alacran Posted August 18, 2015 Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) Well it looks every day more people and also sofware companies are starting to try to stop this spying tactics in Win10 see here for more info and download:http://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=NL2262-weblink&utm_campaign=oonewsletter2262 Here's what the program changes when you apply all settings: (all green) SecurityDisable password reveal button[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\CredUI]"DisablePasswordReveal"=dword:00000001Disable user steps recorder[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\AppCompat]"DisableUAR"=dword:00000001Disable telemetry (1 of 3)[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\DiagTrack]"Start"=dword:00000004Disable telemetry (3 of 3)[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\dmwappushsvc]"Start"=dword:00000004Disable telemetry (3 of 3)[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\WMI\AutoLogger\AutoLogger-Diagtrack-Listener]"Start"=dword:00000000Disable WiFi Sense[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\WcmSvc\wifinetworkmanager\features\S-1-5-21-3902212115-2543662138-3061636537-1001]"FeatureStates"=dword:0000033cDisable app acess to wireless connections[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DeviceAccess\Global\{A8804298-2D5F-42E3-9531-9C8C39EB29CE}]"Value"="Deny"Disable app acess to loosely coupled devices[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DeviceAccess\Global\LooselyCoupled]"Value"="Deny"Disable Internet access of Windows Media Digital Rights Management (DRM)[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\WMDRM]"DisableOnline"=dword:00000001Disable Windows Defender[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows Defender]"DisableAntiSpyware"=dword:00000001PrivacyDisable app access to user account information[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DeviceAccess\Global\{C1D23ACC-752B-43E5-8448-8D0E519CD6D6}]"Value"="Deny"Prevent sharing of handwriting data[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\TabletPC]"PreventHandwritingDataSharing"=dword:00000001Disable Inventory Collector[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\AppCompat]"DisableInventory"=dword:00000001Disable Input Personalization (1 of 5)[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Personalization\Settings]"AcceptedPrivacyPolicy"=dword:00000000Disable Input Personalization (2 of 5)[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SettingSync\Groups\Language]"Enabled"=dword:00000000Disable Input Personalization (3 of 5)[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization]"RestrictImplicitInkCollection"=dword:00000001Disable Input Personalization (4 of 5)[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization]"RestrictImplicitTextCollection"=dword:00000001Disable Input Personalization (5 of 5)[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization\TrainedDataStore]"HarvestContacts"=dword:00000000Disable Camera in logon screen[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Personalization]"NoLockScreenCamera"=dword:00000001Disable and resert Cortana (personal assistant)[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Search]"AllowCortana"=dword:00000000Disable transmission of typing information[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Input\TIPC]"Enabled"=dword:00000000Disable and reset advertising ID and info (1 of 2)[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\AdvertisingInfo]"Enabled"=dword:00000000Disable and reset advertising ID and info (2 of 2)[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\AdvertisingInfo]"Enabled"=dword:00000000Disable app notifications[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\PushNotifications]"ToastEnabled"=dword:00000000Disable app access to calendar[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DeviceAccess\Global\{A8804298-2D5F-42E3-9531-9C8C39EB29CE}]"Value"="Deny"Disable app access to camera[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DeviceAccess\Global\{E5323777-F976-4f5b-9B55-B94699C46E44}]"Value"="Deny"Disable app access to localization settings[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DeviceAccess\Global\{BFA794E4-F964-4FDB-90F6-51056BFE4B44}]"Value"="Deny"Disable app access to microphone[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DeviceAccess\Global\{2EEF81BE-33FA-4800-9670-1CD474972C3F}]"Value"="Deny"Disable app access to messages[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DeviceAccess\Global\{992AFA70-6F47-4148-B3E9-3003349C1548}]"Value"="Deny"Disable biometrical features[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Biometrics]"Enabled"=dword:00000000Disable access to local language for browsers[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\International\User Profile]"HttpAcceptLanguageOptOut"=dword:00000001Disable SmartScreen filter for URLs[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\AppHost]"EnableWebContentEvaluation"=dword:00000000Location ServicesDisable funcionality to locate system[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\LocationAndSensors]"DisableLocation"=dword:00000001Disable sensors for locating the system[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\LocationAndSensors]"DisableSensors"=dword:00000001User BehaviorDisable application telemetry (1 of 3)[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\DataCollection]"AllowTelemetry"=dword:00000000Disable application telemetry (2 of 3)[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\DataCollection]"AllowTelemetry"=dword:00000000Disable application telemetry (3 of 3)[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\AppCompat]"AITEnable"=dword:00000000Windows UpdateDisable Windows Update via peer-to-peer (1 of 3)[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DeliveryOptimization]"SystemSettingsDownloadMode"=dword:00000000Disable Windows Update via peer-to-peer (2 of 3)[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DeliveryOptimization\Config]"DODownloadMode"=dword:00000000Disable Windows Update via peer-to-peer (3 of 3)[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\DeliveryOptimization]"DODownloadMode"=dword:00000000Activate deferring of upgrades[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate]"DeferUpgrade"=dword:00000001Disable automatic driver updates through Windows Update[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DriverSearching]"SearchOrderConfig"=dword:00000000Disable automatic Windows Updates[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU]"NoAutoUpdate"=dword:00000001Disable Windows Updates for other products (e.g. Microsoft Office)[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\Services\7971f918-a847-4430-9279-4a52d1efe18d]"RegisteredWithAU"=dword:00000000MiscellaneousDisable feedback reminders (1 of 2)[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Siuf\Rules]"NumberOfSIUFInPeriod"=dword:00000000Disable feedback reminders (2 of 2)[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Siuf\Rules]"NumberOfSIUFInPeriod"=dword:00000000Disable extension of Windows 10 search with Bing[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Search]"BingSearchEnabled"=dword:00000000Disable Microsoft OneDrive[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\OneDrive]"DisableFileSyncNGSC"=dword:00000001 If you want a batch file: reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\CredUI" /v "DisablePasswordReveal" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /freg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\AppCompat" /v "DisableUAR" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /freg add "HKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\DiagTrack" /v "Start" /t REG_DWORD /d "4" /freg add "HKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\dmwappushsvc" /v "Start" /t REG_DWORD /d "4" /freg add "HKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\WMI\AutoLogger\AutoLogger-Diagtrack-Listener" /v "Start" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /freg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\WcmSvc\wifinetworkmanager\features\S-1-5-21-3902212115-2543662138-3061636537-1001" /v "FeatureStates" /t REG_DWORD /d "828" /freg add "HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DeviceAccess\Global\{A8804298-2D5F-42E3-9531-9C8C39EB29CE}" /v "Value" /t REG_SZ /d "Deny" /freg add "HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DeviceAccess\Global\LooselyCoupled" /v "Value" /t REG_SZ /d "Deny" /freg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\WMDRM" /v "DisableOnline" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /freg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows Defender" /v "DisableAntiSpyware" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /freg add "HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DeviceAccess\Global\{C1D23ACC-752B-43E5-8448-8D0E519CD6D6}" /v "Value" /t REG_SZ /d "Deny" /freg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\TabletPC" /v "PreventHandwritingDataSharing" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /freg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\AppCompat" /v "DisableInventory" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /freg add "HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Personalization\Settings" /v "AcceptedPrivacyPolicy" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /freg add "HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SettingSync\Groups\Language" /v "Enabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /freg add "HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization" /v "RestrictImplicitInkCollection" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /freg add "HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization" /v "RestrictImplicitTextCollection" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /freg add "HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\InputPersonalization\TrainedDataStore" /v "HarvestContacts" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /freg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Personalization" /v "NoLockScreenCamera" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /freg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Search" /v "AllowCortana" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /freg add "HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Input\TIPC" /v "Enabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /freg add "HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\AdvertisingInfo" /v "Enabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /freg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\AdvertisingInfo" /v "Enabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /freg add "HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\PushNotifications" /v "ToastEnabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /freg add "HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DeviceAccess\Global\{A8804298-2D5F-42E3-9531-9C8C39EB29CE}" /v "Value" /t REG_SZ /d "Deny" /freg add "HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DeviceAccess\Global\{E5323777-F976-4f5b-9B55-B94699C46E44}" /v "Value" /t REG_SZ /d "Deny" /freg add "HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DeviceAccess\Global\{BFA794E4-F964-4FDB-90F6-51056BFE4B44}" /v "Value" /t REG_SZ /d "Deny" /freg add "HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DeviceAccess\Global\{2EEF81BE-33FA-4800-9670-1CD474972C3F}" /v "Value" /t REG_SZ /d "Deny" /freg add "HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DeviceAccess\Global\{992AFA70-6F47-4148-B3E9-3003349C1548}" /v "Value" /t REG_SZ /d "Deny" /freg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Biometrics" /v "Enabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /freg add "HKCU\Control Panel\International\User Profile" /v "HttpAcceptLanguageOptOut" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /freg add "HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\AppHost" /v "EnableWebContentEvaluation" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /freg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\LocationAndSensors" /v "DisableLocation" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /freg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\LocationAndSensors" /v "DisableSensors" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /freg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\DataCollection" /v "AllowTelemetry" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /freg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\DataCollection" /v "AllowTelemetry" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /freg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\AppCompat" /v "AITEnable" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /freg add "HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DeliveryOptimization" /v "SystemSettingsDownloadMode" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /freg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DeliveryOptimization\Config" /v "DODownloadMode" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /freg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\DeliveryOptimization" /v "DODownloadMode" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /freg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate" /v "DeferUpgrade" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /freg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DriverSearching" /v "SearchOrderConfig" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /freg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU" /v "NoAutoUpdate" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /freg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\Services\7971f918-a847-4430-9279-4a52d1efe18d" /v "RegisteredWithAU" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /freg add "HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Siuf\Rules" /v "NumberOfSIUFInPeriod" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /freg add "HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Siuf\Rules" /v "NumberOfSIUFInPeriod" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /freg add "HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Search" /v "BingSearchEnabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /freg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\OneDrive" /v "DisableFileSyncNGSC" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /f Source: http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/64401-App-O-amp-O-ShutUp10 Best Regards Edited August 18, 2015 by alacran
PinkFreud Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 Discussing this tool in the [Guide] Disable Data Collection in Windows 10 thread: http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/174160-guide-disable-data-collection-in-windows-10/?p=1105925
TELVM Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 Source: http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/64401-App-O-amp-O-ShutUp10 Epic comment: "All these crappy tools that everyone is using is like putting a band-aid on a bullet wound. This is not the answer. The answer is to cut this crap off at the source and tell M$ to stop this crap to begin with." 3
jaclaz Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 (edited) Source: http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/64401-App-O-amp-O-ShutUp10 Epic comment: "All these crappy tools that everyone is using is like putting a band-aid on a bullet wound. This is not the answer. The answer is to cut this crap off at the source and tell M$ to stop this crap to begin with." Yep , as a matter of fact these tools may actually work in favour of MS, it won't be long before the shills will start writing that "If you are really paranoid, and though it is not recommended, you can run tool x or tool y that prevent Windows 10 to send data to Microsoft, and you can thus enjoy almost fully the Windows 10 experience" or something like that, thus minimizing the other issues with the abomination. jaclaz Edited August 19, 2015 by jaclaz
maxXPsoft Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 Source: http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/64401-App-O-amp-O-ShutUp10 Epic comment: "All these crappy tools that everyone is using is like putting a band-aid on a bullet wound. This is not the answer. The answer is to cut this crap off at the source and tell M$ to stop this crap to begin with." Since you know Gabe personally do us a favor and tell him that. I know there was discussion of all this in the Insider and it hit blank wallsI still like the OS and gonna keep but using these tools to eliminate BS is only method of telling them what we think......... 1
TELVM Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 Since you know Gabe personally do us a favor and tell him that ... ^ Now this is sociologically interesting. I guess 'Gabe' is Gabe Newell and you're implying that I'm a shill on Steam's payroll. Correct?
alacran Posted August 20, 2015 Author Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) Discussing this tool in the [Guide] Disable Data Collection in Windows 10 thread: http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/174160-guide-disable-data-collection-in-windows-10/?p=1105925 First: Obviously I didn't see it when I posted this. [App] O&O ShutUp10 You need to login to view this posts content. Second: Here it is the info about how it works and what changes it makes in the registry, which may or may not be of some use for other members (You need to login, in order to have access to MDL post). Epic comment: "All these crappy tools that everyone is using is like putting a band-aid on a bullet wound. This is not the answer. The answer is to cut this crap off at the source and tell M$ to stop this crap to begin with." Yep , as a matter of fact these tools may actually work in favour of MS, it won't be long before the shills will start writing that "If you are really paranoid, and though it is not recommended, you can run tool x or tool y that prevent Windows 10 to send data to Microsoft, and you can thus enjoy almost fully the Windows 10 experience" or something like that, thus minimizing the other issues with the abomination. jaclaz Third: I am not recommending or criticizing this tool. My point here is as said in first post: Well it looks every day more people and also sofware companies are starting to try to stop this spying tactics in Win10 Fourth: As it is usual in all forums any moderator is free to relocate or delete this thread. Best Regards Edited August 20, 2015 by alacran
PinkFreud Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 Discussing this tool in the [Guide] Disable Data Collection in Windows 10 thread: http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/174160-guide-disable-data-collection-in-windows-10/?p=1105925 First: Obviously I didn't see it when I posted this. [App] O&O ShutUp10 You need to login to view this posts content. Second: Here it is the info about how it works and what changes it makes in the registry, which may or may not be of some use for other members (You need to login, in order to have access to MDL post). Epic comment: "All these crappy tools that everyone is using is like putting a band-aid on a bullet wound. This is not the answer. The answer is to cut this crap off at the source and tell M$ to stop this crap to begin with." Yep , as a matter of fact these tools may actually work in favour of MS, it won't be long before the shills will start writing that "If you are really paranoid, and though it is not recommended, you can run tool x or tool y that prevent Windows 10 to send data to Microsoft, and you can thus enjoy almost fully the Windows 10 experience" or something like that, thus minimizing the other issues with the abomination. jaclaz Third: I am not recommending or criticizing this tool. My point here is as said in first post: Well it looks every day more people and also sofware companies are starting to try to stop this spying tactics in Win10 Fourth: As it is usual in all forums any moderator is free to relocate or delete this thread. Best Regards No offense intended, I merely pointed out such as a means of cross-referencing the discussion.
NoelC Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) By the way, you should all know that none of these tools actually shuts Windows 10 up. With all the registry tweaks in place and a hosts file that redirects over 100 addresses said to be Microsoft data collection servers (AND another 17,000 entries from MVPS) to 0.0.0.0, according to my firewall logs I've STILL seen on my otherwise quiet Win 10 System, svchost, rundll, and others such as "SIH (Silent Install Helper) Client" and "Microsoft Feedback SIUF Deployment Manager Client" try to contact a number of servers online just today in the past 4 hours (listed below). I've yet to research them, but to say that Win 10 is chatty online would be an understatement. Possible Windows Update attempts? Possible telemetry? Upload of personal data?---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 104.73.38.54:443157.55.240.220:443157.56.96.58:443172.224.177.145:443172.224.178.197:443172.224.180.140:443178.255.83.1:80178.255.83.2:80192.116.242.20:8023.15.5.197:8023.15.5.213:8023.4.37.163:8023.4.43.27:8023.74.2.58:8023.74.2.88:8064.4.54.116:44365.55.44.108:44366.119.114.157:443 Who knows? More research is needed, and it's simply time consuming. But it's paddling upstream, really. Microsoft has decided the OS, being "cloud" integrated, is simply going to make all kinds of connections online all the time no matter what settings you've chosen. Trying to second guess a team of thousands of engineers is not practical. And there's no guarantee it will work right if they're blocked. Each address amongst the above and the traffic to/from it needs to be researched. Then a decision has to be made about whether to block activity, and testing needs to be done to confirm the system continues to function correctly. That last part is the trick - how can we know whether blocking one of those addresses will not lead to the system being deactivated one day down the line? In short: From what I can see, there is no "easy fix" to this, no magic "app" that instructs Windows not to make online connections. -Noel Edited August 22, 2015 by NoelC
dencorso Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 By the way, you should all know that none of these tools actually shuts Windows 10 up.<snip>how can we know whether blocking one of those addresses will not lead to the system being deactivated one day down the line?<snip> We cannot. That one example of a truly unknowable question. What can be done, be it a 8.1 or at 7SP1, is to draw the line before 10. That cannot be but a personal decision each one has to take on one's own. After one decides to move on to 10, IMO, resistence is futile: assimilation is inevitable.
jaclaz Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 The "philosophical" issue about this (and all others BTW) tool is the "false security" feeling it may provide. Until someone will do a proper, documented, repeatable analysis of all the "phoning home" the stupid 10 does (and that may well be changed at the good MS guys' whim through an "undocumented" update) and of the effect that each and every Registry/tweak/hosts file/firewall actually produce I find it more than a bit "irresponsible" to state (like a lot of people does) that the tool (or the setting/whatever) "fixes" Windows 10 privacy issues, there are already tens of articles by the shills that suggest the disabling of a bunch of settings within the "normal" UI and advertise them as "solving privacy issues". Surely each and every disabled or intercepted/redirected feature decreases the number of possible issues , but this is far from representing any tool as a "solution". @dencorsoAs said elsewhere, the line has already been drawn (actually it has been carved in stone ) in Windows 2000 times, and anything starting from XP (please read as "online activation") onwards represents different shades of gray (though of course the leap from dark grey, aka Windows 8/8.1 to matte black aka Windows 10 is more noticeable) jaclaz 1
NoelC Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) As jaclaz points out, we have been operating under a false sense of security for some time, though the problem has gotten 10x worse (if not more) with Win 10. I have recently adopted a "deny by default" firewall stance with Win 8.1 as well, and while it's nowhere near as chatty online, I blocked it from trying to "phone home" not only to Microsoft but also to Google last night. I have also a Win 7 system that I believe I'll be moving to the more restrictive settings as well, and will see what happens. But never forget, Sinofsky was quite proud of the "telemetry" they would be basing much of the design of Windows 8 and later on - so clearly Windows 7 is also doing it. Lastly - and this is a bit scary - we've already seen Microsoft trying to push out updates to Win 7 that increase its online promiscuity as well (KB3021917, KB3068708 anyone?). Expect that to continue. -Noel Edited August 23, 2015 by NoelC
TELVM Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 ... After one decides to move on to 10, IMO, resistence is futile: assimilation is inevitable ... ^ Agreed. ... I have also a Win 7 system that I believe I'll be moving to the more restrictive settings as well, and will see what happens ... Please don't forget to share the experience. 1
alacran Posted August 23, 2015 Author Posted August 23, 2015 First during install I deselect all related to info going out of the PC, latter after first boot once again did same thing, I also put a very long list in host file redirected to 0.0.0.0, (just in case it blocks some of them) then ran Shutup10 blocking every thing and rebooted.After reboot and make a copy of Firewall Policies ran Windows Firewall Notifier and there were a lot of connections on line, so Shutup10 DO NOT BLOCK all is required.Best Regards
jaclaz Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 ... so Shutup10 DO NOT BLOCK all is required.Sure , that was not at all unexpected and actually it was EXACTLY the core of my previous post . Many "technical journalists" (or "shills" or "mindless jerks", choose the one you see more fit) go around publishing articles saying that a bunch of settings through the UI are "enough" to be not worried about the "phoning home" or that "it is normal". Some smarter users and software companies have developed tools/scripts/etc. to block more of the ways Windows 10 is phoning home and some (including the "Made in Germany" O&O) tout that the tool resolves the issue. BOTH are incorrect (of course to a different extent) Most people, even if suspecting that #1 is (grossly) inaccurate may well trust the tool maker(s) #2, since here we are talking about O&O (but it is not like they are better or worse than other peeps) this:O&O ShutUp10 means you have full control over which comfort functions under Windows 10 you wish to use, and you decide when the passing on of your data goes too far. Using a very simple interface, you decide how Windows 10 should respect your privacy by deciding which unwanted functions should be deactivated. may well induce people to believe that if you disable everything in the tool then nothing will got to MS (which is not the case). At the most one can say that the tool gives you more control (which is not full control), it's just about calling things with their name. jaclaz
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