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Jody Thornton

Server 2012 Updates on Windows 8

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On 2/14/2019 at 9:44 AM, Jody Thornton said:

Got this month's updates and I installed the IE10 and Flash updates.

Does anyone know when IE11 for Server 2012 is coming down?  I'm hopeful that I can install it, but then remove the browser portion (just like I do with IE10 on the Add/Remove Components).  I hope so.

 

maybe this spring perhaps :)

must wait a while for IE11 on Srv2012 since MS isn't gonna release it right away (come back in April 2019 and find out if IE11 for Server 2012 R0 shows up on MS Update Catalog)

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/17454/lifecycle-faq-internet-explorer

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*Internet Explorer (IE) 10 will reach end of support on January 31, 2020. From this point forward, IE 11 will be the only supported version of Internet Explorer on Windows Server 2012 and Windows Embedded 8 Standard. IE 11 will be available for piloting starting Spring of 2019.

 

Edited by erpdude8

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On 10/12/2016 at 10:48 AM, greenhillmaniac said:

EDIT: Also, some interesting info: Windows Thin PC, which is a slimmed down version of Windows 7, with only a x86 install option, will have support until 12th October 2021. This means Windows 7 users might have an extra year of x86 support (sorry x64 users, I can't find any obscure Windows 7 variant that has support beyond 2020).

On 2/11/2018 at 10:06 AM, wyxchari said:

Windows 7 Embedded Standard SP1 = October 13, 2020
Windows Embedded POSReady 7 = October 12, 2021

But Windows Embedded POSReady 7 has both x86 and x64 versions and has the same EoS as Windows Thin PC, and its unmodified updates just work, so ...  :yes:

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1 hour ago, dencorso said:

But Windows Embedded POSReady 7 has both x86 and x64 versions and has the same EoS as Windows Thin PC, and its unmodified updates just work, so ...  :yes:

Wow, I made that post quite a while ago... Yes, I've already figured it out regarding POSReady 7.

Both Windows Thin PC and POSReady 7 are derived from Embedded Standard 7, meaning all of the OS is componetized. Updates made only for those specific variants of NT 6.1 don't work on regular W7 but, luckily for us, MS tries to make its job easier and Monthly Rollups are universal for all NT 6.1 variants. Considering they will be selling Extended Support until 2023, I doubt they will start making a distinction between those 2 product lines.

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And here is the repository update for Windows 8.0 for January and February 2019:

  • Replaced Monthly Rollup with the new KB4487025 (located on the root directory of the repository)
  • Replaced Flash Player Security update with KB4487038 (located on the root directory of the repository)
  • Added Security Only Updates, KB4480972 and KB4486993 (located in the folder "/Security Only (Post September 2016)")
  • Replaced Internet Explorer Cumulative Update with KB4486474 (located in the folder "/Security Only (Post September 2016)")
  • Replaced .NET Framework Security and Quality with:
    -KB4483456 for .NET 3.5 SP1 (located in "/.NET Framework 3.5 Updates/Security and Quality Rollup")
    -KB4483454 for .NET 4.5.2 (located in "/.NET Framework 4.5.2 Updates/Security and Quality Rollup")
    -KB4483449 for .NET 4.6.x-4.7.x (located in "/.NET Framework  4.6.x-4.7.x Updates/Security and Quality Rollup")
  • Added .NET Framework September Security Only Updates:
    -KB4480083 and KB4483481 for .NET 3.5 SP1 (located in "/.NET Framework 3.5 Updates/Security Only Updates")
    -KB4480075 and KB4483473 for .NET 4.5.2 (located in "/.NET Framework 4.5.2 Updates/Security Only Updates")
    -KB4480070 and KB4483468 for .NET 4.6.x-4.7.x (located in "/.NET Framework  4.6.x-4.7.x Updates/Security Only Updates")
  • Added extra update KB4490516 (located in "/Extras (Non Security Updates)")

Can't wait to see how IE11 will work on Windows 8.0...

https://mega.nz/#F!ExhDEbDA!pUhzXKVp5-hgzvylW_btfQ

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Posted (edited)
On 3/6/2019 at 7:22 AM, greenhillmaniac said:

Can't wait to see how IE11 will work on Windows 8.0...

Also I want to see if an ARM version of Edge Browser will released for Windows RT 8.1.

(I've never really got a clear answer to this, but where is the best place to post about Surface RT tablets and Windows RT questions?)

 

Edited by Jody Thornton

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6 hours ago, Jody Thornton said:

Also I want to see if an ARM version of Edge Browser will released for Windows RT 8.1.

(I've never really got a clear answer to this, but where is the best place to post about Surface RT tablets and Windows RT questions?)

If they do release an ARM version of Edge, it will probably be ARM64 because of the whole Windows 10 on ARM effort they've recently been pushing. AFAIK Windows 8.x RT was made for ARM32.

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I did find one minor problem with your Win8.0 repository: KB4054542 (.NET 4.7.2) is not compatible with Win8.0 client OS.

Windows8-RT-KB4054542-x86-pkgProperties.txt file says the following:

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ApplicabilityInfo="Windows 8.0 Embedded;Windows 8.0 WinPE;"
Applies to="Windows 6.2"
Build Date="2018/06/07"
Company="Microsoft Corporation"
File Version="1"
Installation Type="FULL"
Installer Engine="Component Based Servicing - WUSA.exe"
Installer Version="6.0.0.0"
KB Article Number="4054542"
Language="ALL"
Package Type="Update"
Processor Architecture="x86"
Product Name="Windows 6.2"
Support Link="http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=4054542"

KB4054542 installs on Win8 embedded & Server 2012 only and not on "normal" win8.0 OS.

Latest version of .NET Framework that can install on "Win8.0 client" is 4.6.2 from KB3181500.

 

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On 4/3/2019 at 1:38 PM, erpdude8 said:

KB4054542 installs on Win8 embedded & Server 2012 only and not on "normal" win8.0 OS.

Latest version of .NET Framework that can install on "Win8.0 client" is 4.6.2 from KB3181500.

Looks can be deceiving, my friend. Just because the embedded PkgProperties on the MSU file says that doesn't mean the update.mum inside the CAB file does ;)

Just to prove my point I went ahead and installed Windows 8.0 Enterprise on VMWare to test installing the latest .NET Framework 4.8 preview update (build 3745).

If you try to install it normally from the executable, it will fail with an unsupported OS message, as you'd expect:
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So I basically extracted the CAB files relating to 8.0 from the executable and installed them through Dism:
6taEuUA.png

And it seemed to go over just fine. Maybe you'd like to try it and see if you get the same results. I haven't tested this extensively, mind you.

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Posted (edited)

It looks like Internet Explorer 11 has been released for Windows Server 2012 and Windows 8 Embedded users as of today: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Windows-IT-Pro-Blog/Bringing-Internet-Explorer-11-to-Windows-Server-2012-and-Windows/ba-p/325297

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Updated 4/16/2019:

Windows Server 2012 and Windows Embedded 8 Standard customers can now begin using Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) in their test environments or pilot rings by downloading “Internet Explorer 11 for Windows Server 2012 for x64 based systems,” “Internet Explorer 11 for Windows Embedded 8 Standard for x64 based systems," or "Internet Explorer 11 for Windows Embedded 8 Standard for x86 based systems” from the Microsoft Update Catalog.

As I have installed Windows Server 2012 alongside my Windows Vista partition recently (for compatibility reasons), I will be downloading and testing out IE11 on it and will post with the results when it is complete. I'll also be testing it on my Windows 8.0 virtual machine... Hopefully it'll work. Wish me luck!

Download IE11 here: Server 2012 x64 (scroll down toward the bottom)  Windows 8 Embedded (go to the third page and scroll down to the bottom for the download)

Edited by WinClient5270
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An update regarding IE11...

For the past few hours, the download links for the Server 2012 and Windows 8 Embedded x64 versions of the browser have been broken, however thanks to @i430VX for finding a working link (it seems the original link contained an error):

Server 2012: http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/updt/2019/04/ie11-win6.2_09d0341148e4d19db1960163df568b9c25180abc.msu

Windows 8 Embedded x64: http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/updt/2019/04/ie11-win6.2_09d0341148e4d19db1960163df568b9c25180abc.msu

(pretty sure they're the same file, but linked them individually just in case)

Anyway, installation went without any issues on Server 2012 x64, and the browser works just as it should:

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However, on Windows 8.0, it looks like the browser will not install :(

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Perhaps there's a way to modify the update itself to install on Windows 8, similar to the method used with Powershell 5.0? :unsure:

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That answers my question WinClient ....  I received the same darned error.  I thought it was because I used Add/Remove Components to remove IE 10.  Crap!

 

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The Easter bunny hasn't forgotten about our favorite NT 6.2 OS:

  • Replaced Monthly Rollup with the new KB4493451 (located on the root directory of the repository)
  • Replaced Flash Player Security update with KB4493478 (located on the root directory of the repository)
  • Added Security Only Updates, KB4489884 and KB4493450 (located in the folder "/Security Only (Post September 2016)")
  • Replaced Internet Explorer Cumulative Update with KB4493435 (located in the folder "/Security Only (Post September 2016)")
  • Added .NET Framework September Security Only Updates:
    -KB4488660 for .NET 3.5 SP1 (located in "/.NET Framework 3.5 Updates")
    -KB4488668 for .NET 4.5.2 (located in "/.NET Framework 4.5.2 Updates")
    -KB4488664 for .NET 4.6.x-4.7.x (located in "/.NET Framework  4.6.x-4.7.x Updates")
  • Added extra update KB4490128 (located in "/Extras (Non Security Updates)")

The sad news of the month is that IE11 is not Windows 8.0 compatible. I tried extracting the MSU package and even the CAB file, but analyzing the update.mum I noticed that they only included support for Server 2012 and Embedded:

<parent>
	<assemblyIdentity name="Microsoft-Windows-ServerCore-Package" version="6.2.9200.16384" processorArchitecture="amd64" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" language="neutral" buildType="release"></assemblyIdentity>
	<assemblyIdentity name="Microsoft-Windows-Embedded-SKU-Foundation-Package" version="6.2.9200.16384" processorArchitecture="amd64" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" language="neutral" buildType="release"></assemblyIdentity>
</parent>

Which means Internet Explorer 10 will only have security updates until the beginning of 2020. I would suggest doing what @Jody Thornton's been doing and disabling IE10 altogether from the "Windows Features" function when the time comes.
As for everything else, the .NET updates are only for adding support for the new Japanese calendar and the new timezone update does not replace previous timezone updates.

https://mega.nz/#F!ExhDEbDA!pUhzXKVp5-hgzvylW_btfQ

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Crap!  I was really hoping someone would pull an Easter miracle and make IE 11 install on to Windows 8.  But here's what I REALLY wanted.

In a perfect world, I would have upgraded IE10 to IE11, and then removed Internet Explorer from Add/Remove Programs.  As it stand right now, I still have Internet Explorer libraries and DLLs on my system since they are used by other applications.  Would I be able to replace those files with ones from IE 11 for Server 2012?

Thanks again greenhillmaniac.  You really help shed some light on this stuff.

:)

 

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Posted (edited)
On 4/5/2019 at 11:21 AM, greenhillmaniac said:

Looks can be deceiving, my friend. Just because the embedded PkgProperties on the MSU file says that doesn't mean the update.mum inside the CAB file does ;)

So I basically extracted the CAB files relating to 8.0 from the executable and installed them through Dism:
 

And it seemed to go over just fine. Maybe you'd like to try it and see if you get the same results. I haven't tested this extensively, mind you.

yup.  I manually extracted the specific cab file and used dism.exe to install it - seems to go quickly than usual though (which meant it installed/updated a few files)

but anyways, .NET 4.8 just came out

also IE11 for Win8 Embedded / Server 2012 R0 from MS support article 4492872 which has some Prerequisites (or IE11 installation may fail, also IE10 must be enabled/installed for the package to upgrade from IE10 to IE11)

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Prerequisites

Before you install this update, you must do either of the following:

Install KB4486474 or KB4487025.

Install the latest cumulative security update for Internet Explorer 10 or the latest monthly rollup for Windows Server 2012 and Windows Embedded 8 Standard.

 

Edited by erpdude8

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1 hour ago, erpdude8 said:

also IE11 for Win8 Embedded / Server 2012 R0 from MS support article 4492872 which has some Prerequisites (or IE11 installation may fail, also IE10 must be enabled/installed for the package to upgrade from IE10 to IE11) 

Unfortunately, it's impossible to install IE11 on regular 8.0, since they only included Server 2012 and Embedded 8 Standard on the update files description, regardless of pre-requisite updates.

On 4/21/2019 at 11:14 AM, greenhillmaniac said:

The sad news of the month is that IE11 is not Windows 8.0 compatible. I tried extracting the MSU package and even the CAB file, but analyzing the update.mum I noticed that they only included support for Server 2012 and Embedded:


<parent>
	<assemblyIdentity name="Microsoft-Windows-ServerCore-Package" version="6.2.9200.16384" processorArchitecture="amd64" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" language="neutral" buildType="release"></assemblyIdentity>
	<assemblyIdentity name="Microsoft-Windows-Embedded-SKU-Foundation-Package" version="6.2.9200.16384" processorArchitecture="amd64" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" language="neutral" buildType="release"></assemblyIdentity>
</parent>

Abbodi1406 also confirmed this in MDL (and he was the one that got Powershell 5.1 to install on Windows 8.0).

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