SD73 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I don't know if I should panic quite yet. I installed those two and tried it again and no love. Then I figured I'd reboot just to be safe and retry it again and I'm in the same perpetual checking state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destro Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) KB4050795 -- "Unexpected error from external database driver" error when you create or open Microsoft Excel .xls files http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2017/11/windowsxp-kb4050795-x86-embedded-enu_8954bcf9fdfc26417abf2b27725a2434f7ab038b.exe KB4047206 -- Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2017/11/ie8-windowsxp-kb4047206-x86-embedded-enu_1926ed6f44da602de6454a2226f4f528f20c43b7.exe KB4048968 -- 2017-11 Security Update for Windows Server 2008 and Windows XP Embedded http://download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/secu/2017/10/windowsxp-kb4048968-x86-embedded-enu_ab6f62f99b8c12c77669875735ee6143d3bc74b7.exe Security Update for WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4047211) http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2017/11/windowsxp-kb4047211-x86-embedded-enu_217f80951ee111cf78ea67a854c2919ddc94dceb.exe Security Update for WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4048970) http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2017/11/windowsxp-kb4048970-x86-embedded-enu_aaacd2cae6ec37fb9f89e0bb8253a56da31ea53b.exe Microsoft Security Advisory 4053440 Securely opening Microsoft Office documents that contain Dynamic Data Exchange (DDE) fieldshttps://technet.microsoft.com/library/security/4053440 Description of the security update for Excel 2007: November 14, 2017 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4011199/descriptionofthesecurityupdateforexcel2007november14-2017 https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=56233 Microsoft Office Compatibility Pack Service Pack 3 https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=56225 https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=56249 Explains why win update is stuck. References https://www.ghacks.net/2017/11/14/microsoft-security-updates-november-2017-release/ Edited November 15, 2017 by Destro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Horror Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 12 hours ago, heinoganda said: Compatibility Pack Security Update for Microsoft Office Compatibility Pack Service Pack 3 (KB4011265)Security Update for Microsoft Office Compatibility Pack Service Pack 3 (KB4011205) These two updates replace troublesome KB4011064 and KB3213647 i mentioned before. So i think, now they must be installed manually (along with IE cumulative update) to stop "endless search for updates". I'll check this today. BTW: these two updates replace 30 older updates each, and the new IE cumulative replaces 31. Let me mention that "endless search" started with IE cumulative two months ago. So, i assume proved that any update that replace 29+ older updates is troublesome for the current version of XP WUA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destro Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Theres an update for just regular office 2007 also, people who have office 2007 should manually download it if you want to receive updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Horror Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) Just as I expected, manually installing KB4047206 (Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer), KB4011064, and KB3213647 (new Microsoft Office Compatibility Pack updates) was enough to stop "endless search" for me. I do not use MS Office 2007, so don't know which (if any) of its updates are troublesome also, sorry. Counting replaced updates for each one manually is a little hard task because MS Updates catalog website shows only 4 rows of the "this update replaces these:..." list at a time and i do not know a better way of retrieve this information. UPD: I found the way - to copy-paste all the list to any text editor. Now i can put forward a hypothesis: KB4011266 and KB4011199 are "bad" and need to be installed manually (in addition to the three other "bad" updates i mention above). KB4011203 and KB4011276 are "good", so they may be founded and installed automatically after you install all the "bad" updates that your system needs. Will someone check this? Edited November 15, 2017 by Yellow Horror Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heinoganda Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 10 hours ago, SD73 said: Then I figured I'd reboot just to be safe and retry it again and I'm in the same perpetual checking state. Disable automatic updates first, restart the PC, manual installation of cumulative update of IE8 (KB4047206), Security Update for Microsoft Office Compatibility Pack Service Pack 3 (KB4011265) and Security Update for Microsoft Office Compatibility Pack Service Pack 3 (KB4011205). After these updates are installed, the search should work properly with IE8 under Microsoft Update. If there are still problems, send me a PM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD73 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 hour ago, heinoganda said: Disable automatic updates first, restart the PC, manual installation of cumulative update of IE8 (KB4047206), Security Update for Microsoft Office Compatibility Pack Service Pack 3 (KB4011265) and Security Update for Microsoft Office Compatibility Pack Service Pack 3 (KB4011205). After these updates are installed, the search should work properly with IE8 under Microsoft Update. If there are still problems, send me a PM. I think you have the key there. But I left mine to run overnight to since i didn't see your turning off the Automatic Updates suggestions. When I looked this morning it found the XP Updates, and even the IE8 one that I had already installed. After I rebooted and turned off Automatic Updates it went through the manual check process fast, but didn't find any other updates. I suppose that makes sense since i have Office 2003, and not 2007. I thought maybe some of the updates would affect the older Office version but apparently not. When I ran Belarc Advisor it found 2 missing updates. The first one I've had all along and discarded as I thought it was just that annoying get of XP message Microsoft loved the broadcast. I'm assuming the second one is the same but for Office? 1) EOL-MICROSOFT-WINXP 2) EOL-MICROSOFT-OFFICE03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dencorso Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, SD73 said: When I ran Belarc Advisor it found 2 missing updates. The first one I've had all along and discarded as I thought it was just that annoying get of XP message Microsoft loved the broadcast. I'm assuming the second one is the same but for Office? 1) EOL-MICROSOFT-WINXP 2) EOL-MICROSOFT-OFFICE03 Sure! You may ignore those two all right. If installed they'd just nag you and serve no other purpose. You're better without the two of 'em. Great to hear your system is OK now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD73 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, dencorso said: Sure! You may ignore those two all right. If installed they'd just nag you and serve no other purpose. You're better without the two of 'em. Great to hear your system is OK now! Thanks! It's okay because of guys like you and Mr. H! Had I have been left on my own to keep my pc updated it would have burst into flames years ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Horror Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 It takes about 1.5 hours on a 3.2 GHz CPU to find missing KB4047206 (IE Cumulative update) only. Assuming that other "bad" updates would take the same time, a PC with XP and Office 2007 installed needs more than 7 hours to finish its search this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glnz Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) Den shamed made me for always being the last one into the water (although I normally prefer swimming after the sharks are well fed), so I ran the updates ASAP last night BEFORE Dave-H gave us the "all clear". Was a bumpy process - not speedy. First, Belarc shows the following, which I had first downloaded and installed manually from the links above: KB4011265 on 11/14/2017 KB4047206-IE8 on 11/15/2017 Second, "Review Your Update History" shows me the following, and these are what came in through the yellow shield after the two above: Windows XP Embedded Security Update for WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4047211) Wednesday, November 15, 2017 Automatic Updates Windows XP Embedded 2017-11 Security Update for Windows XP Embedded SP3 for x86-based Systems (KB4048968) Wednesday, November 15, 2017 Automatic Updates Windows XP Embedded Security Update for WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4048970) Wednesday, November 15, 2017 Automatic Updates Office 2007 Security Update for Microsoft Office Compatibility Pack Service Pack 3 (KB4011205) Wednesday, November 15, 2017 Automatic Updates Windows XP Embedded Security Update for WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4050795) Wednesday, November 15, 2017 Automatic Updates Third - weird man - Belarc also shows the following WITHOUT A DATE - THE DATE IS BLANK !!!!!!!: KB4011205 So - do I have everything, or did I leave my umbrella, my right glove and my homework in the taxi? And what about that blank date? - that's new - never before. Edited November 15, 2017 by glnz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heinoganda Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 52 minutes ago, SD73 said: When I ran Belarc Advisor it found 2 missing updates I would like to know which updates have been reported as missing by Belarc Advisor to detect a possible conflict with an update after April 2014. @dencorso What I do not understand is that the users know that this problem with the svchost CPU usage is repeated in almost every month and still have automatic updates enabled! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dencorso Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 18 minutes ago, heinoganda said: @dencorso What I do not understand is that the users know that this problem with the svchost CPU usage is repeated in almost every month and still have automatic updates enabled! That's truly an unsolvable mystery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heinoganda Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, dencorso said: That's truly an unsolvable mystery! For me it's not a mystery, but like a record hanging in one place! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD73 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 2 hours ago, heinoganda said: I would like to know which updates have been reported as missing by Belarc Advisor to detect a possible conflict with an update after April 2014. @dencorso What I do not understand is that the users know that this problem with the svchost CPU usage is repeated in almost every month and still have automatic updates enabled! They are listed as... HOTFIX ID: EOL-MIICROSOFT-WINXP EOL-MIICROSOFT-OFFICE03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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