oskingen Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 (edited) Hi dude, I've more for you:Windows 7 N => without notepadWindows 7 WM => without windows mailWindows 7 WME => without windows mail and internet explorerWindows 7 WMNE => without windows mail and notepad and internet explorerWindows 7 NN => without mediaplayer...and so onall in business utlimate familliale... releaseEt le top du topWindows 7 x 48 => without 'x' microsoft software and in 48bits specially for this f***ing EU and his antitrust lawEU start getting ridiculous Edited June 12, 2009 by hannubys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripredacus Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 IE will be there, just no icon or branding. I never understood why everyone makes a big deal about IE being in Windows. Its not like they are taking steps to stop you from using other browsers. Just because its there doesn't mean you have to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripken204 Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 so how are ppl suppose to dload FF without having IE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluberti Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 IE will be there, just no icon or branding.Well, sort of. IE is there, but all of the possible ways to execute IE other than hosted in a WBControl app will be gone. As far as getting IE8, you'll probably still be able to download it from Microsoft ultimately, and OEMs will be free to install it on machines if they so choose (along with any other browser). At least that's what the current plan is documented as, publicly. I wonder if it'll change before release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 From what I've read, IE8 will be distributed via free CDs. I think I also read something about being able to download it via FTP. There will be no browser to download a browser with. You won't even have email to have someone send it to you since they moved that to Windows Live Essentials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda43 Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 I'm just wondering, how MS is going to get their updates to you, without any way to connect to their internet web site. ???On Windows 7 Install DVD's, there should be an option, to install I.E. 8 or NOT to install it.If you already had Firefox, for instance, on a CD or flash drive, it wouldn't make a lot of difference whether the OS had a browser in it or not.Then there's the problem of FF not having ActiveX in it, to read that stupid MS web page.But if you install I.E. Tab into Firefox, you don't need I.E. anyway.I guess time will tell how that will all work out.I'm running Windows 7, RC1 and I'm also using Windows Mail. I just copied the files over from Vista. It works great!Time will answer all our questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 (edited) I'm just wondering, how MS is going to get their updates to you, without any way to connect to their internet web site. ???Manual updates no longer require the web so no need for a browser. Edited June 13, 2009 by -X- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 EU to pursue antitrust case, despite Windows 7 EThe European Commission notes with interest Microsoft's announcement of its plans for Windows 7, and in particular of the apparent separation of Internet Explorer (IE) from Windows in the EEA. The Commission will shortly decide in the pending browser tying antitrust case whether or not Microsoft’s conduct from 1996 to date has been abusive and, if so, what remedy would be necessary to create genuine consumer choice and address the anticompetitive effects of Microsoft’s long-standing conduct. In terms of potential remedies if the Commission were to find that Microsoft had committed an abuse, the Commission has suggested that consumers should be offered a choice of browser, not that Windows should be supplied without a browser at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluberti Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 Either the EU is in a world of hurt for money and wants to hit the Microsoft bank again for a freebie, or Operwaaaaaaaah is really paying someone off, because this is getting ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrofLuigi Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 Either the EU is in a world of hurt for money and wants to hit the Microsoft bank again for a freebie, or Operwaaaaaaaah is really paying someone off, because this is getting ridiculous.No, they're just jealous that Microsoft doesn't feed hungry Europeans GL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeFiend Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 so how are ppl suppose to dload FF without having IE? Precisely! IE is very useful for that EU start getting ridiculousThey'll only be happy when MS is forced to send you a blank CD with a $200 price tag, or that the CD has their competitor's software on it.Funny thing, all 3 of us (both quoted and myself) are Firefox users, yet think this "getting rid of IE" thing is getting ridiculous. The EU court is completely out of control.Either the EU is in a world of hurt for money and wants to hit the Microsoft bank again for a freebie, or Operwaaaaaaaah is really paying someone off, because this is getting ridiculous.For sure. As for Opera, the simple concept of making a product that people actually want is alien to them. Firefox, Safari, Chrome and several others are doing great, despite IE shipping as the default browser. There is a healthy market for 3rd party browsers. It just happens that nobody wants of their junk, even for free. Actually, I'd pay extra NOT to have Opera. I'll gladly take ANY browser over it (yes, including IE -- and Chrome and Safari and so on). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maleko Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 hang on...is this just an optional purchase? or are all EU versions of W7 going to have it "removed"?SO if I buy the bog standard Win 7 Ultimate..i WILL have IE as normal? But if i buy Win 7 E then it will be "removed"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluberti Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 It appears that all versions of Win7 shipped to the EU countries - whether they be OEM on a new machine or in retail channels - will have IE8 removed. Hopefully we'll get some further (official) clarification on this from Microsoft, but that's what the press releases and news stories have been stating. It appears IE8 in the EU will not be standard on any versions of Win7 E, regardless of how you get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripredacus Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 From what I've read, IE8 will be distributed via free CDs. I think I also read something about being able to download it via FTP. There will be no browser to download a browser with. You won't even have email to have someone send it to you since they moved that to Windows Live Essentials.That would be a step backwards. I seem to remember Windows 98 or 95 came with a separate IE install CD. I still have one somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_block Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 i personally dont even see the problem with IE, it has'nt gotten me into any trouble yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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