JorgeA Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 A friend sent this to me today: Microsoft Reveals Real Cost Of 'Free' Windows 10 Phil Gordon Kelly's good work warning about Microsoft's shenanigans is especially valuable, because he writes for a media outlet that reaches a more general, less "techie" audience, and so helps to get the word out to the broader public. --JorgeA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeA Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Like you, I'm exploring making the switch to Linux if and when running Windows 7 becomes untenable.There are really 3 options... Linux, BSD (FreeBSD, OpenBSD or NetBSD) and maybe Illumos (former OpenSolaris).And ... well ... maybe ... Hackintosh ??? I've heard of BSD but not of Illumos (OpenSolaris did sound vaguely familiar). I'll explore those too and see what they're like. Thanks for the tip! --JorgeA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dencorso Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 Microsoft Reveals Real Cost Of 'Free' Windows 10 Thanks Phil! That one is a must read! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dencorso Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 I've heard of BSD but not of Illumos (OpenSolaris did sound vaguely familiar). I'll explore those too and see what they're like. Thanks for the tip!Well, those are the true choices, because they are truly different kernels, so the difference is where it matters. Of course, all accept GNU utilities and various desktop interfaces, like gnome, KDE and the other contemporary ones, like Xfce, and also good old CDE (it's been resurrected, and now is open!), for the old-fashioned.FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD are truly old timers, and really time-proven, too. Apparently, the most up-to-date representative of Illumos is OpenIndiana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glnz Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 pcalvert and dencorso -- I'd like to read that article about the cost of Win 10, but Forbes blocks me since I'm not a subscriber. Is it available anywhere else? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-H Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Strange, I'm not a subscriber to Forbes either, and I can read the article, and all the other articles linked from it, with no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) pcalvert and dencorso -- I'd like to read that article about the cost of Win 10, but Forbes blocks me since I'm not a subscriber. Is it available anywhere else? Thanks.I am not a subscriber as well but I can access it.Maybe it depends from the browser or your location.You may want to copy the link, paste it in a new browser window and then re-paste it and reload the page, my good ol' Opera has issues with the site but Chrome based browsers should work (just checked with Iron). jaclaz Edited February 6, 2016 by jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radish Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 pcalvert and dencorso -- I'd like to read that article about the cost of Win 10, but Forbes blocks me since I'm not a subscriber. Is it available anywhere else? Thanks.Look to the upper right of the webpage - there might be a "Continue to Site >" button that you need to click. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeA Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 pcalvert and dencorso -- I'd like to read that article about the cost of Win 10, but Forbes blocks me since I'm not a subscriber. Is it available anywhere else? Thanks. glnz, are you using an ad blocker? Forbes.com recently tweaked their website to block users who are using ad blockers. I'm using Ghostery on Pale Moon and can visit the site by unblocking just a few ad servers: DoubleClick, LiftDNA, Media.net. I have all the others blocked, and can get in no problem even though I'm not a subscriber. You may want to play around with various combinations of blocked and unblocked servers. --JorgeA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelC Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 LOL... Click [ CONTINUE TO SITE> ] and see... Hey Forbes, take a hint: Your content isn't interesting enough to suffer through the ads. -Noel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeA Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I've heard of BSD but not of Illumos (OpenSolaris did sound vaguely familiar). I'll explore those too and see what they're like. Thanks for the tip!Well, those are the true choices, because they are truly different kernels, so the difference is where it matters. Of course, all accept GNU utilities and various desktop interfaces, like gnome, KDE and the other contemporary ones, like Xfce, and also good old CDE (it's been resurrected, and now is open!), for the old-fashioned.FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD are truly old timers, and really time-proven, too. Apparently, the most up-to-date representative of Illumos is OpenIndiana. Thanks, den. The OpenIndiana screenshot has a definite Windows 98 "look" to it. I'll look around, download some live CDs, play around and get a feel for them. --JorgeA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-H Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Well I'm using Opera 12.17, with the AdBlock extension and the Opera Content Blocker enabled too, and the Forbes articles all still work for me!I'm not even seeing the nags about the blocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelC Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I suspect your blocker may not be perfectly effective at blocking ad, tracking, malware, etc. sites, then... Here's what's specifically blocked on that Forbes page for me:http://b.scorecardresearch.com/beacon.jshttp://stats.g.doubleclick.net/dc.jshttp://www.googletagmanager.com/gtm.js?id=GTM-NMQJM4&l=dataLayerFDChttp://tags.bluekai.com/site/3536?ret=js&phint=channel%3Dads&phint=section%3Dwelcome&phint=member%3D&phint=partner%3Dhttp://contextual.media.net/bidexchange.js?cid=8CUX956JU&_=1454788174081http://rt.liftdna.com/forbes_welcome.jshttp://www.googletagservices.com/tag/js/gpt.js?_=1454788174088http://contextual.media.net/amedianet.js?cid=8CU2T3HV4&fpurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.forbes.com%2Fsites%2Fgordonkelly%2F2016%2F02%2F05%2Ffree-windows-10-true-cost%2F&frurl=&_=1454788174089Yeah, I want all of them to have information about what I'm doing online. NOT -Noel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techie007 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) A friend sent this to me today: Microsoft Reveals Real Cost Of 'Free' Windows 10 pcalvert and dencorso -- I'd like to read that article about the cost of Win 10, but Forbes blocks me since I'm not a subscriber. Is it available anywhere else? Thanks. LOL... Click [ CONTINUE TO SITE> ] and see... Hey Forbes, take a hint: Your content isn't interesting enough to suffer through the ads. -Noel Same here, and since I'm using a HOSTS file on my router like you, it's not even easy to unblock whatever it is that they're checking for. I have found that Forbes appears to do this for some articles and not for others, and from certain sites and not from others. If you want to read the article, copy its URL to the clipboard, open a new tab, type "forbes.com" into the address bar, and press [Enter]. The Forbes homepage should load right up. Then paste the address to the article into the address bar and hit [Enter]. The page should open right up despite the ad-blocking (at least that works for me in Firefox). www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/02/05/free-windows-10-true-cost/ Edited February 6, 2016 by Techie007 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dencorso Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 The OpenIndiana screenshot has a definite Windows 98 "look" to it. That's because the desktop environment is CDE. On unix, the look is fully dependent on the desktop environment alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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