doveman Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Thanks. That TVService causes a shutdown delay as well, as although it closes quickly, within 2s, it doesn't seem to tell Windows that it's closed and so Windows waits 12s or so before continuing. They're looking at that, I'll have to ask if anything can be done about the startup as well but probably not as the tuner card has to initialise, etc.Strangely though, on my next boot it was back down to 43s! I don't actually have much loading at startup at all, just the bare minimum and have left most stuff to be started as needed by the user. I probably will re-enable some things that really should be started automatically but I want to make sure the baseline is stable first.Compared to the boot you analysed and my last boot it showsMainPathBootTime 38563 vs 18469BootPostBootTime 46700 vs 23500I'll have to keep an eye on it for a few days and see if it behaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin79 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I'm having issues with my boot (and resume from hibernate) speeds. Will you please take a look and see if anything shows why? I've looked at the trace but it doesn't make sense to me.https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4GOZTpM3s6TanNVbXVwX09HOGc/edit?usp=sharing - The zip contains the cab, etl and xml files.The machine is a Lenovo ThinkPad T420 with Windows 7 Enterprise SP1 64bit. It also has 8GB of RAM, an Intel i5 running at 2.30GHz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted July 18, 2013 Author Share Posted July 18, 2013 first, your prefetcher is completey ruined: next the HDD is busy all the time: The disk queue is 75, which is bad. Also some servies are extremely slow to satrt: vmware-usbarbitrator (totalTransitionTimeDelta="98527"), vmware-converter (totalTransitionTimeDelta="13997"), VMwareHostd" (totalTransitionTimeDelta="14044"). Install the Enterprise Hotfix Rollup: http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/152622-hotfixes-for-faster-windows-7-bootstartup/?p=1034088 reduce the number of startet services and programs you load (you can start VMware service for expample later via a cmd, that's what I do) and run the optimization, I linked in the first post. See if this improves boot perfromance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doveman Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 I found this article about measuring Disk Latency.https://blogs.technet.com/b/askcore/archive/2012/02/07/measuring-disk-latency-with-windows-performance-monitor-perfmon.aspx?Redirected=trueI don't really understand it all but I did try looking at the Counters in Performance Monitor but it didn't really mean much to me.I guess what I really need is a way to monitor the latency / IO which also shows what activity is happening, which also logs it as it's almost impossible to catch things in real-time when everything is constantly changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted July 18, 2013 Author Share Posted July 18, 2013 (edited) the Resource Monitor shows the disk queue:http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/the-enterprise-cloud/use-resource-monitor-to-monitor-storage-performance/ Edited July 18, 2013 by MagicAndre1981 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xs32 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Hi MagicAndre - great thread.For the last 6 months, I've been experiencing the following issue at Windows 7 SP1 64bit Enterprise shutdown:- shutdown works fine when done within a couple hours of startup- shutdown takes forever (until ACPI? timeout and forced reboot) if the PC has been on for longer than that.I have captured a good shutdown and a bad shutdown file (etl) with BASE+CSWITCH+DRIVERS+POWER and loaded them up in the GUI but can't make much sense of the information. I think I need your expert help!This was the command I used (from the first post) xbootmgr -trace shutdown -noPrepReboot -traceFlags BASE+CSWITCH+DRIVERS+POWER -resultPath C:\TEMPGood and bad shutdowns are here:https://www.dropbox.com/sh/q3cb7o5tjhnrm9s/hVIwM_tK6cLet me know what you thinkThanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmohawk Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 your Disk is busy during boot. Reduce the IO load, to speed boot up.Also entering the password at logon (RequestCredentials) causes a delay of 11s:I wasn't sure if this response was directed towards me or not. . . . this was my ETL file: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwn6uLR04A1eUzlYcVVheVpuMkE/edit?usp=sharingThanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted July 19, 2013 Author Share Posted July 19, 2013 @xs32the plug & play service hangs for you. This causes the delay. But I have no idea how to fix this.@schmohawkyes, I was talking to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xs32 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Thanks MagicAndre. That's a step in the right direction. I'll do some more research and maybe unplug a couple USB devices i don't use on a regular basis to see if it helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin79 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 I stopped those services from starting automatically and ran the optimization process but it still didn't seem to help. Here is a new boot trace. Any ideas?https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4GOZTpM3s6Ta0owSGsyMUQyM0E/edit?usp=sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted July 22, 2013 Author Share Posted July 22, 2013 loading the profile is slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin79 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Is there a way to find out what in the profile is taking so long to load? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share Posted July 23, 2013 http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/10130.root-causes-for-slow-boots-and-logons-sbsl.aspxYou can alos try to do a bootlogging of ProcessMonitor:http://superuser.com/questions/594625/how-can-i-analyze-performance-issues-before-during-the-logon-process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin79 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 I ran Process Monitor with Boot Logging enabled. There are 5 processes that take over 45 seconds to run. The ones that really concern me at the lsass.exe processes. Looking through the other link, I don't see anything that applies to me. Any idea as to why those processes would be taking so long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share Posted July 23, 2013 I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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