ideas Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 HTPC & GAMING PCHi guys i need your expertise opinion on building my new Workstation, this would be used for Media Server, HTPC and for my Gaming, this will be sharing to 3 more pc, 1 laptop and 3 external RDP users. So they will be accessing all videos, Quickbooks, music, office files. This server i would prefer not to power off at nights, should run 24/7s. now i would like to play any Games on this machine, do graphic or video editing, rendering, etc. Now my most important question is, will i be making the right choice to run my games on this Asus P8B WS with Xeon E3-1245 and ECC memory, why am using these is because of more stability, tired of windows crashing but with enough power to do all i need. S will the server mb with xeon cpu and ecc memory hinder me from playing games? Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit1) 42 Inch 120Hz 3D LED 1080P HDTV2) 32 Inch 120Hz 3D LED 1080P HDTV3) 22" LCD monitorASUS P8B WS LGA 1155 Intel C206 ATX Intel Xeon E3 Server/Workstation Motherboard $219.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131725&Tpk=ASUS%20P8B%20WSMB Full specshttp://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8B_WS/Intel Xeon E3-1245 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Server Processor BX80623E31245 $279.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115086CPU Full Specshttp://ark.intel.com/products/52274/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1245-%288M-Cache-3_30-GHz%298gb Kingston ECC Unbuffered DDR3 1333 Server Memory Model KVR1333D3E9S/4G $69.98http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139077EVGA SuperClocked 02G-P3-1469-RX GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $236.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130765Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SSD $174.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442Seagate Barracuda Green ST2000DL003 2TB 5900 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" $119.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148681CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply $89.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020LG Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 4MB Cache SATA 12X Super Multi Blue with 3D Playback & M-DISC Support WH12LS39 LightScribe Support $79.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136241Zalman GS1000 SE - Full tower - extended ATX $169.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811235030VS SAME SPECS EXCEPT XEON AND ECCIntel Core i7-2600 Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623I72600 $299.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115071CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model CMX8GX3M2A1333C9 $47.99http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145315 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puntoMX Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I would build 2 computers, one server and your personal one, and use a KVM swith. I'm sure you thought about that but why are you going for only one system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ideas Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 1) am at a $1500 budget2) this must be a reliable and Beefy Machine for my jobs to be done, 3) especially when am out of town & need files from my pc or do my personal accounting with quickbooks4) check the status on my video being rendered and not crash before completion5) as i've said my 2 kids are streaming media from that main pc via NComputing L300, along my wife (NComputing L300) plus my personal Laptop6) my wife does accounting from home, so she may need access to other files when she's at a client or on the road.7) we watch Bluray movies on our 42"8) plus we play massive Gaming on Sundays on our 32" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madock Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 “why am using these is because of more stability, tired of windows crashing but with enough power to do all i need”.Ecc ram won’t help you to face hazardous OS installation, unstable o/c settings and drivers. Asus P8B WS is design for entry level workstations and servers with sas ability (SASsaby) on 206 chipset.As many other Mobos it supports up to 32 Go ram. Considering the lower and affordable price at 1333 MHz, why don't you start with 16 Go? 4 slots filled with 4 Go each. If one piece crashes, you have still two others working in Dual channel. You just need to take out the crashed one and its opposite and you can till work with 8 Go.Gamers usually prefer higher ram frequencies, above 1866 MHz. JEDEC hasn't validate more than 1600 MHz. But ecc quality at 1600 MHz is a completely other money form factor...For higher fps in games it is better to take higher frequencies, latency is secondary. That means heat, fans, noise... (HTPC requires silent) and losing warranty.E3-xxx5 series has iGPU that is equal to FX 580. Only 32 CUDA Cores.If you take the EVGA 02G-P3-1469-RX with 336 CC, you probably don't need iGPU. But a higher bandwidth avoiding NOPs. 16 Go ram do fine.Considering quality, a warranty of 5 years for SSDs with professional support and tools is fine. Commonly 120 Go SSDs are given for a workload of 30 Go writes a day.Same for PSU, P8B WS needs just ATX V2 and above. If you” prefer not to power off at nights, should run 24/7s”, a PSU with 24/7 and at least 3 years warranty would be a good choice. 650 W means 1000 VA power protection (VA=W/0.66, as a general rule of thumb). If you are not going to o/c, you probably not need that much power (electricity bill).With 16 Go ram, you have about 16 Go pagefile and 12 Go of hiberfil. That means that you will start with 111,6 GO on a 128 Go SSD after formatting. Once installed, win7@64 will take about 40 Go (incl. hiber and pagefile). 71 Go left! At 24/7 you will turn off hiberfil.sys and recover those 12 Go, so 83 Go left.At least, the old fashioned Noctua NH-C12P SE14 works great for both, CPU and low profiled ram.Coming soon, without ecc compatibility: Asus P8Z77 WS. This could be a better choice considering cooling, ram frequencies and connectivity.Are you sure about the 206 chipset of the P8B ws?Hoping this helps!System : P8B WS, E3-1275, 16 Go ecc ram (KVR1333D3E9S/4G), quadro 600, SSD KC100/120 Go and Seasonic S12II 430 Bronze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puntoMX Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 With 16 Go ram, you have about 16 Go pagefile and 12 Go of hiberfil. That means that you will start with 111,6 GO on a 128 Go SSD after formatting. Once installed, win7@64 will take about 40 Go (incl. hiber and pagefile). 71 Go left! At 24/7 you will turn off hiberfil.sys and recover those 12 Go, so 83 Go left.A pagefile is probably not needed so you can disable that as well. When the PC starts to complain it is better to put in more RAM. This also will give you a more stable system.Coming soon, without ecc compatibility: Asus P8Z77 WS. This could be a better choice considering cooling, ram frequencies and connectivity.That motherboard is out, about 350USD, and it's interesting to see how VIRTU works on the Z77 chipset.---Still, I would build a server and a personal work/gaming PC, not 3 things like server/work/gaming, that is just asking for trouble... Or/and ditch the Ncomputing office/kiosk stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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