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+1!!!

Windowed DOS Boxes are a very deeply integrated part of the day-to-day use for serious 9Xers...

That was the main reason I've not adopted VBEMP 9X as the default for my installations on newer hardware, up to now.

I wasn't aware, however, that there is some hardware in which those issues do not manifest themselves.

Please LC, do elaborate on it... :yes:

OTOH, I must say that VBEMP 9X brings fresh air galore to the currently somewhat still atmosphere of the 9X/ME scene... :D

So... thank you a whole lot, Bearwindows! :thumbup You do rock! worship.gif

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I wasn't aware, however, that there is some hardware in which those issues do not manifest themselves.

Please LC, do elaborate on it... :yes:

In order to give a more precise explanation I would have to go back and retest some of the hardware setups I used during some driver testing I did recently... but to make a long story short, I was doing extensive tests under Windows 95. Several of the systems I used had no Windows 95 drivers and in those cases I sometimes ran VBE9X to escape 640x480x16.

If I am remembering correctly, at one point I had two machines with video cards that have official Windows 98/ME drivers but no 95 drivers, these being an ATI Radeon 9800 XT and an ATI Radeon X800 Pro. The Radeon X800 Pro system would not run DOS Boxes in windowed mode without crashing with VBE9X, while the Radeon 9800 XT system was able to run DOS Boxes in windowed mode without issues. There may have been another instance of this but my memory is fuzzy at the moment and I only noted these things in passing as I was concentrating on the driver being tested.. also I didn't have much hope that VBE9X would be further updated but I am very pleased to find I was wrong! :yes:

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>> Any chance of getting the issues with windowed DOS Boxes addressed? They seem to work on some machines but not on others... :angel

JFYI, Exists an unofficial build of proprietary SciTechSoft SNAP Graphics 3.1.8 for Windows 9x dated by ~ autumn 2006.

If supports a lot of video hardware, I took 3 major ones of them, for example,

1) Intel Graphics - Intel 910G, 915G, 945G, G96x and mobile versions

2) AMD (former ATI) - Ati Radeon Xyyy, Xyyyy series, including mobile ones

3) NVIDIA - Geforce 7 Series, including mobile ones

Note that these chips does not have official drivers for Windows9x line from Intel, AMD, NVIDIA.

SNAP Driver provide

1) DirectDraw acceleration, video overlay support, color keying etc.

2) Option to add any custom resolutions on the fly, including widescreen

3) No problems with DOS box, either fullscreen or windowed

4) Dual-head and rotation support

5) Software OpengGL 1.x support

It is a good option to replace VBEMP for some supported chips.

Full list of supported chips:

sdd9x.inf

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List of supported chips, incomplete!

. 3dfx Voodoo Banshee, Voodoo3, Voodoo4, Voodoo5. 3DLabs Permedia, Permedia 2, Permedia 2V, Permedia 3. Alliance ProMotion 6422, ProMotion AT24, ProMotion AT3D. AMD Geode GX2. ARK 2000PV, 2000MT, 2000MI (Quadro64), 2000MI+ (Quadro64). ATI Mach64 GX, Mach64 CX, Mach64 CT, Mach64 VT, 3D Rage, Mach64 VTB. ATI 3D Rage II, 3D Rage II+, Mach64 VT4, 3D Rage IIC, 3D Rage Pro. ATI 3D Rage LT Pro, Rage Mobility, Rage XL, Rage 128, Rage 128 Pro. ATI Rage 128 Ultra, Rage Mobility 128, Rage Mobility 128-D4x, ES1000. ATI Radeon 7000, Radeon 7200, Radeon 7500, Radeon 8500, Radeon 8500DV. ATI Mobility Radeon, Mobility Radeon 7000 IGP, Mobility Radeon 7500. ATI Mobility Radeon 9000, Mobility Radeon 9000 IGP, Radeon 9000 Series. ATI Radeon 9100 Pro IGP, Radeon 9100, Mobility Radeon 9200. ATI Radeon 9200 Series, Radeon 9500, Radeon 9500 Pro, Radeon 9550. ATI Mobility Radeon 9550, Mobility Radeon 9600, Radeon 9600 Series. ATI Radeon 9600 XT, Radeon 9700 Pro, Mobility Radeon 9800, Radeon 9800. ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, Radeon 9800 XT, Mobility Radeon X300, Radeon X550. ATI Mobility Radeon X600, Radeon X300 Series, Radeon X600 Series. ATI Mobility Radeon X800, Radeon IGP 320M / 340M, Radeon XPress 200. ATI Mobility Radeon XPress 200, FireMV 2200, Radeon X700 Series. ATI Radeon X800 Series, Radeon X850 Series. Chips & Technologies 65548, 65550, 65554, 65555, 69000. Cirrus Logic CL-GD7543 LCD, CL-GD5434, CL-GD5440, CL-GD5436. Cirrus Logic CL-GD5446, CL-GD7555 LCD, Laguna 5462, Laguna 5464. Cirrus Logic Laguna 5465. Cyrix MediaGX. IBM VGA Compatible. InteGraphics CyberPro 2000, CyberPro 2010. Intel i740, i740 PCI, i810, i810/DC100, i810e, i815, i845G, i865G. Intel i852/i855 GM/GME, i915G/GV, i915GM/GMS, i945G, i945GM. Matrox MGA Millennium, MGA Millennium II, MGA Mystique. Matrox MGA Mystique 220, MGA-G100, MGA-G200, MGA-G400, MGA-G450. Matrox MGA-G550, Parhelia, MGA-P750, MGA-P650. NeoMagic MagicGraph 128, MagicGraph 128ZV, MagicGraph 128XD. NeoMagic MagicGraph 256AV, MagicMedia 256AV+, MagicMedia 256ZX. NeoMagic MagicMedia 256XL+. Number Nine Imagine 128, Imagine 128 II, Imagine 128 II VRAM. Number Nine Imagine 128 II DRAM, Ticket 2 Ride WRAM. Number Nine Ticket 2 Ride SGRAM, Ticket 2 Ride IV. NVIDIA RIVA-128, RIVA-128ZX, RIVA-TNT, RIVA-TNT2, RIVA-TNT2 M64. NVIDIA RIVA-TNT2 Vanta, RIVA-TNT2 Ultra, GeForce 256, GeForce DDR. NVIDIA Quadro, GeForce2 Integrated GPU, GeForce2 Ti, GeForce2 GTS. NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 100/200, GeForce2 MX/MX 400, GeForce2 Ultra. NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420, GeForce3, Quadro2, GeForce4 MX 440. NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 8X, GeForce4 MX 460, GeForce4 MX 4000. NVIDIA GeForce4 Integrated GPU, GeForce4 Ti 4200, GeForce4 Ti 4200 8X. NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4400, GeForce4 Ti 4600, GeForce4 Ti 4800. NVIDIA Quadro4 NVS, Quadro4 XGL, GeForce FX 5200, GeForce FX 5500. NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600 Series, GeForce FX 5700 Series, Quadro FX. NVIDIA GeForce PCX 5300, GeForce PCX 5750, GeForce 6200 Series. NVIDIA GeForce 6600 Series. OAK Spitfire 64107, Spitfire 64111, Eon 64017, Eon 64217, Warp 5. Philips 9710. Rendition Verite V1000, Verite V2200. S3 Vision 864, Vision 964, Vision 868, Vision 968, Trio32, Trio64. S3 Trio64V+, Trio64UV+, Trio64V2/DX, Virge, Virge/DX/GX, Virge/VX. S3 Virge/GX2, Virge/MX, Trio3D, Trio3D/2X, Savage3D, Savage4. S3 ProSavage (VIA PM133), ProSavage (VIA KM133), ProSavage (VIA PN133). S3 ProSavageDDR (VIA PM266), ProSavageDDR (VIA KM266), Savage/MX/IX. S3 SuperSavage/IXC, Savage2000. Sigma Designs RealMagic 64 GX. Silicon Motion LynxEM, Lynx3DM. SiS 6202, 6205, 6215, 5597/5598, 6326, 300, 305, 630, 315, 730. SiS 5595/530, 5595/620. Trident TGUI9440, TGUI9440-R2, TGUI9680, ProVidia 9682. Trident Cyber9385 LCD, ProVidia 9685, 3DImage 975, Cyber9397 LCD. Trident 3DImage 985, Blade 3D, Blade 3D (VIA VT8501). Trident Blade 3D (VIA VT8601). Tseng Labs ET4000/W32p, ET6000, ET6100. VIA CLE266, P4M800/VN800/CN800. Weitek P9000, P9100. VESA VBE 1.2, VBE 2.0, VBE 3.0
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>> Any chance of getting the issues with windowed DOS Boxes addressed? They seem to work on some machines but not on others... :angel

JFYI, Exists an unofficial build of proprietary SciTechSoft SNAP Graphics 3.1.8 for Windows 9x dated by ~ autumn 2006.

That that build is existing is good, but the question is:

Is it - besides existing - also available?

If YES :yes:, Where from? :unsure:

If NO :no: , this represents what we highly specialized technicians call "senseless teasing" :ph34r:

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