Monroe Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I don't use an antivirus program myself, however came across this article for people that like using them.Most antivirus programs to support Windows XP well past its own end date01/16/2014 ... 5 hours agohttp://www.neowin.net/news/most-antivirus-programs-to-support-windows-xp-well-past-its-own-end-dateOn Wednesday, Microsoft announced that it will continue to provide antivirus signatures for its free Security Essentials program until at least July 2015. Now a new survey of 29 antivirus software companies shows that most of them will continue to support Windows XP for at least two more years, and in some cases even longer.The list was complied by the independent antivirus testing firm AV-TEST, and shows that only Symantec has yet to provide any information about when their Windows XP support will end. Most of the companies have yet to offer specific support end dates for Windows XP, with many saying that it won't end for at least two more years. Microsoft is still planning to stop providing all security and bug fix updates for the OS on April 8th, over 12 years after it launched.There are a few antivirus companies on the list that have set specific end dates for Windows XP antivirus support, besides Microsoft. Avira and ThreatTracker will stop on April 2015, while Sophos shuts down its Windows XP definitions in September 2015. Bitdefender says it will end support for consumers om January 2016, and for corporate customers on January 2017. Trend Micro stops supporting Windows XP in January 2017 and Kaspersky Lab will end support for corporate users in the second half of 2016, but will continue supporting consumers until at least 2018. Webroot has the most distant Windows XP end date; it won't stop supporting the OS until at least April 2019 when the OS will enter it's 18th year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
submix8c Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Follow-up - from MS -https://blogs.technet.com/b/mmpc/archive/2014/01/15/microsoft-antimalware-support-for-windows-xp.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZortMcGort11 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 It will come faster than you think... I remember when Windows ME/98 support ended in 2006, it only took two years before all vendors dropped 9x support completely. AVG 7.5 was the last one in 2008 for WinME. The only thing that still works is ClamWin. I think Windows XP will attain security through Obsolescence quicker than people realize. But thats, like, uh, just my opinion, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 Thanks submix8c for the extra reading. It will be interesting as these few months click by ... less than three months. Then what will develop after that ... an underground group of people with unofficial fixes, of course they don't have to be "underground" but they will be out there somewhere tinkering around ... it's human nature wanting to fix something ... like an old toaster oven or Windows XP, instead of throwing it on the junk pile.With my limited knowledge of the inner workings of XP, I can't think of what I might need to be fixed down the road ... maybe a new Daylight Savings Time update occasionally? I have a good working system ... maybe one day I won't be able to get on the internet, that might be a possibility I guess. I don't use IE 8 except for updates, I still use the old K-Meleon browser (an updated version) and it works just great for my setup.So I guess we will see ... let's get these updates over with ... let the challenge of the "unknown" begin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifera Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) problem isn't just in XPits in all NT win versionsif you disable UAC in any NT 6, it is equally weak as XP/2000 isabout 1.5 years ago I got certain virus under win7 SP1, that installed itself under SYSTEM account !!!!UAC was off(gee I thought SYSTEM was protected by certain restrictions even with UAC off - guess NOT) Edited January 17, 2014 by vinifera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-H Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 It will come faster than you think... I remember when Windows ME/98 support ended in 2006, it only took two years before all vendors dropped 9x support completely. AVG 7.5 was the last one in 2008 for WinME. The only thing that still works is ClamWin. I think Windows XP will attain security through Obsolescence quicker than people realize. But thats, like, uh, just my opinion, man.Off topic for this forum of course, but I should mention that I'm still using a copy of Trend PC-cillin 2002 on Windows 98SE, and you can still manually download and install current pattern files for it, as I do every Monday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) I don't think it's off topic, good to have all this information. It may be of use to someone. I just want to add from my first post ... as I said earlier, I do not have an antivirus program installed on my computer but I do keep a current copy of Stinger handy on a flash drive in case of a problem. It seems to be updated everyday and comes in a 32 or 64 Bit download. It may still work with Windows 98SE ... not 100% sure anymore.Stingerhttp://www.mcafee.com/us/downloads/free-tools/stinger.aspxMcAfee Stinger is a standalone utility used to detect and remove specific viruses. It is not a substitute for full anti-virus protection, but a specialized tool to assist administrators and users when dealing with infected system. Stinger utilizes next-generation scan technology, including rootkit scanning, and scan performance optimizations. It detects and removes threats identified under the "Threat List" option under Advanced menu options in the Stinger application.... if you look in the Release Notes on the right side you will see the current dated version. This is what's there now.Stinger Release NotesBuild Number: 12.1.0.750Build Date: 17-Jan-2014 Edited January 17, 2014 by duffy98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacerBG Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Using AV when you have secure browsing is a waste of RAM memory at least for me.I read at the Panda Cloud forums that they will continue support for XP but I don't know for how long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
submix8c Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 (Someone on the Board is begging for a hacker attack...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flasche Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) It will come faster than you think... I remember when Windows ME/98 support ended in 2006, it only took two years before all vendors dropped 9x support completely. AVG 7.5 was the last one in 2008 for WinME. The only thing that still works is ClamWin. I think Windows XP will attain security through Obsolescence quicker than people realize. But thats, like, uh, just my opinion, man.No I can bet a lot of money that antivirus support will be here for XP for a long time. Especially avast, they will support windows XP for a long time. Heck they still support windows 98 . Edited January 24, 2014 by Flasche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jody Thornton Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I wonder if the July 2015 MSE end date coincides with the EOL for Windows Server 2003? Although unsupported, I run the x86 Vista/Win7 MSE version on Windows Server 2003, and I was running MSE x64 for Vista/Win7 on XP x64 Edition.Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 It does. July 14, 2015 is the cutoff for both Window Server 2003 and Microsoft Security Essentials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jody Thornton Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 And is there a relationship here between the two products? I really wished support for Windows XP x64 Edition continued. Sigh!\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) A relationship is not likely. The commonality is that the date falls on a Patch Tuesday (second Tuesday of the month). Edited January 27, 2014 by 5eraph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jody Thornton Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I think Windows XP will attain security through Obsolescence quicker than people realize. But thats, like, uh, just my opinion, man.We need to be careful not to use Windows 9x/ME support history as a precedent here. That OS line may have achieved security through obsolesecence, being that it's a simpler, flimsier kernel that no attacker targets anymore. However, the Windows NT kernel continues to exist in Vista, 7 and 8 and WIL BE TARGETED. XP doesn't differ nearly as much and will be much more affected. So I don't think XP will eventually be a safe bet based on the likelihood that 9x now seems to be a safer bet after years of non-support status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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