VistaLover Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) @artomberus ... Actually, the very last build of Vivaldi on the stable (release) branch that would run on Vista SP2 is 1.1.453.59, based on Chromium 50.0.2661.102 source code: The screengrab is actually from an unofficial portable installation (in PAF format); search for it on the web... Official link to the v1.1.453.59 (32-bit) installer: https://downloads.vivaldi.com/stable/Vivaldi.1.1.453.59.exe The very last build of Vivaldi on the snapshot (dev) channel that would run on Vista SP2 was indeed 1.2.470.11, based on Chromium 50.0.2661.89 source code: (... again, this is a portable installation in PAF format). On 6/11/2019 at 8:19 AM, artomberus said: But unfortunately - links to old snapshots from the official site do not work - the files are deleted. And nowhere else on the network is there an installer for this version. If you have it or you know where to find it - please share it The relevant vivaldi blog entry is: https://vivaldi.com/blog/snapshots/snapshot-1-2-470-11-editable-gestures-2/ but, as you found out, ALL binary links are 404'ed now... TBH, both builds date to May 2016, which means they are probably unsafe to browse today's web with, not to mention that many sites have dropped long ago Chromium 50 compatibility; YMMV, but poor site/page rendering is highly probable ; if you plan to install uB0, 1.16.18/1.16.20 is the last one (but hard to find as a .CRX file) that successfully works with those old builds... I only have on disk the 32-bit version of Vivaldi 1.2.470.11[dev] (file Vivaldi.1.2.470.11.exe, dig. sig. of Wed, May 4th 2016, 17:08:01), but I am unsure as to whether I am allowed to share it here... Don't have time currently to search exhaustively for an archived link for it (sadly, web.archive.org doesn't appear to have salvaged it )... Edited June 13, 2019 by VistaLover 4
artomberus Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) @VistaLover Excellent - thanks for the clarification! I checked the stable version 1.1 of the one that was on my hard drive without taking the latest build. I'm more interested in version 1.2.470.11.dev . Of course, any old browser has vulnerabilities and incompatibilities - but in a more recent build there are fewer ones - so it is preferable. And it is interesting to test the implemented features that formally should not work on Vista. uBlock Origin should be on GitHub - all versions. If you can not share this version of Vivaldi here - can you send it via e-mail? I wrote you a private message. Edited June 13, 2019 by artomberus
amancinocy Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) On 3/2/2016 at 2:31 AM, WinClient5270 said: G Data Home Security Suite (Antivirus/Internet Security/Total Security) ($$$, CS) Last official versions of these pieces of software to support Vista is unknown, but are estimated to have stopped supporting Vista sometime in 2016. Last version with Vista support is 25.1.0.12. Official German article still serves links to download, but I don't know if definitions are delivered: https://www.gdata.de/support/faq/consumer/kompatibilitaet-mit-window-xp-windows-vista-und-outlook-2007 On 3/2/2016 at 2:31 AM, WinClient5270 said: Malwarebytes AdwCleaner (FREE, CS, UNS, ONG) Last version for Vista is 6.x, newer 7.x does not work. As far as I'm aware, outdated database with no possibility to update. https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/204703-release-adwcleaner-7000/ https://toolslib.net/downloads/viewdownload/1-adwcleaner/files/?s=6&t=release Edited June 13, 2019 by amancinocy 2
VistaLover Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 9 hours ago, artomberus said: but in a more recent build there are fewer ones - so it is preferable ... Actually, stable build v1.1.453.59 has a digital signature of 2016-05-13 and is built on slightly fresher Chromium source (50.0.2661.102), whereas dev build v1.2.470.11 has a digital signature of 2016-05-04 and is built on older Chromium source (50.0.2661.89); so the snapshot build you're after is not more recent than the stable one I posted a link to... 9 hours ago, artomberus said: uBlock Origin should be on GitHub - all versions. ... Yes, but only in (unsigned) ZIP format (which means you'll have to enable developer mode in vivaldi://extensions and install from unpacked folder; or, create yourself a .CRX file from within Vivaldi and permanently install that way... ). 9 hours ago, artomberus said: If you can not share this version of Vivaldi here ... Knock yourself out Vivaldi.1.2.470.11.exe https://www15.zippyshare.com/v/bNiTojuc/file.html (Link availability at the discretion of forum admins... ) 2
VistaLover Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, amancinocy said: Last version for Vista is 6.x, newer 7.x does not work. As far as I'm aware, outdated database with no possibility to update. This doesn't appear to be true ; I have just downloaded version 7.2.6.0 from the repository you linked to, it had no issue launching, furthermore it prompted me to update it to latest version 7.3.0.0; the update went along fine, I have it successfully running here: So, while it is not officially supported anymore on XP/Vista, as per your link: Quote Last but not least, Microsoft announced that Windows Vista is no longer supported. Since January 2017, Windows XP has represented 0.12 percent of our users. Windows Vista 1.51 percent. Thus, the choice has been made to no longer make AdwCleaner v7 compatible with these OS. AdwCleaner v7 now officially supports Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 8.1, Windows 10 and Windows 10 CU in both x32 and x64. latest version 7.3 appears to be functioning fine, at least on Vista SP2 (with .NET FW 4.6.1, if that matters at all)... Official download page: https://toolslib.net/downloads/viewdownload/1-adwcleaner/files/1920/ On-line documentation: https://toolslib.net/downloads/viewdownload/1-adwcleaner/pages/5-en-adwcleaner-documentation/ Off-line user guide (for v7.2.4): https://www.malwarebytes.com/pdf/guides/Malwarebytes-AdwCleaner-User-Guide.pdf OT: Doesn't it strike you as odd that Vista had more usage percentage at the time support was officially dropped than Windows XP? Edited June 14, 2019 by VistaLover 1
amancinocy Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, VistaLover said: This doesn't appear to be true ; I have just downloaded version 7.2.6.0 from the repository you linked to, it had no issue launching, furthermore it prompted me to update it to latest version 7.3.0.0; the update went along fine, I have it successfully running here: About the database update, I was referring to the 6.x line. Also, it has been reported that AdwCleaner 7 on Vista does nothing. Yes, it runs, but the scan is too fast and in fact there is no guarantee that your system is checked at all. Actually, the issue triggered an internal report with a suggestion to disable launching of AdwCleaner 7 on Vista with a dialog with unsupported versions. It seems that they have not do it yet. Edited June 13, 2019 by amancinocy 1
artomberus Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 @VistaLover, Thanks for the file!) Already downloaded. 2 hours ago, VistaLover said: stable build v1.1.453.59 has a digital signature of 2016-05-13 and is built on slightly fresher Chromium source I did not know it. In truth, I'm - the user, and appreciate the interface features. Mouse gestures and stuff. But I really thought that all unstable assemblies use a fresh engine, and stable ones always lag behind. It turns out that it is not. 2 hours ago, VistaLover said: Yes, but only in (unsigned) ZIP format (which means you'll have to enable developer mode in vivaldi://extensions and install from unpacked folder; or, create yourself a .CRX file from within Vivaldi and permanently install that way... ). I've done it before 2 hours ago, VistaLover said: Link availability at the discretion of forum admins... This is not pirated software... I think there is no reason to ban it. But maybe I need to learn the rules better. I still give links to 32-bit Java.
artomberus Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 JRE 9 and JDK 9 x86 - https://mega.nz/#F!gD41iCjQ!YMoTWKGtiJyym7bWDuj7kQ jre-9.0.4_windows-x86_bin.exe and jdk-9.0.3+9_windows-x86_bin.exe :) 4
VistaLover Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, amancinocy said: Also, it has been reported that AdwCleaner 7 on Vista does nothing. Yes, it runs, but the scan is too fast and in fact there is no guarantee that your system is checked at all. Actually, the issue triggered an internal report with a suggestion to disable launching of AdwCleaner 7 on Vista with a dialog with unsupported versions. It seems that they have not do it yet. You seem to know a lot more about this program than my humble self, so am not questioning the validity of what you posted ; however, I conducted a simple test: I launched v6.047 (after declining the prompt to update it...), and then went through its settings to configure it to my liking; then I initiated a scan: granted it took slightly more time to complete the scan (but that may be due to its older engine), but in the end it found exactly the same Folders, Scheduled Tasks and Registry entries as version 7.3.0 did! I never proceeded to the "Clean" action in either version (at least not without first creating a System Restore point), as most "flags" were actually identified by me to be false positives (many related to Chinese browser UCBrowser... ) Regards Edited June 14, 2019 by VistaLover 1
amancinocy Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) On 6/13/2019 at 8:32 PM, VistaLover said: You seem to know a lot more about this program than my humble self, so am not questioning the validity of what you posted ; however, I conducted a simple test: I am a member of various anti-malware communities including the official Malwarebytes forum with a status to access hidden forums. There was a report that AdwCleaner 7 on Vista exhibits the described behaviour. And the response was that potentially the lock should be added to prevent running the program at all. Edited February 4, 2020 by amancinocy Removed a link to my profile 1
VistaLover Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, amancinocy said: There was a report that AdwCleaner on Vista exibits the described behaviour. ... by described behaviour you mean: 47 minutes ago, VistaLover said: there is no guarantee that your system is checked at all. From my 7.3.0 scan log, you can see that 27501 objects were scanned: # ------------------------------- # Malwarebytes AdwCleaner 7.3.0.0 # ------------------------------- # Build: 04-04-2019 # Database: 2019-05-27.1 (Cloud) # Support: https://www.malwarebytes.com/support # # ------------------------------- # Mode: Scan # ------------------------------- # Start: 06-13-2019 # Duration: 00:00:40 # OS: Windows Vista (TM) Home Premium # Scanned: 27501 # Detected: 39 As said already, I haven't moved on to "Clean & Repair", so am not in a position to verify it properly removes a selected "flag" (but I might experiment with when spare time permits...). 41 minutes ago, amancinocy said: And the response was that potentially the lock should be added to prevent running the program at all. ... We here at the Vista subforums really hate it when app authors impose artificial blocks to their setups/executables and cripple them on our favourite OS, Vista; I hope the devs review their decision by actually testing themselves on the OS, even without officially supporting it... You appear to be running Win10, have you yourself tested latest version 7.3.0 on Vista? I apologise for being a pest... Edited June 13, 2019 by VistaLover 2
amancinocy Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) Under "described behavior" I mean what I said earlier "Yes, it runs, but the scan is too fast and in fact there is no guarantee that your system is checked at all." Some user reported that the scan takes less than second with no indication that it completed / did anything. So there are some circumstances when AdwCleaner 7 just doesn't work. I don't know what was different on his system in comparison to yours. Yes, I'm on Windows 10 with no possibility to check Vista. I just report what I've seen. Edited June 13, 2019 by amancinocy 1
amancinocy Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) More anti-malware / security programs still supporting Vista could be added to the first post: CryptoPrevent Anti-Malware https://www.d7xtech.com/cryptoprevent-anti-malware/ https://www.d7xtech.com/faq/what-happened-to-cryptoprevent-free-edition/ Cybergenic Shade Sandbox https://www.shadesandbox.com/ Dr. Web https://products.drweb.com/win/security_space/?lng=en https://products.drweb.com/win/av/?lng=en https://products.drweb.com/home/katana/?lng=en Hitman (now owned by Sophos) https://www.hitmanpro.com/en-us/hmp.aspx https://www.hitmanpro.com/en-us/alert.aspx Jetico Personal Firewall https://www.jetico.com/free-security-tools/block-out-bad-guys-jetico-personal-firewall KeyScrambler https://www.qfxsoftware.com/ks-windows/which-keyscrambler.htm NoVirusThanks programs https://www.novirusthanks.org/products/anti-autoexec/ https://www.novirusthanks.org/products/syshardener/ https://www.novirusthanks.org/products/registry-guard/ https://www.novirusthanks.org/products/registry-guard-service/ Qihoo 360 https://www.360totalsecurity.com/en/features/360-total-security-essential/ https://www.360totalsecurity.com/en/features/360-total-security/ RogueKiller https://www.adlice.com/download/roguekiller/ SecureAPlus https://www.secureaplus.com/download simplewall (partial support) https://www.henrypp.org/product/simplewall SpyShelter https://www.spyshelter.com/download-spyshelter/ TinyWall https://tinywall.pados.hu/download.php TrustPort https://www.trustport.com/en/support/frequently-asked-questions Unchecky https://unchecky.com/faq Xvirus https://xvirus.net/xvirus-personal-firewall.html#xvirus-firewall https://xvirus.net/#anti-malware Zemana https://www.zemana.com/antimalware https://www.zemana.com/antilogger Edited June 13, 2019 by amancinocy 3
VistaLover Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, amancinocy said: with no indication that it completed / did anything. So there are some circumstances when AdwCleaner 7 just doesn't work. I don't know what was different on his system in comparison to yours. I can definitely report that on my 11 year old Vista SP2 32-bit install (with WS2008 updates up to Oct 2017 and .NET FW 4.6.1 manually installed), the app completes the scan successfully: I'd be much obliged if you forwarded this to your Malwarebytes connections/devs, so they could hopefully be prevented from taking a lighthearted and quick decision, based solely on one reported "issue"; we understand (but certainly not approve...) they don't want to support Vista anymore, but they should not artificially block the software from running on "compatible" (?) Vista configurations: If it works, don't break it! If it doesn't work to begin with, no support should be requested; then everyone's happy... Thanks in advance for alerting the Malwarebytes people... PS: Just a thought/question of mine I wanted to publicly voice: Why is it that "Security/Anti-Malware" software decide to jump the boat once dear ol' Microsoft terminates "official" support for one of their OSes? A sane, everyday, person would think that such software is rendered all the more necessary on said OS (one the vendor stopped patching); just look at what happened with XP: M$ killed for good its MSE solution, so die-hard XP users turned to third party paid apps still supporting XP (which means added profit for the authors of these apps...); but the conspiracy-theorist inside me mumbles that M$ actually bribes those third-party app authors to discontinue support, in order for Windows users to be forced to cough up their hard-earned money towards new hardware+WinOS... Edited June 14, 2019 by VistaLover 1
amancinocy Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 I will try to notify the concern, but I'm afraid nothing can be done. So far, no drastic steps have been taken. BTW. I edited my previous post to add more security programs with Vista compatibilty.
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