more of the later WU/MU updates, despite MS declaring "this update doesn't replace a previously released update" for any of the subsequent "Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: Month Year", fact is KB3102810 is effectively the November 2015 version of that patch series (for which only the January 2016 wasn't released, AFAIK), although it's not named accordingly... So, reasoning in this line, I guess you probably have KB3138612, or it's predecessor on the system, and I suspect they are, in fact, cumulative. If so, try to remove the latest "Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: Month Year". and see whether the slowness returns. TIA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomen Posted March 21, 2016 Author Share Posted March 21, 2016 The win-update system has been very responsive today. I've gone through the entire "important updates" list and I have downloaded everything except: IE-11 KB3020369 KB3138612 MS confirms there are or have been problems with 369, and from a little goog'ling on 612 I'm not happy with what I read about that one. The system has IE9 (and there was some sort of roll-up update for that that came down during today's session). I don't know what I want to do with this system in terms of IE so for the moment I'm leaving it at 9. Now I turn to the Optional Updates, and here's where I see many of the KB's on my "do not install" list turning up: KB2506928, KB2545698, KB2592687, KB2660075, KB2726535 KB2952664, KB2970228, KB3021917, KB3035583, KB3068708 KB3075249, KB3078667, KB3080149, KB3123862 And in addition to the above, I'm also being offered these: 2574819, 2830477, 2985461, 3006137, 3013531, 3020370 3040272, 3054476, 3080079, 3092627, 3102429, 3107998 3112148, 3118401, 3121255, 3133977, 3137061, 3138901 3139923 Which I might do some research to see if they're safe. I do not want this system to ever give a win-10 popup or nag message or do anything to proactively download it. Bottom line: I don't have 3083710 or 3102810 installed, and they have not been offered during this entire update sequence. Starting with Win7SP1 32bit with about 200 security and .net updates rolled in, the first few rounds of on-line updating were slow (in terms of downloading, not in terms of getting the list) but then the process sped up to full speed at some point while I was installing the remaining 70 security and .net updates. In terms of optional updates, I've only obtained the driver-related ones (so far) and have left the system with IE9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelC Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 When I started with mid-January level software, I would see about a half hour of CPU looping both before and after the point where you select updates to install. The update to the Windows Update process itself, KB3138612 seems to only resolve the CPU loop delay after selecting updates. KB3139852, all by itself, solves the problem on both ends. They must have changed something in the kernel to fix this and piggybacked it on a security update. -Noel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdt Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 On 3/19/2016 at 9:51 AM, sdt said: 18 hours ago, NoelC said: When I started with mid-January level software, I would see about a half hour of CPU looping both before and after the point where you select updates to install. The update to the Windows Update process itself, KB3138612 seems to only resolve the CPU loop delay after selecting updates. KB3139852, all by itself, solves the problem on both ends. They must have changed something in the kernel to fix this and piggybacked it on a security update. -Noel yes in my experience ive needed 3102810 at minimum or sometimes a combination of 3138612 947821 and 3102810 didnt work for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelC Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Please be more specific. What did you install, and did you find that AFTER waiting through the install and reboot, the NEXT time it was still slow? -Noel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdt Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 17 hours ago, NoelC said: Please be more specific. What did you install, and did you find that AFTER waiting through the install and reboot, the NEXT time it was still slow? -Noel the update 9852. yes! it was still slow. and high memory usage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdt Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 the only thing that works for my system is SURT 947821 +3102810 + 3138612 on a fresh install. otherwise no go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dencorso Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Thank you for the report, sdt! Your experience squares with mine, in that it seems that different hardware platforms need different update combinations to overcome the WU/MU slowness, while some machines need none. I interpret this as meaning there probably are more than one issue behind the same symptoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 On mercoledì 23 marzo 2016 at 7:25 PM, dencorso said: I interpret this as meaning there probably are more than one issue behind the same symptoms. This is a good example of how these kinds of things are highly subjective, being old and grumpy I interpret this as meaning that the MS guys are a bunch of headless chickens that have not any idea how to setup properly their own crappy update mechanism. jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dencorso Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 On 3/21/2016 at 7:29 AM, NoelC said: When I started with mid-January level software, I would see about a half hour of CPU looping both before and after the point where you select updates to install. The update to the Windows Update process itself, KB3138612 seems to only resolve the CPU loop delay after selecting updates. KB3139852, all by itself, solves the problem on both ends. They must have changed something in the kernel to fix this and piggybacked it on a security update. -Noel Here's further confimation of NoelC's findings: 2 hours ago, MrMaguire said: KB3139852 does the trick. For whatever reason, the pages hosting the update on Microsoft's website seem to be unavailable... Here are the direct links for Vista and 7: Vista x86: http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/E/6/4E6AF60C-C739-4482-80D8-56078FF53D47/Windows6.0-KB3139852-x86.msu Vista x64: http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/B/B/EBB3852D-B509-403A-AF0C-9D0DB203DDBC/Windows6.0-KB3139852-x64.msu 7 x86: http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/5/6/856E79B4-006F-4F37-BB3B-D84D16C4C28F/Windows6.1-KB3139852-x86.msu 7 x64: http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/7/9/67988833-36CA-462E-8DF8-9AE41D92FADB/Windows6.1-KB3139852-x64.msu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
submix8c Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 (sigh...) Every single OS, Vista and up. Yay, MS!https://technet.microsoft.com/library/security/MS16-034 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdt Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 On 3/27/2016 at 7:35 AM, dencorso said: Here's further confimation of NoelC's findings: i think the difference is cuz of a fresh install vs "mid-january level" system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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