carlese Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 There could be several different issues.First one could be the size of the stick (but if it works with FAT32 this is not possible).Second could be some "strange" incompatibility of the BIOS with the NTFS bootsector (or with the partition ID of 07 in the partition table).Are you familiar with using a disk/hex editor? (I need to know this if further tests are to be made=Get this thingy here Clonedisk:http://labalec.fr/erwan/?page_id=42Click on the Tool tab, then Partition Table Editor, choose the USB stick (if you have a SSD and a HD it will be most probably \\.\PhysicalDrive2), you should see the first two lines filled with partition data, and the last two empty/all 00's.The first line will have 07 as type, change it to 0C.Save the edited partition table and reboot.Try connecting the USB stick to a port "on the back" of the PC (i.e. one of those directly soldered to the motherboard) and NOT on one of the "front" ones, and try booting again.Your motherboard most probably has a "hot key" to change boot order, you should try booting form the USB stick BOTH with USB set as primary boot device (in BIOS settings) and by changing the normal boot order "on the fly" through the hot-key.Report the exact wording that you see in the error message (if it fails booting).Another thing, get Chipgenius:http://reboot.pro/topic/4661-chipgenius/and run it against the USB stick, post the results.jaclazok i changed the 07 thing.. will try later if it works! for now, this is what chipgenius gives me:Device Name: +[F:]+Periferica di archiviazione di massa USB(JetFlash Transcend 8GB USB Device)PnP Device ID: VID = 058F PID = 6387Serial Number: I8JIJGEVRevision: 8.07Device Type: Standard USB device - USB2.0 High-SpeedChip Vendor: AlcorChip Part-Number: AU6983~AU6987Product Vendor: (N/A)Product Model: (N/A)Tools on Web: http://bbs.mydigit.cn/read.php?tid=4345 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 ok i changed the 07 thing.. will try later if it works! for now, this is what chipgenius gives me:Good, let's see if it changes something, before attempting anything else.....Chip Vendor: AlcorChip Part-Number: AU6983~AU6987...Good, it uses an Alcor chip for which an "easy enough" tool to "flip the bit" (if needed) is available.Flipping the removable bit would make the device appear as "fixed" and thus allow to have more partitions accessible, we could then make a small FAT16 or FAT32 partition with just the boot files and the rest NTFS to hold the install "monolithic" wim, if we cannot find a way to have that thingy boot using any of the plainer approaches.jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlese Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 ok, since i tried and had no luck even with the 0C thing.. what should i do next? Make some mklink or something like that? thanks mate, you are doing great.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 ok, since i tried and had no luck even with the 0C thing.. what should i do next? Make some mklink or something like that? thanks mate, you are doing great..Naaah, next I would try flipping the bit (of course if you the guts for it ).Start reading here:http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http://www.usbdev.ru/files/alcor/A suitable tool should be this one:http://yadi.sk/d/95HEgbZl3-ZTRIf you have by any chance an USB hard disk (and it is NTFS formatted) have you ever checked if it's bootable on that PC?(it would be of some psychological support to know if a "fixed" device - NTFS - is bootable)jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlese Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 ok, since i tried and had no luck even with the 0C thing.. what should i do next? Make some mklink or something like that? thanks mate, you are doing great..Naaah, next I would try flipping the bit (of course if you the guts for it ).Start reading here:http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http://www.usbdev.ru/files/alcor/A suitable tool should be this one:http://yadi.sk/d/95HEgbZl3-ZTRIf you have by any chance an USB hard disk (and it is NTFS formatted) have you ever checked if it's bootable on that PC?(it would be of some psychological support to know if a "fixed" device - NTFS - is bootable)jaclazEhm.. Can you tell me how to use the mklink method if possible? Fat32 on a partition and install.wim on the ntfs one.. The flipping thing seems too difficult for me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlese Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 Ok, this is strange.. I tried with another usb stick, the worst 8gb stick I have and it works like a charm.. With transcend not.. But why??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Ehm.. Can you tell me how to use the mklink method if possible? Fat32 on a partition and install.wim on the ntfs one.. The flipping thing seems too difficult for me..WHICH mklink method? (you know like in "you mentioned it, there isn't any mklink method that I know of").But we can try installing grub4dos to the thingy and try understanding which is the specific issue (it could also be a peculiar problem of that particular specimen of transcend, like a timing issue of some kind, since another stick works fine).If this is the case, we are back to square one the next step would be to attempt using the MP tool to "re-condition" the stick.jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlese Posted April 5, 2013 Author Share Posted April 5, 2013 Ehm.. Can you tell me how to use the mklink method if possible? Fat32 on a partition and install.wim on the ntfs one.. The flipping thing seems too difficult for me..WHICH mklink method? (you know like in "you mentioned it, there isn't any mklink method that I know of").But we can try installing grub4dos to the thingy and try understanding which is the specific issue (it could also be a peculiar problem of that particular specimen of transcend, like a timing issue of some kind, since another stick works fine).If this is the case, we are back to square one the next step would be to attempt using the MP tool to "re-condition" the stick.jaclazwhell, since i found out that my other USB works just fine, i think i'll leave things as they are.. for me it's a problem solved now thanks mate for everything you told and taught me! cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 whell, since i found out that my other USB works just fine, i think i'll leave things as they are.. for me it's a problem solved now thanks mate for everything you told and taught me! cheers!As long as you are now a happy bunny:that's fine with me .jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlese Posted April 5, 2013 Author Share Posted April 5, 2013 whell, since i found out that my other USB works just fine, i think i'll leave things as they are.. for me it's a problem solved now thanks mate for everything you told and taught me! cheers!As long as you are now a happy bunny:that's fine with me .jaclazLol wut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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