Extremely slow boot on Windows 10 (90 secondsish)

[Torigas]

Hi all,

I upgrades to Windows 10 pro from my smoothly running windows 8.1 and had issues from the start:

 

For starters, my boot time is almost ten times as long and afterwards the laptop occasionally pauses for about 80 seconds. Nothing reacts anymore and after a while it just continues.

 

I checked the event log and couldn't find anything.

When booting in safe mode, the delays don't seem to happen, so I assume it might be a driver issue.

 

So I did a fresh install from ISO and found out that I have no delays --- until I connected to the internet and windows update downloaded something.

 

I still hope I can salvage the system and don't have to reinstall again and hope I can deactivate windows update.

 

Currently, as the boot dump said, It seems SMSINIT takes so long.. while being idle most the time.

 <interval name="SMSSInit" startTime="1152" endTime="81565" duration="80413">        <perProcess>          <perProcessCPUUsage name="Idle" time="78871" percentOfInterval="98.08">            <cpuUsage priority="0" time="78871" cumulativeTime="78871" ofProcess="100.00" ofInterval="98.08" cumulativeOfProcess="100.00"/>          </perProcessCPUUsage>        </perProcess>        <perPriority>          <perPriorityCPUUsage priority="0" time="78871" ofInterval="98.08">            <cpuUsage process="Idle" time="78871" ofPriority="100.00"/>          </perPriorityCPUUsage>        </perPriority>        <diskIO readBytes="163969536" readOps="4698" readTime="801" avgBytesPerRead="34901" medBytesPerRead="4096"                writeBytes="17604608" writeOps="156" writeTime="157" avgBytesPerWrite="112850" medBytesPerWrite="4096"                totalBytes="181574144" totalOps="4854" totalTime="959">          <byFile>            <file name="SOFTWARE" readBytes="59715584" readOps="46" readTime="107" writeBytes="0" writeOps="0" writeTime="0"                  totalBytes="59715584" totalOps="46" totalTime="107"/>            <file name="atikmdag.sys" readBytes="21622272" readOps="1" readTime="32" writeBytes="0" writeOps="0" writeTime="0"                  totalBytes="21622272" totalOps="1" totalTime="32"/>            <file name="boot_BASE+CSWITCH+DRIVERS+POWER_1_km_premerge.etl" readBytes="0" readOps="0" readTime="0" writeBytes="16777216" writeOps="19" writeTime="28"                  totalBytes="16777216" totalOps="19" totalTime="28"/>            <file name="Netwsw00.sys" readBytes="11739648" readOps="6" readTime="21" writeBytes="0" writeOps="0" writeTime="0"                  totalBytes="11739648" totalOps="6" totalTime="21"/>            <file name="igdkmd64.sys" readBytes="5414912" readOps="2" readTime="11" writeBytes="0" writeOps="0" writeTime="0"                  totalBytes="5414912" totalOps="2" totalTime="11"/>            <file name="$Mft" readBytes="3477504" readOps="849" readTime="105" writeBytes="192512" writeOps="42" writeTime="6"                  totalBytes="3670016" totalOps="891" totalTime="111"/>            <file name="win32kfull.sys" readBytes="3590144" readOps="2" readTime="5" writeBytes="0" writeOps="0" writeTime="0"                  totalBytes="3590144" totalOps="2" totalTime="5"/>            <file name="CHDRT64.sys" readBytes="1617920" readOps="2" readTime="3" writeBytes="0" writeOps="0" writeTime="0"                  totalBytes="1617920" totalOps="2" totalTime="3"/>            <file name="win32kbase.sys" readBytes="1382912" readOps="1" readTime="3" writeBytes="0" writeOps="0" writeTime="0"                  totalBytes="1382912" totalOps="1" totalTime="3"/>            <file name="ntdll.dll" readBytes="1152000" readOps="45" readTime="14" writeBytes="0" writeOps="0" writeTime="0"                  totalBytes="1152000" totalOps="45" totalTime="14"/>            <file name="rpcrt4.dll" readBytes="1089536" readOps="50" readTime="8" writeBytes="0" writeOps="0" writeTime="0"                  totalBytes="1089536" totalOps="50" totalTime="8"/>          </byFile>          <byExtension>            <extension name="(none)" readBytes="62743552" readOps="507" readTime="160" writeBytes="413184" writeOps="67" writeTime="69"                       totalBytes="63156736" totalOps="574" totalTime="229"/>            <extension name=".sys" readBytes="54214144" readOps="292" readTime="122" writeBytes="8192" writeOps="2" writeTime="0"                       totalBytes="54222336" totalOps="294" totalTime="122"/>            <extension name=".dll" readBytes="31078400" readOps="2220" readTime="303" writeBytes="0" writeOps="0" writeTime="0"                       totalBytes="31078400" totalOps="2220" totalTime="303"/>            <extension name=".etl" readBytes="1536" readOps="2" readTime="0" writeBytes="16839168" writeOps="32" writeTime="82"                       totalBytes="16840704" totalOps="34" totalTime="82"/>            <extension name="$Mft" readBytes="3514368" readOps="858" readTime="106" writeBytes="196608" writeOps="43" writeTime="6"                       totalBytes="3710976" totalOps="901" totalTime="112"/>            <extension name=".PNF" readBytes="3020800" readOps="225" readTime="24" writeBytes="0" writeOps="0" writeTime="0"                       totalBytes="3020800" totalOps="225" totalTime="24"/>            <extension name=".mui" readBytes="2605568" readOps="232" readTime="30" writeBytes="0" writeOps="0" writeTime="0"                       totalBytes="2605568" totalOps="232" totalTime="30"/>            <extension name=".exe" readBytes="1895936" readOps="143" readTime="21" writeBytes="0" writeOps="0" writeTime="0"                       totalBytes="1895936" totalOps="143" totalTime="21"/>            <extension name=".cur" readBytes="1098240" readOps="44" readTime="7" writeBytes="0" writeOps="0" writeTime="0"                       totalBytes="1098240" totalOps="44" totalTime="7"/>            <extension name=".ani" readBytes="1014784" readOps="32" readTime="6" writeBytes="0" writeOps="0" writeTime="0"                       totalBytes="1014784" totalOps="32" totalTime="6"/>            <extension name=".nls" readBytes="547328" readOps="18" readTime="3" writeBytes="0" writeOps="0" writeTime="0"                       totalBytes="547328" totalOps="18" totalTime="3"/>          </byExtension>        </diskIO>      </interval>

If anyone has any clues on what could cause that, i'd appreciate help.

[oomek]

You may try to open msconfig and disable the CNG Isolation Service. This service was causing 90 sec delay on my machine. If you are on a wired connection you should be good without it running.

[RJARRRPCGP]

Sounds like "laptop-HDD-degradation-disease". Where the laptop HDD access is slow for some absurd cause and wiping the HDD restores performance, at least temporarily.

 

If the laptop HDD is a Seagate, it's a definite suspect. And I still suspect the HDD, even if it's a WD.

 

If disabling extra services, or programs don't solve the problem, I'm afraid it's the HDD.

Edited August 1, 2015 by RJARRRPCGP

[Torigas]

 

Sounds like "laptop-HDD-degradation-disease". Where the laptop HDD access is slow for some absurd cause and wiping the HDD restores performance, at least temporarily.

 

If the laptop HDD is a Seagate, it's a definite suspect. And I still suspect the HDD, even if it's a WD.

 

If disabling extra services, or programs don't solve the problem, I'm afraid it's the HDD.

 

Thank you!

The Laptop is a Lenovo Edge e520 which I upgraded with a 250 GB Samsung EVO 840 SSD. Right before the WinX upgrade I did have boot times of 12ish seconds.

When I do a boot to safe mode I get boot times around 12 seconds, too.

It's just in normal mode.

 

 

Disabling the isolation service didn't work unfortunately.

 

In fact, I tried disabling all startup items AND all services and still had the slow boot.

 

Only during safe mode, which doesn't load all drivers, I don't get a delay on boot.

[jaclaz]

Most probably (but cannot really say ) nothing has changed in Windows 10 when compared with 8/8.1 so making a full trace like explained here:

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/158252-trace-why-windows-8-boots-shutsdown-or-hibernates-slowly/

may apply as well (to find out the culprit).

 

jaclaz

[Torigas]

Most probably (but cannot really say ) nothing has changed in Windows 10 when compared with 8/8.1 so making a full trace like explained here:

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/158252-trace-why-windows-8-boots-shutsdown-or-hibernates-slowly/

may apply as well (to find out the culprit).

 

jaclaz

Jupp,, thats where I got that XML file in the first post. Unfortunately it didn't really seem to help me much. 

 

Nonetheless, I deinstalled the AMD graphics driver and the bootup was significantly faster. Now I just have to figure out a way to get working graphics drivers =)

 

EDIT: After installing Leshcat drivers the system seems to work again. Until windows decides to install its drivers over the Leshcat ones. 

Seems to be a real issue with winX, my laptops hardware and official drivers (AMD and Microsoft both).

 

Thanks all!

Edited August 3, 2015 by Torigas

[Aloha]

Seems to be a real issue with winX, 

 

Like the way you call it WinX! I intentionally named a drive X: to install W10. Too bad when it boots into W10 it automatically becomes C:!