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Any special trick to get the symbols to download correctly. I have a donate key and have never had a problem updating until today after install the Nov Rollup update.

 

I can only suggest trying again.  I've had test systems where I've had to restart DWM a number of times before the symbols loaded correctly.  I think the problem must be that with all the updates Microsoft's servers are probably becoming overwhelmed.  I got the update when it was not very old and probably not that many people were hitting the servers yet.  That being said, post the relevant portions of your debug.log file to make sure something else is not going wrong.

 

I think I have to adapt to restart dwm.exe every boot :-(

 

BigMuscle, I suggest that if you want to change your software to restart DWM, that you please do it 1) only if you detect hybrid boot and 2) only on a particular setting in the registry (which may be the default).  As someone who has no need for the restart (because of having disabled hybrid boot, which honestly is the REAL solution here), I know I would not appreciate it if DWM were restarted forcibly when it didn't need to be.

 

-Noel

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Any special trick to get the symbols to download correctly. I have a donate key and have never had a problem updating until today after install the Nov Rollup update.

 

 

I can confirm this too. The console window comes up saying that it is downloading symbols, but the download breaks before reaching 100%. In short, the symbols are not being downloaded correctly/fully.

 

As @noelc states above, this could be a temporary issue with MS' servers.

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Indeed, same here and log shows:
 
[2014-11-22 12:18:52][0x6C0:0x6C4] Donation key loaded[2014-11-22 12:18:52][0x6C0:0x6C4] Machine ID: ...[2014-11-22 12:18:52][0x6C0:0x6C4] Loading settings (flags = 0x1) from HKEY 0x0000000000000000 for session #1[2014-11-22 12:18:52][0x6C0:0x6C4] Aero Glass for Win8.1 v1.2.5 x64 correctly loaded (C:\AeroGlass\DWMGlass.dll).[2014-11-22 12:18:52][0x6C0:0x6DC] dwmcore.dll version 6.3.9600.17415[2014-11-22 12:18:52][0x96C:0x970] Installing DWM hook...[2014-11-22 12:18:53][0x96C:0x970] User: SYSTEM[2014-11-22 12:18:53][0x96C:0x970] Module: C:\AeroGlass\DWMGlass.dll[2014-11-22 12:20:39][0x6C0:0x6DC] udwm.dll version 6.3.9600.17415[2014-11-22 12:24:00][0x6C0:0x6DC] DWM incompatibility error 0x1F7
 
And screen-shot of the error I get on boot-up is attached.
 
Update: OK, I was able to grab symbols using Process Explorer. :)
 
Download Symbol Files Here For Windows 8.1 x64 With KB3000850 (The Optional November Rollup):
 
 
Download Mirrors:ask me since copyright
 
 
Password: AeroGlass
 
Simply extract files to: C:\AeroGlass\symbols
 
After a reboot you should see in Debug.log:
 
 
[2014-11-22 12:52:09][0x674:0x678] Donation key loaded[2014-11-22 12:52:09][0x674:0x678] Machine ID: ...[2014-11-22 12:52:09][0x674:0x678] Loading settings (flags = 0x1) from HKEY 0x0000000000000000 for session #1[2014-11-22 12:52:09][0x674:0x678] Aero Glass for Win8.1 v1.2.5 x64 correctly loaded (C:\AeroGlass\DWMGlass.dll).[2014-11-22 12:52:10][0x674:0x694] dwmcore.dll version 6.3.9600.17415[2014-11-22 12:52:10][0x674:0x694] udwm.dll version 6.3.9600.17415[2014-11-22 12:52:10][0x674:0x694] Symbols loaded from external files: 0x1F7[2014-11-22 12:52:10][0x674:0x694] Could not connect to AeroHost (2 - The system cannot find the file specified.)[2014-11-22 12:52:10][0x674:0x694] AeroHost timed out.[2014-11-22 12:52:10][0x934:0x938] Installing DWM hook...[2014-11-22 12:52:10][0x674:0x678] AeroHost timed out.[2014-11-22 12:52:10][0x934:0x938] User: SYSTEM[2014-11-22 12:52:11][0x934:0x938] Module: C:\AeroGlass\DWMGlass.dll

 

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Ok, in that case then you can use SymChk then to download the 3 files:

symchk /r C:\AeroGlass /s SRV*c:\symbols\*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols

Or just download all the symbols and extract the files you need:

 

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg463028#Download_windows

 

Well, why not...

 

See my blog.. ;) hint: same as my user name .com 

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On several occasions people have reported trouble with Aero Glass failing to automatically download symbols, yet folks able to succeed at doing it other ways. 

 

So I guess the real question is this:

 

Is there a bug in the Aero Glass auto-download process that could be fixed, or different servers that could be accessed, that would make the auto-download process more reliable / robust?

 

-Noel

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I've turned off the PC Saturday and this Monday morning Aero Glass is not working. (I have the donate key.)

I get the "incompatibility issue" window with the option to dl symbols.

 

When I press "retry" to get the symbols, the window goes away for several seconds and comes back again.

It was working fine for months, and last time it got the symbols right away.

How odd.

 

I will try to get the symbols manually but I'm bit lost as where to place them.

I have a c:\AeroGlass\symbols directory

and also C:\Program Files (x86)\AeroGlass\symbols

They have different files.

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Is there a bug in the Aero Glass auto-download process that could be fixed, or different servers that could be accessed, that would make the auto-download process more reliable / robust?

Of course, there may always be some bug, but because the code is just took from MSDN, I've been using it for ages and never had any problems with it, I don't think that any problems could be caused by the bug. Connection is the most common cause of all problems - if symbol downloading fails, the file download.error will be created in Symbols folder. The other common problem is user's incorrect setup - many users install Aero Glass into non-writeable location (regardless what's written in the guide) and, of course, symbols downloading will fail in such case.

btw, symbols downloading sometimes fails even in Visual Studio.

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Your assessment is probably right, BigMuscle.  I've personally seen only failures to load new symbols for a short time (as much as a few days) after a new OS release, but always (if I wasn't the first to find out) when someone has said the symbols have become available the next run has auto-loaded them.  With KB3000850 I installed it pretty early - hours after it came out - and the first bootup (on two different systems) loaded the symbols correctly.

 

But my troubleshooter mind always asks the questions.  :)

 

-Noel

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It is also important not to mix several versions of dbghelp.dll and symsrv.dll together, because they are incompatible between themselves. It means that if someone changes one of the files to the wrong version then only local symbols will be loaded and symbol server connection will not work (without reporting any error).

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just wanted to let you know that your GUI application, while being pretty epic, has the error of pushing the blur back to 9 regardless of it being higher or lower than than as soon as it is closed. you can circumvent this by killing the process either with task manager or, like I rather do it, with tools ike SuperF4.

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Yes, I've seen that glitch too.  Glad you reported it, My1, I had forgotten to do so.

 

BigMuscle, do you have an updated version of your GUI tool?  Even with Win 10 I've found the old version you published a very handy thing for helping get the colors and transparencies of everything just right.

 

By the way, there are a couple of new Windows Updates for Win 10, one of which is non-trivial.  As usual, the "More Info" link doesn't go anywhere useful, though they may fix that as they often do.  The good news is that these updates don't break the existing symbol dependencies of Aero Glass.

 

-Noel

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