Pawbrotm Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Just look: the first usable version for Win8 displayed a message every two hours => users complained that it was too often => I changed to 6 hours => it was too often => I changed to 12 hours => it was two often => so I changed to "only on startup" => it disturbed user's login => I added a small delay => it was disturbing, because it displayed too late => I lowered delay => users still complain that there is popup.Because every popup is a bad idea in general. What is a point of it now? It was good in beta as a reminder - not a daily-driver software, don't use it constantly. But in final version it is only to make people pay for software - which I wouldn't mind if it would be clear from the beginning - it's a paid software and this is a demo version which shows you how it is working.Users will complain that free version does not download symbols automatically. And guess what? Look several pages back and users are complaining about symbols.Why? Because there is no instructions how to download it. For now it looks like this - you download and install the software and Boom, it's not working because lack of symbols. OK, so where I can find them? I don't know dear user, find it yourself. You have to search for instructions. Not a big problem for me, but it's definately not user-friendly. Just include an instruction how to get symbols manually on the website and it would be fine. There is a placeholder for symbols download instruction on the website. It's going in good direction. Edited January 29, 2014 by Pawbrotm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmuscle Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 Provide screenshot of your regedit so we can be sure. Also enable verbose logging and then provide debug.log. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sberdes Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Provide screenshot of your regedit so we can be sure. Also enable verbose logging and then provide debug.log.I know how to get to it. how do I add it in this forum. it say add your content. But... how do I upload that content. Sorry for being such a noob at this. ha ha.Verbose logging? I tried using Aero glass configutor and it said access was deniedhere is the debug.log[2014-01-27 14:44:32][0x1378:0x2438] Installing DWM hook...[2014-01-27 14:44:32][0x1378:0x2438] Module: C:\AeroGlass\dwmglass.dll[2014-01-27 14:44:32][0x155C:0x2144] Donation key not loaded (2)[2014-01-27 14:44:32][0x155C:0x2144] Machine ID: MXV6NSL2H5QYUL2DDMCCL3ZSJIBLN5H25ELJBZ7ISLD4BMVY[2014-01-27 14:44:32][0x155C:0x19E8] CSettingsManager not found, running in LIMITED MODE![2014-01-27 15:09:17][0x670:0x674] Installing DWM hook...[2014-01-27 15:09:17][0x670:0x674] Module: C:\AeroGlass\dwmglass.dll[2014-01-27 15:09:17][0x2C0:0xC20] Donation key not loaded (2)[2014-01-27 15:09:17][0x2C0:0xC20] Machine ID: MXV6NSL2H5QYUL2DDMCCL3ZSJIBLN5H25ELJBZ7ISLD4BMVY[2014-01-27 15:09:17][0x2C0:0xC24] CSettingsManager not found, running in LIMITED MODE![2014-01-27 15:11:08][0x7BC:0x7C0] Installing DWM hook...[2014-01-27 15:11:09][0x7BC:0x7C0] Module: C:\AeroGlass\dwmglass.dll[2014-01-27 15:11:09][0x54:0x10BC] Donation key not loaded (2)[2014-01-27 15:11:09][0x54:0x10BC] Machine ID: MXV6NSL2H5QYUL2DDMCCL3ZSJIBLN5H25ELJBZ7ISLD4BMVY[2014-01-27 15:11:09][0x54:0x10C0] CSettingsManager not found, running in LIMITED MODE![2014-01-27 22:20:01][0x680:0x684] Installing DWM hook...[2014-01-27 22:20:02][0x680:0x684] Module: C:\AeroGlass\dwmglass.dll[2014-01-27 22:20:02][0x3B0:0xD84] Donation key not loaded (2)[2014-01-27 22:20:02][0x3B0:0xD84] Machine ID: MXV6NSL2H5QYUL2DDMCCL3ZSJIBLN5H25ELJBZ7ISLD4BMVY[2014-01-27 22:20:02][0x3B0:0xD98] CSettingsManager not found, running in LIMITED MODE![2014-01-27 22:26:00][0x7DC:0x7E4] Installing DWM hook...[2014-01-27 22:26:00][0x7DC:0x7E4] Module: C:\AeroGlass\dwmglass.dll[2014-01-27 22:26:00][0x3D8:0xD18] Donation key not loaded (2)[2014-01-27 22:26:00][0x3D8:0xD18] Machine ID: MXV6NSL2H5QYUL2DDMCCL3ZSJIBLN5H25ELJBZ7ISLD4BMVY[2014-01-27 22:26:01][0x3D8:0xD1C] CSettingsManager not found, running in LIMITED MODE![2014-01-28 12:36:18][0x6B8:0x6BC] Installing DWM hook...[2014-01-28 12:36:18][0x6B8:0x6BC] Module: C:\AeroGlass\dwmglass.dll[2014-01-28 12:36:19][0x378:0xF78] Donation key not loaded (2)[2014-01-28 12:36:19][0x378:0xF78] Machine ID: MXV6NSL2H5QYUL2DDMCCL3ZSJIBLN5H25ELJBZ7ISLD4BMVY[2014-01-28 12:36:19][0x378:0xF80] CSettingsManager not found, running in LIMITED MODE![2014-01-28 12:39:50][0x7C4:0x7C8] Installing DWM hook...[2014-01-28 12:39:50][0x7C4:0x7C8] Module: C:\AeroGlass\dwmglass.dll[2014-01-28 12:39:50][0x3C4:0xC74] Donation key not loaded (2)[2014-01-28 12:39:50][0x3C4:0xC74] Machine ID: MXV6NSL2H5QYUL2DDMCCL3ZSJIBLN5H25ELJBZ7ISLD4BMVY[2014-01-28 12:39:50][0x3C4:0xC78] CSettingsManager not found, running in LIMITED MODE![2014-01-28 20:30:36][0x8A4:0x18C] Installing DWM hook...[2014-01-28 20:30:36][0x8A4:0x18C] Module: C:\AeroGlass\dwmglass.dll[2014-01-28 20:30:36][0x21C8:0x2268] Donation key not loaded (2)[2014-01-28 20:30:36][0x21C8:0x2268] Machine ID: MXV6NSL2H5QYUL2DDMCCL3ZSJIBLN5H25ELJBZ7ISLD4BMVY[2014-01-28 20:30:36][0x21C8:0x2324] CSettingsManager not found, running in LIMITED MODE![2014-01-28 20:41:39][0x1C30:0x1EAC] Donation key not loaded (2)[2014-01-28 20:41:39][0x1C30:0x1EAC] Machine ID: MXV6NSL2H5QYUL2DDMCCL3ZSJIBLN5H25ELJBZ7ISLD4BMVY[2014-01-28 20:41:39][0x1C30:0x15E4] CoCreateInstance(CLSID_WICImagingFactory, NULL, CLSCTX_INPROC_SERVER, IID_PPV_ARGS(&pImageFactory)) failed with 0x800401F0[2014-01-28 20:41:39][0x1C30:0x15E4] CSettingsManager not found, running in LIMITED MODE![2014-01-28 20:46:56][0x3CC:0x2340] Installing DWM hook...[2014-01-28 20:46:56][0x3CC:0x2340] Module: C:\AeroGlass\dwmglass.dll[2014-01-28 20:46:56][0x17CC:0x2330] Donation key not loaded (2)[2014-01-28 20:46:56][0x17CC:0x2330] Machine ID: MXV6NSL2H5QYUL2DDMCCL3ZSJIBLN5H25ELJBZ7ISLD4BMVY[2014-01-28 20:46:57][0x17CC:0x1C98] CSettingsManager not found, running in LIMITED MODE![2014-01-28 23:09:11][0x8A4:0x1034] Donation key not loaded (2)[2014-01-28 23:09:11][0x8A4:0x1034] Machine ID: MXV6NSL2H5QYUL2DDMCCL3ZSJIBLN5H25ELJBZ7ISLD4BMVY[2014-01-28 23:09:11][0x8A4:0x1BB0] CoCreateInstance(CLSID_WICImagingFactory, NULL, CLSCTX_INPROC_SERVER, IID_PPV_ARGS(&pImageFactory)) failed with 0x800401F0[2014-01-28 23:09:11][0x8A4:0x1BB0] CSettingsManager not found, running in LIMITED MODE![2014-01-28 23:11:36][0x20C0:0x124C] Donation key not loaded (2)[2014-01-28 23:11:36][0x20C0:0x124C] Machine ID: MXV6NSL2H5QYUL2DDMCCL3ZSJIBLN5H25ELJBZ7ISLD4BMVY[2014-01-28 23:11:36][0xFE0:0x11F0] Donation key not loaded (2)[2014-01-28 23:11:36][0xFE0:0x11F0] Machine ID: MXV6NSL2H5QYUL2DDMCCL3ZSJIBLN5H25ELJBZ7ISLD4BMVY[2014-01-28 23:11:36][0x20C0:0xB04] CoCreateInstance(CLSID_WICImagingFactory, NULL, CLSCTX_INPROC_SERVER, IID_PPV_ARGS(&pImageFactory)) failed with 0x800401F0[2014-01-28 23:11:36][0x20C0:0xB04] CSettingsManager not found, running in LIMITED MODE![2014-01-28 23:11:37][0xFE0:0x1844] CSettingsManager not found, running in LIMITED MODE![2014-01-28 23:31:49][0x1248:0x594] Donation key not loaded (2)[2014-01-28 23:31:49][0x1248:0x594] Machine ID: MXV6NSL2H5QYUL2DDMCCL3ZSJIBLN5H25ELJBZ7ISLD4BMVY[2014-01-28 23:31:49][0x1248:0x227C] CoCreateInstance(CLSID_WICImagingFactory, NULL, CLSCTX_INPROC_SERVER, IID_PPV_ARGS(&pImageFactory)) failed with 0x800401F0[2014-01-28 23:31:49][0x1248:0x227C] CSettingsManager not found, running in LIMITED MODE! Edited January 29, 2014 by sberdes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higH1 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I have to agree that the donation is forced, whether you want to admit it or not. If you want users to pay, then sell the software and give the support for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmutcheese Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Free software with a watermark = accept it and be graceful or do not use it if it bothers you that much or even better donate a few penny's and STFU.Bet you waste more on cigs/drugs/alcohol each day/week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSUser Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) BigMuscle, you really do not even need to respond to the ingrates who complain about the most minimal inconveniences. A single notification dialog and a watermark is worth taking the time to complain? Really? The simple, direct answer to anyone who finds the startup dialog or watermark upsetting is this: If you don't like the way it works, don't use it.The whiners do not understand the level of effort you are putting into this to ensure it doesn't cause problems on their systems. They just see something valuable and drop into "I want, I want, wahhhh!" Not one of them could create what you've done themselves.In fact, you're one of the few people in the world - maybe the only one - who could have pulled it off. Trust me, your excellent work is very much appreciated by the silent majority, who may never have moved to this ridiculous Windows 8 if not for things like your Aero Glass for Win 8.Don't let a few whiners spoil it for you. You deserve many congratulations and kudos for doing this.-NoelWell said Noel,maybe a mod should cleanup this thread or people should donate 3€ and be happy that bigmuscle made this eyecandy for all of us in his private free time...P.s. I'm really sick of reading all this BS about donation. Post something useful, pea counters... Edited January 29, 2014 by MSUser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelter Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 !! Dirty "hack" incoming !!Running taskkill /f /im dwm.exe as administrator is a quick and dirty way to get rid of the blacktitle.Put it in a .bat file for easy access. Not entirely sure how to make run as administrator by default tho', I haven't looked into it (specifying user and password args to taskkill doesn't help). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmuscle Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 And this is the problem. If it would be like you describe it it would be OK. But here you actually expect something when donating.Yes, this is the problem, but the problem of user who expect something. Website clearly states that user is not eligible to get something. Because donating is the only way to get the software fully working.The software is fully working even without donation. Could we say that it does something which user does not expect? No, we can't, because software everything which it says. If user does not agree, he should not install it at all. It is. Nobody normal complains about some beta reminders built-in, because it's beta - test software.Ha ha. Do you when this all started? Read through the forum. Users complained even when the first preview showed console window with debug messages. So what I will get after donating 2€? Yes, nothing.Did you even try that? Probably not, because user will normally get a key even for 2€. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace2 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 maybe a mod should cleanup this thread or people should donate 3€ and be happy that bigmuscle made this eyecandy for all of us in his private free time.,,mod have cleaned up this thread, but it looks like some mod agree with some of the opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hancoque Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I think there's a distinctive point where the behaviour of Aero Glass crosses the line from donationware to nagware. Get rid of the desktop watermark and only show the pop-up once after installation. Everything else is just too much to justify it as donationware. Either nag less or call it what it is: nagware. The problem is not that you want money for it. The price is fine in my opinion. The problem is the deceiving choice of words. Personally I couldn't care less as I have already purchased enough licenses. But I'm not satisfied with the way this software is advertised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmutcheese Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Do not use it and look elsewhere for Mods then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince00 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 HelloI have just installed windows AeroGlass in 64bit 8.1 but it does not work and dwm.exe aerohost.exe are present in the task manager but no transparency, I added the registry key HKLM \ SOFTWARE \ Microsoft \ Windows \ DWM but not always the same transparency manually I also enabled AppInit_DLLs C: \ AeroGlass \ DWMGlass.dll LoadAppInit_DLL = 1 and created RequireSignedAppInit_DLLs = 0 I forgot some thing? thank you for your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace2 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Do not use it and look elsewhere for Mods then.May i ask who your POST is for ?I myself don't use DWMGlass.dll, i only test DWMGlass.dll to help others, i use WinaeroGlass.exe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higH1 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Free software with a watermark = accept it and be graceful or do not use it if it bothers you that much or even better donate a few penny's and STFU.Bet you waste more on cigs/drugs/alcohol each day/week. Permanent watermark. If it is free, give it free. If the only way to work around limitations is paying, then call it what it is. And if you want to kiss someone's a**, then do as you please. Edited January 29, 2014 by higH1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmuscle Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 If it is free, give it free. So the software is not FREELY available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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