Vista update KB951847

[Gray]

What a nightmare I'm having with this!

I'm a voluntary member of a charity where we rebuild and repair PC's and laptops for disabled people. Up until recently the machines we had in for repair or rebuilds were XP. I wipe them, stick in my XP CD with all the latest patches, activate online with the key on the PC or laptop and everything worked wonderfully.

Now most of the machines we get in are Vista. Sometimes the updates take around 6 hours to download and install, so I thought I'd have a go at building a Vista DVD with all the service pack and patches integrated. All went well with SP1 and SP2, and another 151 patches since SP2.

Now when I visit Windows Update it asks to install KB951847, which is where the fun starts. I've downloaded various versions, extracted them, not extracted them, all kinds of things and it still doesn't seem to be working.

If I extract the full version of 951847 I get two msu files (I think). I thought I'd just use vlite to integrate them, but no.

So my question is what am I doing wrong? Is there not a cab file or something for an AIO fully up to date .net pack for Vista x86? How can I get the updates for .net 3.5 slipstreamed into Vista? I've searched for ages around the internet and I'm just going round and around in circles.

Help! Please!

[Pixels]

Hello,

That update is for an older version of the dot net framework. Just download the full stand alone installer for that particular version of the dot net framework, which is 3.5. Or, just download the stand alone installer of the latest version of the dot net framework, which is version 4. Download it here http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=0a391abd-25c1-4fc0-919f-b21f31ab88b7 Not sure if you can slipstream it into Vista, though.

Also, l feel ya pain! I've just did a reinstall of Vista on my laptop and it took many hours to complete with all the updates. That was ridiculous and won't be happening again any time soon.

I've also been researching for reliable info on how to properly slipstream SP1 and SP2 with Windows Vista along with integrating all the latest drivers/updates. I wouldn't be worrying about this, but my laptop came with Vista and I'm not putting any more money into this 4-year-old machine. I'm happy with it. Just would like to be able to do quicker future installs.

If you would like to manually download all of the available updates to a specific folder for your version of Windows for future installs, have a look here. http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=8973 All you do is sort the updates by latest date (latest to oldest) and then select all of the ones you want. In your case, you only need the updates after service pack 2 (since you have that already integrated). You'll need to use Internet Explorer to be able to download them, though.

I just discovered this a week ago and I've already downloaded all the latest updates for my version of Vista to a (Vista Updates Folder). Window's built-in auto-update is slow because it has to search and then download all of these updates and install them. Hopefully by manually downloading these updates I can do quicker updating after future installs. It would be VERY nice to be able to slipstream everything to a custom install DVD(s) to get things done quicker without having to baby sit.

Please let me know if that helped your problem If not, hopefully someone else will try and help you.

By the way, how did you slipstream SP1 and SP2 into Vista?

Take care, bro!

Edited June 1, 2011 by Pixels

[Pixels]

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[Gray]

I used vlite (I think - it was a while ago). I haven't had any problems so far.

The other day I rebuilt a laptop for a lady whose hdd had died. It just so happened that she had tried to re-install Vista herself and when she gave me the laptop to repair she had left her Vista DVD in the drive, so I thought I'd use that. What a mistake that was.

Installed Vista. Downloaded updates. Rebooted. Downloaded more updates. Rebooted. Did this a few times. Downloaded and installed SP1. Rebooted. Downloaded and installed more updates and rebooted. Downloaded and installed SP2. Rebooted. Installed 151 updates since SP2 was released. Unbelievable. Because most of the machines are Vista I just had to do a new Vista disk with everything slipstreamed.

Interesting point about .net 4 though, I thought that was separate to .net 3.5? I thought it was .net 1.1, .net 3.5 and then .net 4? Or is that wrong?

Thanks for the links to the other sites, I'll give a couple of them a go.

Edited June 1, 2011 by Gray

[Pixels]

"The .NET Framework 4 is highly compatible with applications that are built with earlier .NET Framework versions, except for some changes that were made to improve security, standards compliance, correctness, reliability, and performance." http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms171868.aspx#application_compatibility_and_deployment and see here http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff602939.aspx

So, to sum it up, any older program written for an earlier version of the dot net framework should run on newer versions of it, according to the article. Here is more info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.NET_Framework

So, you used vLite to slipstream SP1 and SP2? How many disks did that take? From what I've read you can't slipstream SP2 into Vista with vLite and this is why I've never done it. Also, Microsoft advises against doing this because of problems with updating. But, who cares what Microsoft thinks, right? LOL

I did a custom install disk with XP with all the latest updates and tweaks with NO problems at all. Worked flawless. But never tried it with Vista because of all the potential problems that could arise. I guess it's better to try than not.

Another thing to remember, if service packs will be slipstreamed you'll only need the updates after the last service pack because the newer service pack contains all of the previous updates. I'm sure you're aware of this, but if you do any future custom install disks, it's something to keep in mind.

I've been looking around and came across these two articles. Pretty interesting.

CUSTOM VISTA INSTALL DISK

http://directedge.us/content/installing-vista-clean-with-no-crapware

ACTIVATION BACKUP

http://directedge.us/content/abr-activation-backup-and-restore

Let me know how things work out. Good luck!

[Gray]

I honestly thought I used vlite to slipstream SP2 into Vista... It was ages ago I did it, but apparently it's possible to do it not using vlite:

http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7222

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/230249-sliptream-vista-sp2.html

Not sure why this thread has been moved to the vlite forum though, it's not all about vlite but how to integrate .net into Vista!

I know what you mean about integrating patches that are released since the service pack, but if you try and do that in vlite, sometimes the patches fail to install. It was the same with nlite. Whenever I rebuild my XP disk, I do it from a clean source. That only takes around 20 mins or so to do though. Creating a new build in vlite takes much much longer, but, as I say, if you try and integrate a couple or so patches, vlite fails to install them.

Still not sure how to integrate .net 4 into Vista having a further read around. I can't seem to find a way to download an msu or cab file. I am still looking. I'll report back if and when I get it sorted. Thanks again for your help.

Oh, and great find with the "back and restore activation" app, that could be really handy when I am rebuilding stuff offline.

[Pixels]

I can't seem to find a way to download an msu or cab file. I am still looking.

Have a look here http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/categories I can't believe I didn't mention this site to you to begin with! You should be able to find your answer (any answer for that matter) there.

Also, if you have the full version executable of the .net framework you should be able to extract it to a folder using WinRar. This way you can get at the file(s) you need. Not all executables can be open with WinRar.

Also, remember I said I downloaded all the latest updates for my version of Vista? I went and looked in that folder containing the .Net framework 4 (Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile ...indows Vista x64-based Systems (KB982670)) and there is a .msu file in there along with 2 executables. Not sure if any of this relates to your problem, but I thought I would let you know. See screen shot.

Here is the place to go to download all the updates for offline installations. http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/Thanks.aspx?id=140 This is Microsoft's official download site, so no need to worry about it being legit. You can download all the Service packs and all available updates for you version of Windows. You'll have to use Internet Explorer to download them. I could not download them with my other browser.

I hope you get things figured out! Wish I could be of more help, but my brain has reached it's busting point on this one. I guess I need to do a "fresh" install of knowledge. Of course, it wouldn't hurt if my brain had a faster processor. The one I was born with is pretty slow! I think I'm maxed out on the RAM up there too!

But hey, as long as there are computers, there will be headaches for us.

Please let me know if you get things figured out.

Take care and Good Luck!