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Trace Windows 7 boot/shutdown/hibernate/standby/resume issues


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  • 10 months later...

Is there a way to get this running on a Win7 install that I can't boot into?

I'd like to see where the boot up process stops before it gets to a BSOD 0x7b

Thanks,

Docfxit

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Have it ever occur that some of these problems are issues with janky hardware and drivers.  Some of them maybe with janky bios and buggy ACPI power states.  I have nver had these kinda issues in this thread but here is my 2 cents stop using s4 and hybrid sleep and hibernate.

For mpeople who are setting up their own computers, and installing windows and drivers themselfs, this isn't a complicated issue to fix.  It very simple you install one thing at a time until it breaks then you know what your problem is and you never have any issues.

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A bit of a necro-post to add my own experience with Hibernate.

I've tried all the solutions suggested as regards BIOS/UEFI, wake on LAN and power management settings but I'd regularly get my PC waking up from Hibernation apparently at random rather than when you used the keyboard. Except it was not random - I eventually found the culprit(s) were other electrical devices connected to my home's ring main.

But it was not just any device or a device plugged in the same mains electricity socket or even in the same room. It was two particular TVs and either of their digital STBs. Nothing else I've tested has the same effect - not a microwave, powerful lamp, heater, hairdryer, hi-fi or anything drawing significant current, it is just those two TVs.

Put the PC into Hibernation then turn on either TV/STB and it'll wake the PC nine times out of ten. But if I turn the TV/STB on before Hibernation there is no problem and if I turn the TV/STB off whilst it is in Hibernation, in the same circumstances, there is no problem either.

It would seem that Hibernation maybe storing the electrical state of the system. There has to be a residual current being used to be able to wake the PC up from the USB keyboard. Turning the TV/STBs on must be being detected and treated as a keyboard stroke. But why only those two devices I can not begin to guess.    

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What do I have to do when ASUS P5KPL-VM won't wake up the monitor? 
The monitor goes to sleep mode once I sleep the PC as well. When I wake up the PC, everything works (mouse, keyboard, fans, HDD, etc.), but the monitor stays in standby mode and doesn't wake up. When I force the monitor ON, it stays on black screen and after few second goes to standby mode itself. 
The monitor is connected to nvidia geforce gt730 via VGA cable. I tried with another monitor with its own VGA cable and the result is the same issue. 
This started since last December and until now the only possible action is to switch off the power of the PC and then to power on. Then, when the PC runs, the monitor is on too. 
Through all the time I red and tried tones of suggestions: power plans, advanced power options, drivers, etc. and nothing helps. 
Any help and ideas about how to fix this terrible problem? 
Big thanks in advance!

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I'd go into the BIOS and look at what display device is being used as priority. Also check Device Manager to see if anything is flagged as problem.

Can you test other cable connection types ie. HDMI or Display Port for the same behaviour?

Are you using a dedicate VGA 15-pin DIN port or a dual purpose DVI-I port with VGA adapter?

Your MB  should have basic graphics output for situations like this so if you can attach the monitor to the MB rather than the GPU and test that it could point to where the problem might be ie. if it is an issue with the GPU.

 

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5 hours ago, WalksInSilence said:

I'd go into the BIOS and look at what display device is being used as priority. Also check Device Manager to see if anything is flagged as problem.

Can you test other cable connection types ie. HDMI or Display Port for the same behaviour?

Are you using a dedicate VGA 15-pin DIN port or a dual purpose DVI-I port with VGA adapter?

Your MB  should have basic graphics output for situations like this so if you can attach the monitor to the MB rather than the GPU and test that it could point to where the problem might be ie. if it is an issue with the GPU.

 

Where and what exactly to look for in the BIOS? I've never played with anything in my BIOS. 

In Device Manager everything is ok. 

I tried with HDMI cable 2 week ago. The same result - empty black screen, with the only difference that the monitor doesn't go automatically to standby mode as with VGA cable. 

The VGA cable is VGA to VGA (15-pin) which I use 10+ years. 

Last month I also tried with my old CRT monitor connected via its own VGA cable - absolutely the same black screen and going to standby mode too. 

I've also tried attaching the monitor to the MB graphics VGA output. Even after PC fresh start or restart the monitor doesn't respond at all, staying in standby mode. 

Just an absolutely unprecedented problem. 

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AFAIK ASUS MBs use the commonest method of accessing the BIOS screen and that is at boot or restart press the DEL (or DL, Delete) key when the MB logo appears. Sometimes you may need to hold the key down or tap it and the PC should boot into the BIOS (or UEFI : Unified Extensible Firmware Interface).

I have no idea what the ASUS BIOS gui looks like but if it is similar to Gigabyte MBs the graphics priority settings are under Peripherals  >  Init Display First.

Typically you'll have three or for options depending on the number of PCIe slots: IGFX prioritizes the MB onboard graphics and the other settings the GPU in whichever PCIe/PCI slot it is using. There may be another separate menu item: Internal Graphics, for enabling/disabling the internal graphics function.

From your description I'd guess the MB on board graphics are disabled rather than set to the default Auto. That maybe why you're getting nothing displaying when using the MB outputs.

It would be wrong for me to advise you to fiddle about with these settings or to go to the extreme solution of resetting the BIOS to default values in the hope of fixing the problem. But it can't hurt to look and note down the graphics display priority settings. It might be useful information to others who have more specialist knowledge of ASUS MBs.

Personally I'd go direct to ASUS and ask them about the problem if they have some trouble shooting facility or advice forum.

https://www.asus.com/supportonly/p5kplvm/helpdesk_knowledge/

My guess is that the trouble might be more likely a graphics card issue which is why I suggested trying the MB graphics outputs instead of the GPU.  

 

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On 2/23/2023 at 4:22 AM, WalksInSilence said:

AFAIK ASUS MBs use the commonest method of accessing the BIOS screen and that is at boot or restart press the DEL (or DL, Delete) key when the MB logo appears. Sometimes you may need to hold the key down or tap it and the PC should boot into the BIOS (or UEFI : Unified Extensible Firmware Interface).

I have no idea what the ASUS BIOS gui looks like but if it is similar to Gigabyte MBs the graphics priority settings are under Peripherals  >  Init Display First.

Typically you'll have three or for options depending on the number of PCIe slots: IGFX prioritizes the MB onboard graphics and the other settings the GPU in whichever PCIe/PCI slot it is using. There may be another separate menu item: Internal Graphics, for enabling/disabling the internal graphics function.

From your description I'd guess the MB on board graphics are disabled rather than set to the default Auto. That maybe why you're getting nothing displaying when using the MB outputs.

It would be wrong for me to advise you to fiddle about with these settings or to go to the extreme solution of resetting the BIOS to default values in the hope of fixing the problem. But it can't hurt to look and note down the graphics display priority settings. It might be useful information to others who have more specialist knowledge of ASUS MBs.

Personally I'd go direct to ASUS and ask them about the problem if they have some trouble shooting facility or advice forum.

https://www.asus.com/supportonly/p5kplvm/helpdesk_knowledge/

My guess is that the trouble might be more likely a graphics card issue which is why I suggested trying the MB graphics outputs instead of the GPU.  

 

I think I tried everything already. Removed the GT730 and connected the monitor to the onboard video (Intel G33/G31). Also disconnected the DVD and 2nd HDD from the power supply. Unfortunately, the result is still the same - the monitor doesn't wake up from sleep.
I also connected the monitor to my laptop via HDMI cable to test if it will wake up. Once I just closed the laptop (the screen down to the keyboard), the monitor went to empty "no signal" black screen as well together with the laptop. Then when I opened the laptop, the monitor showed up together with the laptop. So the monitor is ok.
Of course, during laptop sleeping, the monitor keeps staying ON, i.e. doesn't go to standby mode as it should if it was connected via VGA cable.

Let me know if I am wrong, but as long as I know and tested before, a PC can't let a monitor go to standby mode via HDMI as if as connected with VGA cable. Right?
But will a PC turn off automatically a monitor (sleep) via DVI cable or Display port-to-VGA cable or Display port-to-DVI cable?

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