lolnousernameforyou Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Windows 98 wont recognize my hard-drive, but BIOS does. Any suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Any suggestions.Follow the Standard Litany:http://homepage.ntlworld.com./jonathan.deboynepollard/FGA/problem-report-standard-litany.htmlOur ESP powers tend to be on the low side on the 7, 14, 21 and 28 of each month (and crystal ball is in the shop for tuning - AGAIN )jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlotteTheHarlot Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Make sure the jumper on the jumper block on the HDD is in the appropriate position. Make sure this slave HDD is on the middle position connector on the IDE ribbon cable, NOT the end connector. Make sure the blue connector on that cable is in the motherboard. Make sure the BIOS screen correctly identifies the model of that HDD, use Auto-Detect, do NOT adjust the CHS parameters in there. Remove and then re-connect the ribbon cable from both the motherboard and the HDD. As Jaclaz implies, you have not mentioned any details of substance. Especially, the HDD location, is it on the secondary channel and the system boot HDD on the primary, or are they both on the same channel and same cable? All these things listed above need to be squared away before you even think about changing anything Windows ( which is usually how these problems are incorrectly addressed ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
submix8c Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 <--- Bets this (0 Pesos, natch)... You have attached a HDD from a system that translates differently and your problem description does not clearly indicate the symptoms (see standard litany above), e.g. Compaq to non-Compaq or vise-versa - in the System Properties but "different" sector translation prevents it being "seen" in Explorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTS Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Is it FAT32?.................................................................................................................................................................................................... Does it appear in the administative tools section ( if you have one ) or device manager?.................................................................................... Can it be seen by FDISK?.................................................................................................................................................................................. Is the jumper set to slave ? Sometimes, no matter what, the jumper being in master, etc will not really change how the drive loads. This is usually the task of the BIOS. Moving the jumper around is for rare cases, and if you want to show off your technical ability of understanding computers, etc.The BIOS and startup CMOS etc ( whatever it is called ) should have a hotkey ( if that is the correct term ) to load OS from X drive, USB ( in most newer boards ), or CD-rom .......................................................................................................................................................................................... When I want to load from X drive, and do not know which keys to press to enter that menu. I will usually plug out the power cable to the drive, and the BIOS should automatically assign that drive as the boot drive. Otherwise I would switch around the cables........................................................................................................................................................................................... If your restricted to one IDE, etc cable you can try switching slave and master positions but sometimes this will not help at all. If your restricted to SATA ports, I would find the built in boot menu key, because newer machines should have them. .......................................................................................................................................................................................... .......................................................................................................................................................................................... Keep in mind that fiddling with the cables too much might result in a hard drive crash, and loss of data, loss of investment etc. My drive caught on fire after messing around too much with the cords and cables. .......................................................................................................................................................................................... .......................................................................................................................................................................................... That is my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolnousernameforyou Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 (edited) Thanks for the replies. Sorry for the vague description I'm new, but anyway here it is.Device DescriptionWDC WD1200JB-00GVA0 (WD-WCALA1632771)Field ValueATA Device PropertiesModel ID WDC WD1200JB-00GVA0Serial Number WD-WCALA1632771Revision 08.02D08Parameters 232581 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors per track, 600 bytes per sectorLBA Sectors 234441648Buffer 8 MB (Dual Ported, Read Ahead)Multiple Sectors 16ECC Bytes 74Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5 (ATA-100)Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5 (ATA-100)Unformatted Capacity 134149 MBATA Device FeaturesSMART SupportedSecurity Mode SupportedPower Management SupportedAdvanced Power Management Not SupportedWrite Cache SupportedHost Protected Area SupportedPower-Up In Standby Not SupportedAutomatic Acoustic Management Supported48-bit LBA SupportedDevice Configuration Overlay SupportedATA Device ManufacturerCompany Name Western Digital CorporationProduct Information http://www.westerndigital.com/en/products***note its not the cables the last HD I hocked up as a slave was a 20 gig but that one was corrupt and three trojan Edited August 7, 2013 by lolnousernameforyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Good . What you posted is the (very exhaustive descrription of the actual piece of hardware (the hard disk). Now we need some description of the context and of the EXACT issue. You are running Windows 98, and the BIOS recognizes the disk, so what exactly do you mean by "Windows 98 won't recognize"? You cannot see any drive letter added in Explorer? Have you booted to "pure DOS" and tried running FDISK? What happens if you do that? One example: If the disk came from another system that ran any OS of the Windows NT family from NT 3.5 up to Windows 2K/XP or any later one, it is possible that the disk is partitioned and that the partition(s) is/are formatted in NTFS. Windows 98 won't recognize that filesystem (not the "disk") and thus explorer won't assign to it an additional drive letter. Same applies if it came from a Linux system or more geerally from a machine running *any* OS more recent than Windows 98 as win9x cannot (without add-ons, drivers and what not) recognize *any* filesystem besides FAT12, FAT16 or FAT32. Maybe this is the case (or maybe it is not) Quick FDISK tutorial (if needed ): http://fdisk.radified.com/ jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlotteTheHarlot Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Thanks for the replies. Sorry for the vague description I'm new, but anyway here it is. [...] ***note its not the cables the last HD I hocked up as a slave was a 20 gig but that one was corrupt and three trojan Still vague. Where in the computer? Primary or secondary channel? Where on cable? Just describe the whole thing ... "This drive is on secondary channel, middle position, the jumper is on xxx, the BIOS says xxx". Replace those examples with your own details! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolnousernameforyou Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 (edited) I don't think you understood what I meant by new. I JUST got into computer building three days ago and just started to learn DOS (such a NOOB ), but anyway I resolved the issue and partitioned the drive. Only thing I need to know now is the technical part so can anyone please pm me to a site where I can learn this. Thanks for all the replies. Edited August 8, 2013 by lolnousernameforyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TmEE Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I believe there is no partition on the drive, or at least no FAT32 partition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I don't think you understood what I meant by new. I JUST got into computer building three days ago and just started to learn DOS (such a NOOB ), but anyway I resolved the issue and partitioned the drive. Only thing I need to know now is the technical part so can anyone please pm me to a site where I can learn this. Thanks for all the replies.Well, here we like to do things in public, why should one provide privately links to public sites (possibly useful not only to you but to all the members that are - or will be - in a similar situation to the one you were)?And it is also expected that when people helps you, you try to be grateful to them (and to the other members) by reporting in detail WHAT was the solution, HOW EXACTLY you implemented it, this way another "n00b" may be able to find this thread an learn something from it.Just for the record, it seems to me very likely that you did not resolve anything, jaclaz did and you simply followed his advice. jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolnousernameforyou Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 (edited) I'm not trying to be ungrateful if thats the way your taking it I'm sorry and didn't mean it. But can you still post the website so I don't have to be such a pain to you all. Edited August 8, 2013 by lolnousernameforyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I'm not trying to be ungrateful if thats the way your taking it I'm sorry and didn't mean it. But can you still post the website so I don't have to be such a pain to you all.I thought that the link I already provided you was exhaustive enough about the use of FDISK, what do you mean by the "technical part"?A partitioning primer?http://www.bandwidthco.com/whitepapers/datarecovery/vanalysis/partition/mbr/Partitioning%20Primer.pdfPlease understand how the topic is actually vast, and you self-defined yourself as "n00b", so I don't know if I will give cause some sort of "information overload by suggesting you to read this whole site:http://thestarman.pcministry.com/AND these:http://homepage.ntlworld.com./jonathan.deboynepollard/FGA/http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/partitions/partition_types.htmlwhich are the "usual references" I provide when talking of booting/partitioning/filesystems.Maybe if you narrow a bit your request I can provide you with more "targeted" suggestions.jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G8YMW Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 lolnousernameforyouPosted Today, 04:49 PMMembers6 postsOS:98SECountry: I'm not trying to be ungrateful if thats the way your taking it I'm sorry and didn't mean it. But can you still post the website so I don't have to be such a pain to you all.That is not a problem. I think Jaclaz was looking for"I've sorted the problem, it was ***** Thanks lads"BTW was it FDISK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolnousernameforyou Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 Yes it was fdisk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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