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First I want to commend Bristols and tomasz86 and everybody else for their heroic efforts as regards w2k.

I'm putting together the files now for a build. There are three files on Bristols list which I was unable to get hold of.

1. Windows2000-UU-KB968006-x86-Global.exe, for installer 31, is linked to SkyDrive. The other SkyDrive files download without a problem. However, that file requires an account. After I open a MS account, it comes back with:--

quote "This item might not exist or is no longer available. This item might have been deleted, expired, or you might not have permission to view it. Contact the owner of this item for more information." In any case, skydrive says it's not accessible."

[unrelated rant, but wow ... when you click on the "What is [skyDrive]" page, MS returns a message ... "You can also use a Microsoft account [like SkyDrive] to sign in to any PC running Windows 8." hmmm? sign in to any pc from a SkyDrive account ... I guess they got it backwards, otherwise it sound dangerous.]

2. any chance anyone might have an extermal link to WINDOWS2000-KB2570947-X86-CUSTOM-ENU.EXE from the 90+meg security iso, Windows-KB913086-201109.iso. The other file is IE6.0SP1-KB2722913-WINDOWS2000-X86-ENU.EXE from the Windows-KB913086-201208.iso. The former 93 meg, is the latter is 3.3 gig ... I'm still on dialup at the moment so it's out of the question.

Can HFSLIP slipstream the c++ and basic runtime redistrubutables?

tomasz had done some rollups for .NET11 and .NET20, dated 15 may 2011 and 15 june 2011 respectively ... are they still good? can they be slipstreamed with hfslip? As I remember it, .NET could not be slipstreamed with hfslip ...?

does hfslip set the 48-bit LBA for larger drives.

If file management and disc volume requirements for hfslip trial runs prove too complex for me, can I manually run tomasz86's w2000 unofficial fixes?

@ Bristols that is an amazing list you are maintaining. That is a HUGE amount of work and I truly thank you for your time and effort.

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1. The link is wrong. It's "Windows\2K\Updates" while it should be "Windows\2K\Updates2". Try it again after adding the "2".

2. Yes :yes: Try looking for it here (in case it's not available at the moment then you should wait for a few hours as the files are being uploaded right now ;)).

Can HFSLIP slipstream the c++ and basic runtime redistrubutables?

No but all MS VC++ libraries are included in UURollup (ENU). Which "basic runtime redistributables" do you mean exactly?

tomasz had done some rollups for .NET11 and .NET20, dated 15 may 2011 and 15 june 2011 respectively ... are they still good? can they be slipstreamed with hfslip? As I remember it, .NET could not be slipstreamed with hfslip ...?

I've been working on new .NET packages and they are going to be ready in the near future. At the moment if you want to slipstream .NET1.1/2.0 you can just use the OnePiece's addons:

http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6717

http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8315

They can be slipstreamed from HFAAO folder.

does hfslip set the 48-bit LBA for larger drives.

Yes if you put "reg.exe" in HFTOOLS. The fix is also automatically turned on when USP5.1 is slipstreamed.

If file management and disc volume requirements for hfslip trial runs prove too complex for me, can I manually run tomasz86's w2000 unofficial fixes?

Of course there is no problem with manually installing the unofficial updates :)

By the way, if bandwidth is a problem for you then I'd recommend using Update Rollup 2 instead of hundreds of single fixes. It's 50 MB (UR2) vs 200 MB (single files).

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thank you! tomasz!! and Bristols and and and msfn team.

the new links were good ... thanks

now that I've gathered all the files, I think I'll try the rollup method (typical!)

since I'd like 48bit LBA, I thought I'd try w2ksp51

I'm starting from a 2000sp4 source

gurglemeyer's usp51.zip from the majorgeeks link is a zip

inside is "w2ksp51.exe" which is 219,932,672 b, dated 11/13/2004

there is some other stuff in the zip that may or may not be needed (-?)

(1) cd-autorun files,

(2) a dir support tools, containing

(3) resourse kit 2000rkst.msi with a support.cab 10,621,350b, 11/13/2004 and

(4) a "dtc" folder, containing

(5) another copy of 2000rkst.msi and a different support.cab 11,632,058b, with the same date

do I use only the w2ksp51.exe file or do I need others as well?

if only the w2ksp51.ext file, then which version do I use?

majorgeeks zip version is 219,932,672 b dated 11/13/2004

kurt aust version is 219,898,368 b dated 7/14/2006

thus kurt's is 34k smaller and 20 months later

(kurt aust copy available here ...

he calls it "Unofficial Windows 2000 Service Pack 5.1.2195.24 Refresh"

when recompiled from his three part 7z file, the md5 value checks)

any preference? doesn't matter?

which HFSLIP folder does w2ksp51.exe go in?

I got copies of UptateRollup2 and UURollup-v10c

Windows2000-UURollup-v10c-x86-ENU.exe 50,467,760 b

Windows2000-UpdateRollup2-x86-ENU.exe 48,821,760 b

which HFSLIP folder do they go in?

the onepiece files for .net11 and .net20 are cab files

OnePiece_w2kdotNET11v4322-2497_ENU.cab 14,171,768 b

OnePiece_w2kdotNET20v50727-3639_ENU.cab 21,955,670 b

just checking that it's ok to put his cab files in HFAAO folder?

I misspoke when I mentioned basic runtime redistributable(s) in plural.

I was thinking of VB6sp6 (KB290887)

I assume it's included in UURollup with the C++ RTEs?

I'm very excited ... other than /sources/ files, I need only 5 files

1 gurglemeyer, 2 onepiece, 2 tomasz86

... if that works it will be WONDERFUL!!

I read through the SP52 thread on this site and think it's wonderful

the team support you have assembled ... it's fantastic

here's why ... did you notice that M$ says that you can connect to ANY PC running windows 8 from your SkyDrive account.

I don't think that's a Freudian slip. Microsoft is integrating skydrive into their new operating systems.

They will do exactly what they did to WordPerfect ... put all other OSs and all other "cloud accounts" on a treadmill. Thus only skyDrive looks fast. It's important to build alternatives to any monopoly, and M$ is pentagon enforced monopoly. I like the ReactOS effort as well.

after I slipstream a 2k iso and burn cd, I have some pretty humble quesitons

(I'm FINALLY graduating from w98se I promise, really really this time, I promise ... haha!! 98 will always be the greatest! but I'm looking foward to a new life with 2k with help from friends at msfn)

I'll have basic dumb questions in two categories (1) hardware setup, and (2) admin and user account setups in 2k and installing software

regarding w2k-hardware questions

like which channels to mount hdds, how to populate PCI, bios settings

integrating drivers into a cd

should I open another thread under 2000? or under Hardware?

mobo is

MSI P43-neo3F,

American Megatrends BIOS 2005, v.02.61,

P43 northbridge, ICH10 southbridge,

Intel Core2Duo e7200, LGA775, 2.53ghz, 3mb L2, 1066 mhz fsb,

2 gig DDR2 800mhz cas4,

6 sata-II -- ICH10 (sata 1 to 6)

2 sata-II -- JMicron JMB363 (sata 7 to 8)

1 IDE port, 1 FDD port

Realtec ALC888 audio

PCIe-16 w/ MSI nVidia GeForce 7300Gs 64 meg DDR2,

PCI with adaptec AHA1640? scsi2 (scanner)

laserjet 4000 LPT printer

for boot hdd, I'm thinking of connectcing to JMicron chip, sata channel 8

that way the JMicron chip will be dedicated to one system hdd, with no hdd to conflict

1 50g active partition 50g for w2k os + all program files

1 200g ext. part. for backups, HFSLIP builds, etc.

on ICH10 channel 1, 750 gig sataII hdd with 1 ext.part for main data files

on ICH10 channel 4, 750 gig sataII hdd with 1 ext.part for data file backups

on IDE port hdds from 98se system

I want to setup the system with Terabyte Backup software, such that on shutdown, w2k runs a shutdown batch which tests to see if the cd drive has the cd disk with backup program, and if so, then reboot system from cd-drive and not usual hdd

Terabyte will then run a autobatch which asks (or looks for a file on c:\ with instructions) to (1) preserve current image for future default backups, or (2) to obliterate existing system and restore system hdd from a known safe image ... it takes about 20 minutes on a 733mhz system ... which is no big deal on shutdown

then bootups are clean and I don't need to "trust" my antivirus program. I haven't used antivirus in ten years or more ... 98se is the greatest ... I trust my backup image instead.

I understand BlackWingCat has ICH10 driver patch for Core2Duo systems ...

probably should move this thread to 2000 OS section, and title it "Core2Duo drivers" ?

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You like writing LONG posts, don't you :D

I don't think there's any problem in keeping everything in one topic (this one). There may be a few different issues discussed but they are all interrelated with each other, aren't they?

gurglemeyer's usp51.zip from the majorgeeks link is a zip

inside is "w2ksp51.exe" which is 219,932,672 b, dated 11/13/2004

there is some other stuff in the zip that may or may not be needed (-?)

(1) cd-autorun files,

(2) a dir support tools, containing

(3) resourse kit 2000rkst.msi with a support.cab 10,621,350b, 11/13/2004 and

(4) a "dtc" folder, containing

(5) another copy of 2000rkst.msi and a different support.cab 11,632,058b, with the same date

do I use only the w2ksp51.exe file or do I need others as well?

Are you sure that you downloaded the right file? It should be dated like this (the exact time may differ depending on your time zone)?

post-310716-0-85479600-1346838340_thumb.

You only need w2ksp51.exe. You should put it in HF and you should also remove all IE CABs from HFCABS.

I got copies of UptateRollup2 and UURollup-v10c

Windows2000-UURollup-v10c-x86-ENU.exe 50,467,760 b

Windows2000-UpdateRollup2-x86-ENU.exe 48,821,760 b

which HFSLIP folder do they go in?

They go in HF :) and please check the information files:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15391619/Public/Windows2000/UnofficialUpdatesRollup/Stable/Windows2000-UURollup-v10c-x86-ENU.txt

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15391619/Public/Windows2000/UpdateRollup2/Stable/Windows2000-UpdateRollup2-x86-ENU.txt

You can remove all updates listed there from your HFSLIP folders. They are already included in the two rollups.

the onepiece files for .net11 and .net20 are cab files

OnePiece_w2kdotNET11v4322-2497_ENU.cab 14,171,768 b

OnePiece_w2kdotNET20v50727-3639_ENU.cab 21,955,670 b

just checking that it's ok to put his cab files in HFAAO folder?

:yes: You should also (just in case) put "reg.exe" in HFEXPERT\WIN\system32. And please rename the NETFX CABs to NETFX11.cab and NETFX20.cab. HFSLIP may have problems with long filenames.

I misspoke when I mentioned basic runtime redistributable(s) in plural.

I was thinking of VB6sp6 (KB290887)

I assume it's included in UURollup with the C++ RTEs?

I'm not sure now but I'll try to check it later. There are some VB6 libraries included in UURollup.

I'm very excited ... other than /sources/ files, I need only 5 files

1 gurglemeyer, 2 onepiece, 2 tomasz86

... if that works it will be WONDERFUL!!

It's not that perfect yet :no::lol: You still need some other files. Below you can check my HFSLIP folder structure:

HF\directx_Jun2010-W2KFP_redist.exe
HF\IE6.0sp1-KB302224-x86-ENU.exe
HF\IE6.0sp1-KB834158-x86-ENU.exe
HF\ie6.0sp1-kb885258-windows-2000-xp-x86-enu.exe
HF\IE6.0sp1-KB893627-Windows-2000-XP-x86-ENU.exe
HF\IE6.0sp1-KB900732-Windows-2000-XP-x86-ENU.exe
HF\IE6.0sp1-KBz2544521-v2-Windows2000-x86-Global.exe
HF\IE6.0SP1-KB2722913-WINDOWS2000-X86-ENU.EXE
HF\MDAC_TYP.exe
HF\MDAC281-KB927779-v2-x86-ENU.exe
HF\MDAC281-KB954920-v2-x86-Global.exe
HF\MDAC281-KB983838-x86-ENU.exe
HF\MDAC281-UU-HBR-KB950982-KB960071-KB961451-x86-Global.exe
HF\MPSetup.exe
HF\msxml4-KB2721691-enu.exe
HF\msxml6-KB2721693-enu-x86.exe
HF\OE6.0sp1-UU-KB978542-KB2423089-KB2544893-Windows2000-x86-ENU.exe
HF\q331485.exe
HF\q816362.exe
HF\q824220.exe
HF\Q830849.exe
HF\w2ksp51.exe
HF\Windows2000-DirectX9-UU-KBz2631813-x86-ENU.exe
HF\Windows2000-KB2483185-x86-custom-ENU.EXE
HF\Windows2000-KB941569-x86-ENU.EXE
HF\Windows2000-UpdateRollup2-SrvExt-v2-x86-ENU.exe
HF\Windows2000-UpdateRollup2-x86-ENU.exe
HF\Windows2000-UU-KB968006-x86-Global.exe
HF\Windows2000-UURollup-v10c-x86-ENU.exe
HF\Windows2000-WindowsMedia9-KB973540-x86-ENU.exe
HF\Windows2000-WindowsMedia-KB954155-x86-ENU.exe
HF\Windows2000-WindowsMedia-KB975025-v2-x86-ENU.exe
HF\Windows2000-WindowsMedia-KB975558-x86-Global.exe
HF\Windows2000-WindowsMedia-KB978695-x86-ENU.exe
HF\Windows2000-WindowsMedia-KBz2115168-x86-Global.exe
HF\Windows2000-WindowsMedia-KBz2378111-x86-Global.exe
HF\WindowsMedia41-KB952068-x86-ENU.exe
HF\WindowsMedia41-KB980858-v2-x86-ENU.exe
HF\WindowsMedia64-KB954600-x86-ENU.exe
HF\WindowsMedia64-KB974112-x86-ENU.exe
HF\WindowsMedia6-KB925398-v2-x86-ENU.exe
HF\WindowsMedia9-KB891122-x86-Global-ENU.exe
HF\WindowsMedia9-KB969878-x86-ENU.exe
HF\WindowsMedia-KB911564-x86-ENU.exe
HF\wmp6cdcs.exe
HFAAO\Kels_Runtimes_addon_v8.4.2.rar
HFAAO\NETFX11.cab
HFAAO\NETFX20.cab
HFAAO\tomasz86-YumeYao_WIC_Addon_1_2_0.7z
HFAAO\YumeYao_MicrosoftOldRuntimeLibraries_Addon_1_0_0.7z
HFCABS\Swflash.cab
HFEXPERT\WIN\system32\usbd.sys
HFEXPERT\WIN\system32\usbhub.sys
HFEXPERT\WIN\system32\usbser.sys
HFGUIRUNONCE\UPHClean-Setup.msi
HFSLIP_POST_getnewfiles_v3\HFSLIP_POST_getnewfiles_v3.cmd
HFSVCPACK\IE6.0sp1-KB834158-x86-ENU.reg
HFSVCPACK\IE6.0sp1-KB893627-Windows-2000-XP-x86-ENU.reg
HFSVCPACK_SW1\Windows2000-KB829884-v3-x86-Global.exe
HFSVCPACK_SW1\Windows2000-KB896414-x86-ENU
HFSVCPACK_SW1\Windows2000-KB896414-x86-ENU.EXE
HFSVCPACK_SW1\Windows2000-UU-KB914783-KB974266-x86-ENU.exe
HFSVCPACK_SW1\Windows2000-UU-KB926139-v2-x86-ENU.exe
HFSVCPACK_SW1\Windows2000-UU-KBz2603381-x86-Global.exe
HFSVCPACK_SW1\Windows2000-WindowsMedia-KB952069-x86-ENU.exe
HFSVCPACK_SW1\Windows2000-WindowsMedia-KB977816-x86-ENU.exe
HFSVCPACK_SW1\Windows2000-XP-2003-MSRDP52-x86-ENU.exe
HFSVCPACK_SW1\windowsmedia-kb895181-x86-enu.exe
HFSVCPACK_SW2\q326912.exe
HFSVCPACK_SW2\windowsmedia9-kb817885-x86-enu.exe
HFTOOLS\7za.exe
HFTOOLS\7zG.exe
HFTOOLS\boot.bin
HFTOOLS\cdimage.EXE
HFTOOLS\cmdow.exe
HFTOOLS\Defrag.cmd
HFTOOLS\extract.exe
HFTOOLS\filever.exe
HFTOOLS\HFSLIP_POST_Defrag.cmd
HFTOOLS\HFSLIP_POST_getnewfiles_v3.cmd
HFTOOLS\modifyPE.exe
HFTOOLS\Rar.exe
HFTOOLS\reg.exe
HFTOOLS\wget.exe

It may not be 100% perfect so please let me know if there's anything missing!

integrating drivers into a cd

should I open another thread under 2000? or under Hardware?

I understand BlackWingCat has ICH10 driver patch for Core2Duo systems ...

probably should move this thread to 2000 OS section, and title it "Core2Duo drivers" ?

Let's keep it here. I've almost finished a script which automatically adds drivers to driver.cab.

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tomasz ... plea for a few days I found lots of files that I had thought I couldn't

and I had discovered all kinds of amazing frustrations

I felt terrible that in my response I had said I couldn't find files

when it was my lack of knowledge about how msfn search engine works

I was so angry when I found out how it worked, I started to rewrite my post with a terrible rant -- and I'm still miffed

anyway, I found a lot of the "missing" files when I found the link to your dropbox account on your webpage (doh!!)

===

here is some of my data from my explorations with msfn search engine

a search on "926139" returns 5 results

a search on "KB926139" returns 19 results

a search on "Windows2000-UU-KB926139-v2-x86-ENU.exe" returns 376 results

I'm sorry, but that just won't work ... we HAVE to be able to get reliable searches on KB numbers, internal or not

apparently the search engine only recognizes whole words that are space parsed

oddly 5 + 19 + 376 = 400 threads

400 threads times 2-3 pages per thread = say, 1,000 page reloads = 1,000 google ads = revenue$$

(also, the way msfn code loads their pages, the google ads jump up and down on my screen -- very annoying)

anyway, I might be on dialup, but I KNOW there aren't 400 results on that search

... just no way ... so something else is going on

so try another search

search on "tomasz86-yumeyao_wic_addon_1_2_0.7z" returns 141 results

This morning the top link given on that search was

and it was "unattended 2000" with a comment by you ... so, yea! ok, I'll scroll through that thread to look for the link

but when I run through the pages (only 2 thank goodness, some go to 30s), guess what!!

"tomasz86-yumeyao_wic_addon_1_2_0.7z" does not appear ANYWHERE in the thread

whoa! can you imagine my shock

in medicine, a false positive like that is called malpractice and fraud, it can lead to death

msfh search engine is returning false positives

so, I assumed that I must have done something wrong again

so, I reran the search picked the first thread (same), ran its pages, and searched them using the browser ctrl-F...

Confirmed! ... the required search string ain't in the first thread listed

the first link of a search engine request is a false positive ...

how much time are we all supposed to have

it was very frustrating ... I was so hot I thought I better just cool my jets ... when I get cynical I can really let it roll

so now I understand that the msfn search engine is unreliable ... it returns false positives in threads that don't have the string, and if a search is done on partial text (parsed on _ or - or " ") it is obviously excluding good links ... from 376 down to 5 ... something's wrong

I don't want to criticize the day to day board monitors, so I pulled the rant ... they have their hands full and there is no ideal search engine that will satisfy google and the owners

but their search engine assumes that cluess users have infinite time to keep reloading google ads for each false positive page

I'm trying to build a new machine, so that I can hook up to a faster connection

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hey -- I really like the layout you used for your dropbox account

that's very sweet ... I'm going to use it myself

you do know, eventually you will have to ditch the x-hundred bandaids of HF code, all of which started from back when

it's inevitable someday ... we're up to bandaid-J already

at some point the inevitable will happen .. .the bandaids become unmanageable

HFSLIP uses a file structure that is HF centric

meanwhile your dropbox shows how self-obvious file structure can maintain itself

it's user friendly and user centric

HFSLIP broke new ground, so hat's off to its brave creators!

eventually they broke ground that led us to the Rollups

now, the rollups do what hfslip used to do

it'll be so easy to maintain a straight line of code

just a thought ...

so it was a frustrating day

I'll finish my downloading and setup a build and let's see what happens ...

meanwhile my core2duo temps seem high so I'm putting another post in 2000

using 2000 forum because without blackwingcat, core2duo is really XP

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tomasz ... plea for a few days I found lots of files that I had thought I couldn't

and I had discovered all kinds of amazing frustrations

I felt terrible that in my response I had said I couldn't find files

when it was my lack of knowledge about how msfn search engine works

I was so angry when I found out how it worked, I started to rewrite my post with a terrible rant -- and I'm still miffed

No problem... but please don't do it again :angry::P There were actually several good points in that post!

anyway, I found a lot of the "missing" files when I found the link to your dropbox account on your webpage (doh!!)

It's because I've changed the link. That's why the previous one didn't work for you. You should be able to find all unofficial updates in the Dropbox download archive.... but I still haven't finished sorting everything so please let me know if you can't find any of the updates. Just in case something doesn't work please always try to check my website and the Unofficial SP 5.2 for Microsoft Windows 2000 topic for news.

here is some of my data from my explorations with msfn search engine

a search on "926139" returns 5 results

a search on "KB926139" returns 19 results

a search on "Windows2000-UU-KB926139-v2-x86-ENU.exe" returns 376 results

I'm sorry, but that just won't work ... we HAVE to be able to get reliable searches on KB numbers, internal or not

You may want to try Google with adding "site:http://www.msfn.org/board". It works much better than the built-in search engine.

(also, the way msfn code loads their pages, the google ads jump up and down on my screen -- very annoying)

Adblock is the key... I'm sorry to everyone who would say that websites need $ from ads but browsing the "modern Internet" without Adblock is just impossible :ph34r:

HFSLIP uses a file structure that is HF centric

meanwhile your dropbox shows how self-obvious file structure can maintain itself

it's user friendly and user centric

You may also find this small text file useful:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15391619/Public/Windows2000/Updates/list.txt (it's being updated very often)

now, the rollups do what hfslip used to do

it'll be so easy to maintain a straight line of code

I wouldn't really say so. Rollups still need to be slipstreamed using HFSLIP. It will be possible to integrate USP5.1 without any 3rd party tools but it's not possible in case of simple updates and update rollups.

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wow ... submix8c (see below) ... I don't know how that happened

the t-key on my keyboard started sticking and then everything went haywire ... with new screens etc.

the two posts were identical -- or anyway the second was intended as an edit of the first, so, I'll delete this one

I think my keyboard died ... I shut down and plugged in another keyboard ... it wouldn't pass bios test

this is a third kb -- it seems ok but now the space bar is sticking ... yikes the kb buffer in my mobo is dying??

we had a huge lightling strike ... blew all the fuses in the house ... hope my mobos survived ... supposedly they were protected by UPS

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edited to remove chatty stuff, it's WAY too long as it is, and full of errors

tomasz86, thanks for the effort at setting up the 2k archive ... it’s REALLY helpful for me

you were right I shouldn't have deleted a prior post from more than a few days ago ... I hope I have reconstructed it, and then add some further research

I’ll go thru your files one by one, but I have an embarassing question to add at the end

(If a file on your list didn't raise a question, it's not listed)

sorry for the length -- I don't like posts this long but it should read fast

hopefully this should wrap up the file list questions

a lot of the length concerns the 3 usb files

=1=gurglemeyers final version

--w2ksp51

the majorgeeks version is 04/19/2006 22:43 EST(GMT-4 or -5) v.2195.21_final 219,932,672 b, md5 6a4e816c9e26fc44bb4b576de06da82d

on his page for 2k with nlite, Kurt Aust posts a “refresh” version

07/14/06 06:44 EDT (GMT-4) v.2195.24_refresh 291,898,368 b, md5 b86f9385cbf2fbd3053492fd00cfa598

majorgeeks site has ~99k downloads -- stick with the final (majorgeeks April 06) version, per your screenshot

=2=DX9

--directx_Jun2010-W2KFP_redist.exe

in your opinion, is dx gaming is worth the weight? my video is GeForce 7300 with 256 meg DDR2 on core2duo e7200 with 2048 meg DDR2?

I have a copy of your directx_9c-W2KFP_redist.exe (cabs dated 23 jun 2011) ... if it's still any good

Thanks for posting a copy of your dx9 gaming x86-only on your archive site.

(deleted some worthless comments)

=3=

--Windows2000-KB2483185-x86-custom-ENU.EXE

this file is on your spoiler list, but not on Bristols’ list

it's also listed here http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9254&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=kb2483185&start=93

=4=server rollup

--Windows2000-UpdateRollup2-SrvExt-v2-x86-ENU.exe

do you include server rollup in your 2K builds? ... may as well build the 2k slip cd with server, even if server doesn't get installed

=5= swflash

--Swflash.cab is v.11.4.402.265

this installs flash plugin for ie6sp1?

do you know if flash plugin for Firefox will conflict with flash plugin for IE6?, if I have different versions flash?

I'll probably just leave it out, and install flash by exe

there are some coments out there somewhere claiming that flash v.11.1.102.55 was the highest that would run on 2k?

=6= usb

--usbd.sys

--usbhub.sys

--usbser.sys

where do these come from?

edit removed stuff that is discussed in a msfn thread by pointertovoid that I had missed ... link to thread below

from the site "USB hotfixes for 2000" http://blogs.msdn.com/b/usbcoreblog/archive/2009/11/13/list-of-the-latest-usb-hotfixes-for-each-windows-version.aspx there are 11 HBR files for 2k

based on the filelists in the respective KBs, all but 3 are superceded as follows

2 kbs still needed

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/838417

2 kbs included in UU-v10c as kb838989.cat? and as kb843503

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/838989

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/843503

if that's the case, the result is

might still need? HBR 838417
kb838417 Usbd.sys 5.0.2195.7008 07-Dec-2004 12:37 20752
kb838417 Usbser.sys 5.0.2195.7006 02-Dec-2004 10:32 22768

incl. in UU-v10c
kb838989 Hccoin.dll 5.1.2600.1331 10-Jan-2004 13:25 5632
kb838989 Usbccgp.sys 5.1.2600.1331 10-Jan-2004 13:26 30464
kb838989 Usbehci.sys 5.1.2600.1359 02-Mar-2004 02:40 25216
kb838989 Usbhub.sys 5.1.2600.1331 10-Jan-2004 13:26 53120
kb838989 Usbohci.sys 5.1.2600.1331 10-Jan-2004 13:26 16000
kb838989 Usbport.sys 5.1.2600.1364 16-Mar-2004 17:10 138880
kb838989 Usbuhci.sys 5.1.2600.1331 10-Jan-2004 13:26 19328
kb843503 Hidclass.sys 5.0.2195.6882 12-Dec-2003 18:19 24752
kb843503 Uhcd.sys 5.0.2195.6882 12-Dec-2003 17:37 32944
kb843503 Usb.inf 07-Jun-2004 23:46 32543
kb843503 Usbhub20.sys 5.0.2195.6891 17-Jan-2004 02:06 50032

back to the 3 you listed (usbd.sys, usbhub.sys, usbser.sys)

1. it looks like the 1st and 3rd (usbd.sys, usbser.sys) came from 838417

2. it look like theh 2nd (usbhub.sys) was already included in UU-v10c with 838989.cat (.cat=?)

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=8=1 file that I couldn't find

(edit -- I am such a noob -- Windows2000-UU-KB926139-v2-x86-ENU.exe was right there on your site)

still looking for Windows2000-XP-2003-MSRDP52-x86-ENU.exe

MSRDP = ?Microsoft Remote Desktop Protocol, = Remote Desktop Connection, = Terminal Services Client

one thread said this file replaces HFSVCPACK_SW1\Windows2000-KB958470-x86-ENU.EXE (RDC 5.1 xp)

this thread

gives a reg file that sets 3 killbits for 2k systems that do not want to install RDC ...

=9=boot.bin

no problem ... I see from mimo's site that I can rename my boot files as extracted by ImgBurn

=10=defrag cmds

Defrag.cmd

HFSLIP_POST_Defrag.cmd

this defrags inf files?

(edit == stupid questions follow) do these call defrag.exe, as per http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283080?

can I extract defrag.exe from a cab in my XPsp3 oem with out installing (I'm short on hdds right now) otherwise install XP and find?

this is an awesome idea ... also defragging the page file using system internals pagedefrag

(edit removed a rant abouit MS defrag api not allowing full defrag of folders in FAT32 file installs -- very very nasty!)

==edit add==

=11=

filever.exe

reg.exe

are versions from 2ksp4 ok?

--reg.exe is v 2.0.0.0, 49,424 b, 08/16/02

--filever.exe is v 5.0.2195.6601, 14,096 b, 06/19/13

filever.exe v. 5.2.3790.3959 (srv03_sp2_rtm.070216-1710), 02/17/07, 14,848b, is in support cab for Win2K3

reg.exe v. 5.2.3790.3959 (srv03_sp2_rtm.070216-1710), 02/17/07, 80,384b is in I386 folder in w2k3

=12=fred vork files?

cmdow.exe

modifyPE.exe

are they needed for regular install with ie6?

=13=rar

rar.exe

I have 2005 version v.3.51 ... it was a gift from rar to all members of msfn back when

a lot of people won't have this file, but 7z is supposed to unpack rar files.

I see that hfslip has a command line that calls rar.exe to -e a rar file.

= 0 = now the big one

[edit-- ignore this question I built a bartPE with Partition Magic 8.01, Easus 6.11 and Total Commander ... it only takes a couple of minutes to protect a drive now)

I have to use hardware to test builds

question, if I start with a blank new hdd,

partition it with my favorite preinstall

1 active partition (NTFS) and 1 extended part containing 1 logical partition (NTFS)

and then install 2k or xp on the active partition in that hdd

then without hiding that active partition

if I insert that hdd into another system

on a data disk channel only (not in bios boot sequence)

and so I boot from another hdd, say 2k or xp

I know (haha -- like I know anything when it comes to MS)

that the boot system will give that new hdd a good looking over

and I'm pretty sure it will detect the existence of an active partition containing a competing MS operating system?

but will the boot system alter the active partition in the data disk, to protect itself.

I remember doing that ONCE back when, with 95 or 98 to 98se or something

I can't remember which system was booted, but without any warning,

the boot system on primary IDE destroyed neutralized or whatever

the system on the secondary IDE channel

I was not very happy ... no warning

basically I have a system hdd on a channel which bios sets as bootable, with 1 active partiton with a system installed,

and I add a data hdd, with 1 active partiton and another os system installed, but on a data channel, not in boot sequence per bios

will the boot channel hdd change stuff on the data channel hdd, so that when the new hdd is returned to its system, it can't boot no more

what do you use your as pre-intall env to manage your new hdds? I tried using my trusty dos Partition Magic 8.01,

but for the first time ever, it disallowed me from converting an active partiton with to a hidden one --

and that was when I was booting from dos, from the floppy! (yikes! I still use floppies!!)

Before I insert that drive into another system for backup, I want to know the new os won't kill the old os

thus, are there any precautions I should take before I slip a new hdd with an active partition and a ms system installed on it, into an existing ms system?

confusing kind of question I guess ... arghh

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thanks submix8c ... I'm learning ... and appreciate everyone's patience and tolerance more than you can imagine

I appreciated that empathetic OUCH man ... I lost 2 keyboards on the same day

of course that fact that I used a firehose to wash out the hairballs and potatoes growing under the keys

(they were that dirty) ... on top of that it looks like I posted two long too long posts that can be boiled down to just 3 questions

@tomasz == my absurdly long post can be boiled down to three questions

1 instead of the 3 usbfiles (usbd.sys, usbhub.sys, usbser.sys)

(source unknown ... I assume are from HBR KB838417-Fix113582 ...)

why not just slip the 2 exe files that are included in the the download?

Windows2000-KB838417-x86-ENU.EXE, 377,336 b, 12/08/2004

Windows2000-KB838417-x86-ENU-Symbols.EXE, 65,528 b, 12/08/2004

(also, it looks like the usbser.sys might be 2kserver? -- in that case run the "latest" fileset from HBR 838417 -- see item 8 long post)

2 should HBR KB843540 be included? Openhci.sys 5.0.2195.6940 11-Jun-2004 21:04 25072

it contains two files Windows2000-KB843540-x86-ENU.EXE, 330,232 b, 06/11/2004

Windows2000-KB843540-x86-ENU-symbols.EXE, 48,632 b, 06/11/2004

3 for systems that do not have Remote Desktop installed

does Windows2000-XP-2003-MSRDP52-x86-ENU.exe run in the reg file to set 3 killbits as per this post

in that case, can I just run the regfile?

(the rest of the too long post is me talking out loud while I try to figure stuff out ...

it may be helpful for you in setting up interface for noobs like me ...

it belongs in a dropbox, which I don't know how to do yet

sorry ... and THANKS!!

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I just logged on to write you the same thing ... I wanted to dig into the USB thing but I see it's already been done

I just read the thread for the HBR mini rollup

pointertovoid and bristols had already done the research etc. ... at first I thought maybe his computer was hanging when he pulled his USB modem because he had not included 843540

but when I looked again at the USB file list, I see that Openhci.sys 5.0.2195.6940 11-Jun-2004 25072 (KB843540) was already included in KB843503, which is already included in UU-v10c

thus I made another BAD when I said that KB843503 was missing ... the only file it carries is included in 843503 which is in UU-v10c

then, I noticed that my mobo bios has options as regards USB as follows

1. USB Controller [enable | disable] -- this allows enable or disable of USB controller

2. USB Device LEGACY SUPPORT [enable | disable] -- per manual "select enable if you need to use a USB-interfaced device in the operating system" (typical wierd bios speak)

maybe pointertovoid was getting hangs because his bios wasn't handling a legacy modem

(if his modem is USB modem, it is probably "legacy" = early USB version, for use in older mobos and OSs)

whatever legacy USB means (arghh) ... and on and on my ignorance goes forever

I have the feeling USB is something that has to be tested in a hardwire environment

No hurries ... that can only do one thing ... compound a already complex solution

===

there are various core files that HFSLIP needs

(like 7z, reg.exe, and other exe and reg files etc.)

they should just go ahead and be packed with the rest of HFSLIP

For example, if filever and reg.exe need special versions, that would save a lot of people a lot of hunting around.

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USB Device LEGACY SUPPORT [enable | disable]

Yes, very confusing BIOS-speak. It means USB Keyboard and/or Mouse is attached for e.g. DOS or Safe-Mode (no "driver" required) BUT the OS will install it as a USB Human Interface Device. AFAIK, it has nothing to do with "other" devices, particularly (as you mentioned) a USB Modem which requires a Driver to function at all. That's the best description I can give ATM.

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