tomasz86 Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 Just a short update:I'm still fighting with .NET 4.0. I've managed to fix a lot of errors but there are still some issues left. I've just uploaded the first experimental version to the SkyDrive archive. It doesn't require any other Framework but UURollup (ENU) is necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acus Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 @Tomaszhttp://ge.tt/4FNTaCK/v/0?clog for NETFX4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomasz86 Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 (edited) I have a couple of applications that require .NET Framework 4.0 and I can't use them on Windows 2000 because of that limitation.Could you tell me names of the applications concerned? I'd like to check if they work with .NET 4.0 installed.@acusThanks. Everything as expected. The uninstaller is not complete yet. Edited July 8, 2012 by tomasz86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 I have a couple of applications that require .NET Framework 4.0 and I can't use them on Windows 2000 because of that limitation.Could you tell me names of the applications concerned? I'd like to check if they work with .NET 4.0 installed.Well, I'm into editing a game called Zelda, Ocarina of Time. There's a utility a member created on another community called SharpOcarina. It's available from www.glitchkill.tk. It requires .NET 4.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomasz86 Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 @Do you mean this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) @tomasz86That's exactly what I'm talking about! Edited July 9, 2012 by SearanoX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomasz86 Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) @So I can confirm that it works with the .NET 4.0 installed but please wait for the final version Edit: It was too good to be true. The program indeed can be started and you can even start creating something but then it crashes when trying to either save your project or open an another one. There is something wrong with .NET 4.0 and Win2k which prevents it from running. At the moment only a very limited usability is provided. Probably only a very simple .NET 4.0 applications will run while all of the more complicated ones will crash at some moment. Edited July 9, 2012 by tomasz86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Maybe or maybe not, I know another program that uses .NET 2.0 and works on Windows 2000 is Utility of Time and I know that it was buggy on Windows 2000 as well. If I remember correctly, the program was based off some code from that other program. I'm using Vista for the time being until we can get my other problem sorted out so there's no rush on it. Would using the program in conjunction with KDW help as I think it solved a few of my problems with UoT, or is it strictly a .NET problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomasz86 Posted July 10, 2012 Author Share Posted July 10, 2012 This is a problem related to .NET 4.0 and Win2k compatiblity It's got nothing to do with the particular application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomasz86 Posted July 11, 2012 Author Share Posted July 11, 2012 As the .NET Framework 4.0 compatibility and usability is extremely limited I'm considering not integrating it until (?) there is any workaround available. Accordingly, I'm also thinking about using BlackWingCat's kernel instead of the one from WildBill. BlackWingCat's kernel supports more APIs and has been very actively developed. It also allows to have uxtheme.dll present in %systemroot%\system32. The only disadvantage of using it is that .NET Framework 4.0 applications don't run at all (there's an error on startup). On the other hand, with WildBill's kernel they do start but still only very simple ones (like this one) work while others don't work anyway Together with switching to BlackWingCat's kernel32.dll it will also be possible to use some other files depending on it.What do you think about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppgrainbow Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 As the .NET Framework 4.0 compatibility and usability is extremely limited I'm considering not integrating it until (?) there is any workaround available. Accordingly, I'm also thinking about using BlackWingCat's kernel instead of the one from WildBill. BlackWingCat's kernel supports more APIs and has been very actively developed. It also allows to have uxtheme.dll present in %systemroot%\system32. The only disadvantage of using it is that .NET Framework 4.0 applications don't run at all (there's an error on startup). On the other hand, with WildBill's kernel they do start but still only very simple ones (like this one) work while others don't work anyway Together with switching to BlackWingCat's kernel32.dll it will also be possible to use some other files depending on it.What do you think about it?I personally believe that switching to BlackWingCat's kernel32.dll is a very good idea. I sure hope that the bugs get ironed out before the switch occurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomasz86 Posted July 13, 2012 Author Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) I've uploaded several new experimental versions of the merged .NET Framework installer. I'll be very thankful for testing the newest one and this time I'd also like to ask for an additional step:- after performing the "standard" testing procedure please go to Windows Update and check if there are any .NET related updates available (there should be none but....).In order to use Windows Update you must have IE6 installed (it won't work in IE5) so you'd better install USP5.1 in advance (IE6 is integrated in it). If WU still doesn't work then you may need to install Windows Update Agent manually before accessing it. Edited July 13, 2012 by tomasz86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackeronte Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 @tomasz86 Sorry for my late reply, tomasz (busy, conn down, vacations etc.) Don't worry, as soon as possible i'll check those lists ( #87 )regardshackeronte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackeronte Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 (edited) @tomasz86 ( #87 )Here are some results check 'em, pleaseasp.dll version: 5.0.2195.6672 language: Italiano (Italia) C:\WINNT\ServicePackFiles\i386asp.dll version: 5.0.2195.7084 language: Italiano (Italia) C:\WINNT\system32\inetsrvdbgeng.dll Not Foundexplorer.exe version: 5.0.3700.6690 language: Italiano (Italia) C:\WINNTexplorer.exe version: 5.0.3700.6690 language: Italiano (Italia) C:\WINNT\ServicePackFiles\i386halaacpi.dll version: 5.0.2195.6691 language: Inglese (Stati Uniti d'America) C:\WINNT\ServicePackFiles\i386halacpi.dll version: 5.0.2195.6691 language: Inglese (Stati Uniti d'America) C:\WINNT\ServicePackFiles\i386halapic.dll version: 5.0.2195.6691 language: Inglese (Stati Uniti d'America) C:\WINNT\ServicePackFiles\i386halborg.dll version: 5.0.2195.6655 language: Inglese (Stati Uniti d'America) C:\WINNT\ServicePackFiles\i386halmacpi.dll version: 5.0.2195.7006 language: Inglese (Stati Uniti d'America) C:\WINNT\Driver Cache\i386halmacpi.dll version: 5.0.2195.6691 language: Inglese (Stati Uniti d'America) C:\WINNT\ServicePackFiles\i386halmps.dll version: 5.0.2195.6691 language: Inglese (Stati Uniti d'America) C:\WINNT\ServicePackFiles\i386halsp.dll version: 5.0.2195.6655 language: Inglese (Stati Uniti d'America) C:\WINNT\ServicePackFiles\i386html32.cnv version: 2003.1100.8165.0 language: Italiano (Italia) C:\Programmi\File comuni\Microsoft Shared\TextConvinfocomm.dll version: 5.0.2195.7147 language: Italiano (Italia) C:\WINNT\system32\inetsrvinfocomm.dll version: 5.0.2195.6709 language: Italiano (Italia) C:\WINNT\ServicePackFiles\i386msconfig.exe Not Foundmsconv97.dll version: 2003.1100.8165.0 language: Lingua di sistema C:\Programmi\File comuni\Microsoft Shared\TextConvmswrd6.wpc version: 2009.10.31.10 language: Italiano (Italia) C:\Programmi\Windows NT\Accessorimswrd632.wpc version: 2009.10.31.10 language: Inglese (Stati Uniti d'America) C:\Programmi\File comuni\Microsoft Shared\TextConvmswrd8.wpc version: 2009.10.31.10 language: Italiano (Italia) C:\Programmi\Windows NT\Accessorimswrd832.cnv version: 2003.1100.8313.0 language: Italiano (Italia) C:\Programmi\File comuni\Microsoft Shared\TextConvnormaliz.dll Not Foundntkrnlmp.exe version: 5.0.2195.6717 language: Italiano (Italia) C:\WINNT\ServicePackFiles\i386ntkrnlmp.exe version: 5.0.2195.7376 language: Italiano (Italia) C:\WINNT\Driver Cache\i386ntkrpamp.exe version: 5.0.2195.6717 language: Italiano (Italia) C:\WINNT\ServicePackFiles\i386ntkrpamp.exe version: 5.0.2195.7376 language: Italiano (Italia) C:\WINNT\Driver Cache\i386openal32.dll Not Foundreg.exe Not Foundspuninst.exe version: 6.3.13.0 language: Inglese (Stati Uniti d'America) C:\WINNT\$NtUninstallUURollup-v3a$\spuninstwordpad.exe version: 5.0.2195.7155 language: Italiano (Italia) C:\Programmi\Windows NT\Accessoriwordpad.inf C:\WINNT\infwrap_oal.dll Not Foundwrite.wpc version: 2009.10.31.10 language: Italiano (Italia) C:\Programmi\Windows NT\Accessoriwrite32.wpc version: 2009.10.31.10 language: Inglese (Stati Uniti d'America) C:\Programmi\File comuni\Microsoft Shared\TextConvwscript.hlp C:\WINNT\Helpwscript.hlp C:\WINNT\$NtUninstallUURollup-v3a$xpsp3res.dll Not Foundxpsp4res.dll Not Foundregards,hackeronte Edited July 15, 2012 by Hackeronte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomasz86 Posted July 15, 2012 Author Share Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) @HackeronteNo problem with your late reply. Take your time We shouldn't try to be too quick in preparing this thing.Out of the files these don't require any translation:halaacpi.dllhalacpi.dllhalapic.dllhalborg.dllhalmacpi.dllhalmacpi.dllhalmps.dllhalsp.dlldbgeng.dllmswrd632.wpcwrite32.wpcwrap_oal.dllopenal32.dllYou can safely move them to FILES.1. The following files:msconv97.dllmswrd8.wpchtml32.cnvmswrd6.wpcmswrd832.cnvwrite.wpccan be found in KB921606 and KB973904. Please download the ITA versions, unpack them and copy the required ones to FILES.2. msconfig.exexpsp3res.dllcan be found in KB906569. As in the previous case, just download, unpack and copy the required files to FILES. If there are GDR and QFE files available always choose QFE.3. normaliz.dllcan be found in IE8.4. wordpad.execan be found in KB979687.5. reg.execan be found in Win2K3 support.cab.6. wscript.hlpcan be copied from C:\WINNT\Help to FILES. Make sure it's in Italian.7. wordpad.infwill have to be modified. Could you compare your ITA version with the one from UURollup?8. xpsp4res.dllis present in many XP updates. If you see it in one of the updates you've downloaded then you can copy it to FILES.9. These files will have to be translated (but let's wait for a while before starting doing it):asp.dllexplorer.exeinfocomm.dllntkrnlmp.exentoskrnl.exentkrpamp.exentkrnlpa.exeEdit: By the way, at the end it seems that there are much fewer files to translate than I initially thought there would be. It's actually very good news because I may think of preparing a Polish version of UURollup later on.There are two more files to translate which are absent from the list though:browseui.dllshell32.dllThey are present in the xpsp2_binarydrop directory. Edited July 16, 2012 by tomasz86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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