MagicAndre1981 Posted December 18, 2012 Author Share Posted December 18, 2012 do you apply group policy settings? Are the apps installed there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabdub Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 do you apply group policy settings? Are the apps installed there?I found the cause ....I had customized my default start screen following this :http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj134269.aspxI had appsfolderlayout.bin in there and as soon as I removed it, login time went below 15secs for new users.Now I need to try the other 2 methods for customizing the start screen because I need to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted December 19, 2012 Author Share Posted December 19, 2012 great to hear that you found the cause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmz7 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Hi all. Usually I discover solutions for my problems myself... But this confused me.This happens with normal boot (or restart).System stuck at booting with logo and rolling dots almost for 10 minutes, with some cpu load and no HDD activity, then boots up normally. It begins about month ago, I dont know when and after what. I use only sleep and hibernation, reboot only after updates and BSODs (sometimes it crash when going to sleep, thanks for nvidia). I can't google something similar problems.In trace I found that one thread (472 in this trace) in System process starts after autochk end, and stuck for large time, and booting resumed after it ends. I tried to uninstall AV, and tried to disable autochk, but no success. HDD is good too.Fast boot working good, but it not needed for me....etl file here https://www.dropbox.com/s/38ylwjcdgumr7gt/boot_BASE%2BCSWITCH%2BDRIVERS%2BPOWER_1.7zCan someone help me?PS: Sorry for my bad english.summary_boot.xml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DosProbie Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Hi all. Usually I discover solutions for my problems myself... But this confused me.This happens with normal boot (or restart).System stuck at booting with logo and rolling dots almost for 10 minutes, with some cpu load and no HDD activity, then boots up normally. It begins about month ago, I dont know when and after what. I use only sleep and hibernation, reboot only after updates and BSODs (sometimes it crash when going to sleep, thanks for nvidia). I can't google something similar problems.In trace I found that one thread (472 in this trace) in System process starts after autochk end, and stuck for large time, and booting resumed after it ends. I tried to uninstall AV, and tried to disable autochk, but no success. HDD is good too.Fast boot working good, but it not needed for me....etl file here https://www.dropbox....RS%2BPOWER_1.7zCan someone help me?PS: Sorry for my bad english.If you havent already done this try:1.Go into msconfig, click on "Services" tab and check off "Hide all Microsoft services"2.Then go to "Startup" tab and disable tasks.3.Now go and reboot and check again and see if that makes a difference for you..4.If Not and 472 is the culprit see what pid 472 is and if its needed or not. go to task manager > click on "Details" tab and look for the PID 472 and .exe file its using.. then you can kill it from commandline: Pid number => C:\>Taskkill /PID 472 /F or Pid .exe => %windir%\system32\taskkill /f /im file.exe >nul 2>&1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmz7 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 I tried to clean autostart. No difference. This problem occured even in safe mode boot.472 is thread of "System" process (pid 4). And how i can kill process in booting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DosProbie Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 I tried to clean autostart. No difference. This problem occured even in safe mode boot.472 is thread of "System" process (pid 4). And how i can kill process in booting?What OS are you using?Are you on a lap or desktop?Is windows updates Enabled?Are you using Google desktop?Uninstall your anti-virus and see if you still have issueRight-click and check that the priority is Normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted February 28, 2013 Author Share Posted February 28, 2013 ok, you must make a new trace with this command:xbootmgr -trace boot -traceFlags BASE+CSWITCH+POWER+profile -stackwalk profilethis also captures CPU sampling data so that I can see more details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmz7 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 done... https://www.dropbox.com/s/a850p0sx4qjhmqy/boot_BASE%2BCSWITCH%2BPOWER%2Bprofile_1.7z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted February 28, 2013 Author Share Posted February 28, 2013 ok. checking the registry causes the high CPU usage of the Kernel (SYSTEM) and this causes the long boot delay:Run this:xbootmgr -trace boot -traceFlags BASE+CSWITCH+POWER+REGISTRY -stackwalk RegQueryKey+RegEnumerateKey+RegCreateKey+RegOpenKey+RegCloseKeyto capture registry data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmz7 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Ouch... Looks like i found problem.. I have a lot of "DRIVERS{...}.TM.blf" files in config registry folder (36000+!!), and my SOFTWARE puffed up to 1.2GB! WTF!??It is possible to fix this without reinstall system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmz7 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Found lots of wrong keys in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup\PnpLockdownFiles\ with %SystemRoot%/system32/spool/DRIVERS/ paths... will try to clean it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DosProbie Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Ouch... Looks like i found problem.. I have a lot of "DRIVERS{...}.TM.blf" files in config registry folder (36000+!!), and my SOFTWARE puffed up to 1.2GB! WTF!??It is possible to fix this without reinstall system?Well I learned a long time ago, sometimes it just a heck of a lot easier and faster to just cut your loses and do a reinstall and be done with it, instead of spending hours and hours trying to p*** in the dark.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmz7 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 It will be easier for me to write small tool for clean registry and use it with livecd... I have lot of big software installed, and restoring all can kill much time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 yor NVIDIA GeForce GT 555M maybe the cause. There is a topic on Technet where users also have large CONFIG folder:http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w8itprogeneral/thread/6efbf453-aec3-4cfc-b6e0-de9dc5e6a99cA solution is to stop the "NVIDIA Stereoscopic 3D Driver" service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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