jaclaz Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Yep, right now the migrate.inf you produced with mkmigrateinf2.cmd is that of your Hard disk (normally C:\).I'll check the output files of MakeMigrateInf.exe, anyway.The only other (similar but not exactly the same) problem related with not working migrate.inf I can remember is on this thread:http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=21682Though I don't think you are in ANY of the situations that caused the problem, have a look at it, and see if you can spot any similarities with your setup/harware/whatever.jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipster Posted April 18, 2009 Author Share Posted April 18, 2009 ...migrate_inf.txt is the output of MkMigrateInf2.cmdDid you run it with options?No, without options. Now I used your command to run it. Here it is:migrate_inf.txtYep, right now the migrate.inf you produced with mkmigrateinf2.cmd is that of your Hard disk (normally C:\).I'll check the output files of MakeMigrateInf.exe, anyway.The only other (similar but not exactly the same) problem related with not working migrate.inf I can remember is on this thread:http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=21682Though I don't think you are in ANY of the situations that caused the problem, have a look at it, and see if you can spot any similarities with your setup/harware/whatever.jaclazHi Jaclaz and grazie. I read the thread you linked but it's too much complicated for me to understand... I'm sorry Anyway now I posted the migrate.inf produced by running the ilko_t's command.Hope can be useful, but I think it's just the same as the previous I posted.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Anyway now I posted the migrate.inf produced by running the ilko_t's command.Hope can be useful, but I think it's just the same as the previous I posted.. No, it's not the same.This last one is "right". I see no reasons why it shouldn't work, unless something else prevents it to be working.Are you using some "unattended" settings?Your "complete" output from MakeMigrateInf.exe lists a great number of removable devices, do you have one of those multi-card readers?Sometimes they can be a royal PITA.However, I am attaching a "right" one for your "H:\" device, try using this one.For the sake of experimenting, you should (momentarily) forget about "unattended" and ANY other "custom" setting you may have introduced, my guess is that you added/modify "something" which is simply escaping all of our current ideas/checks and that causes the migrate.inf not to be applied.jaclazgood_migrate_inf.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipster Posted April 20, 2009 Author Share Posted April 20, 2009 (edited) Are you using some "unattended" settings?Your "complete" output from MakeMigrateInf.exe lists a great number of removable devices, do you have one of those multi-card readers?However, I am attaching a "right" one for your "H:\" device, try using this one.For the sake of experimenting, you should (momentarily) forget about "unattended" and ANY other "custom" setting you may have introduced, my guess is that you added/modify "something" which is simply escaping all of our current ideas/checks and that causes the migrate.inf not to be applied.jaclazYes, for both the questions.I use unattended settings made with nLite and RunOnceEx. These are my nLite configs:ULTIMA_SESS.INIAnd Yes, I use a multi-card reader but only on the notebook on which I'm working to make the usb stick bootable.Anyway these are the settings for my 4gb usb key (Imation Nano).Ilko_t suggested me to try with a clean Windows with just BTS mass storage drivers slipstreamed. I tried that on another 2gb Verbatim drive but it didn't work too..Same problem with your migrate.inf Jaclaz. I'm sorry, what can I try now? Edited April 20, 2009 by pipster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Ilko_t suggested me to try with a clean Windows with just BTS mass storage drivers slipstreamed. I tried that on another 2gb Verbatim drive but it didn't work too..Same problem with your migrate.inf Jaclaz. I'm sorry, what can I try now?I am short of ideas. Clearly there must be a reason.It is simply escaping us.I mean, this feature worked for several thousands of people, thus it can be considered "fully tested".If you used a "clean" UNMODIFIED source WITHOUT unattended, it cannot be anything connected with mods like nlite (which however was never reported as causing problems or other similar "source modifying" apps/scripts). jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdob Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Does anyone have a fine MountedDevices explanation?How does windows build RemovableMedia string?Lets investigate:MountedDevices value contains at XP machine RemovableMedia:H: \??\STORAGE#RemovableMedia#8&141a0a73&0&RM#{53f5630d-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}I: \??\STORAGE#RemovableMedia#9&1d9465bd&0&RM#{53f5630d-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}J: \??\STORAGE#RemovableMedia#8&207c63a1&0&RM#{53f5630d-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}K: \??\STORAGE#RemovableMedia#9&25791fbe&0&RM#{53f5630d-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}L: \??\STORAGE#RemovableMedia#9&1fde2770&0&RM#{53f5630d-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}I'm used to RemovableMedia#7. There is a example http://www.forensicswiki.org/wiki/USB_History_ViewingRemovableMedia#8 and RemovableMedia#9 is strange. Does a notebook multi-card cause this?Another idea:USB serial number may cause this.Windows does use USB serial number. The USB hardware or a windows setting maybe involved.Read section 'USB serial number' http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html@pipsterDoes your hardware use a USB serial number?USBDeview http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/usb_devices_view.htmlUWe does offer a tool too.What about your setting HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\UsbFlags\GlobalDisableSerNumGen ?Did you made a windows full install?Which MountedDevices goes to USB stick at new installed windows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilko_t Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Thanks cdob, quite interesting, as usual.Reading http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html it appears that if no serials are present upon change of USB port stick will be detected as a new one. This would explain why getting another USB stick helped the other user with the same problem- the second one had USB serial number.Maybe OP had bad luck with the second stick he tried, not having serial number as the first one Will be waiting for pipster's results from USBDeview, hopefully this will reveal the mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I'm used to RemovableMedia#7. ....Does a notebook multi-card cause this?.....Good catch! I have a Desktop with a multicard reader and everything is #7 type. @pipsterYou may want to try running this thingie:http://sourceforge.net/projects/usbhistory/as follows:usbhistory.exe>C:\USB_rep.txtand post the USB_rep.txtjaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipster Posted April 23, 2009 Author Share Posted April 23, 2009 ...@pipsterDoes your hardware use a USB serial number?USBDeview http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/usb_devices_view.htmlUWe does offer a tool too.USBDeview_report.htmlWhat about your setting HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\UsbFlags\GlobalDisableSerNumGen ?Did you made a windows full install?Which MountedDevices goes to USB stick at new installed windows?Yes, I see serial number in USBDeview.GlobalDisableSerNumGen doesn't exist in my registry.Thanks cdob, quite interesting, as usual....Will be waiting for pipster's results from USBDeview, hopefully this will reveal the mystery.Here it is:USBDeview_report.html...@pipsterYou may want to try running this thingie:http://sourceforge.net/projects/usbhistory/as follows:usbhistory.exe>C:\USB_rep.txtand post the USB_rep.txtjaclazHere it is:USB_rep.txtThank you all guys for your great support. Hope we can find the trick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I guess we could have saved a lot of bandwith if pipster just listed the only USB device available in a 2.43 Km radius from the PC he NEVER connected to it. 23rd October 2008 must have been a busy day. I would try to disconnect all USB devices and delete all keys under:HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USBSTOR\Then try reconnecting one stick and see what happens.Maybe something made the 7& being available and start with 8& and 9&....jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdob Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 At first glance USB serial stick dosn't cause the behaviour.Maybe there is another windows setting?Does windows install files contain a ignore USB serial setting.Hence new installed windows ignore MountedDevices?migrate_XPproSp3.inf\??\STORAGE#RemovableMedia#8&141a0a73&0&RM#{53f5630d-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}migrate_Win2003.inf\??\STORAGE#RemovableMedia#8&157ad62&0&RM#{53f5630d-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}RemovableMedia#8 is very seldom used. Does this relate to hardware or windows?If you boot windows at another machine, does windows use RemovableMedia#7 or RemovableMedia#8 for the USB stick?@pipsterCan you install windows again?Which MountedDevices goes to USB stick at new installed windows?If new installed windows use RemovableMedia#7 then a adjusted migrate.inf should work.@jaclazUwe offers DriveCleanup to remove USB devices from registry.http://www.uwe-sieber.de/drivetools_e.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipster Posted April 23, 2009 Author Share Posted April 23, 2009 (edited) I guess we could have saved a lot of bandwith if pipster just listed the only USB device available in a 2.43 Km radius from the PC he NEVER connected to it. 23rd October 2008 must have been a busy day. I would try to disconnect all USB devices and delete all keys under:HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USBSTOR\Then try reconnecting one stick and see what happens.Maybe something made the 7& being available and start with 8& and 9&....jaclazEheheh! I have tested 3-4 mouses, and everyone coming here is plugging their usb stick.I have 3 sticks, 1 external hd (dead some days ago with his 320gb of data ), webcam, card reader, ... so many devices But is such a strange thing 95% of that have born on 23rd October 2008!! ...@pipsterCan you install windows again?Which MountedDevices goes to USB stick at new installed windows?If new installed windows use RemovableMedia#7 then a adjusted migrate.inf should work.@jaclazUwe offers DriveCleanup to remove USB devices from registry.http://www.uwe-sieber.de/drivetools_e.html No, please don't ask me to install windows again... I did it for about 10 times in a few days and I don't have my new pc fully working yet. I bought it 2 months ago... . Now I would just to use it.Anyway I have Windows installed from just 2-3 days on that new pc so it has just few usb devices already mounted.Here is the reports:NewPC_USBDeview_report.htmlNewPC_USB_rep.txtI'm sorry but I lost all of you in the technical details... Where do I can find the strings RemovableMedia#8, RemovableMedia#7, ....???And... what devices I have to sweep with DriveCleanup?Usage: DriveCleanup [-t] [-n] [-u] [-h] [-d] [-c] [-f] [-v] -t test mode -n no wait when finished -h only USB hubs -u only USB mass storage devices -d only Disk devices -c only CDROM devices -f only Floppy devices -v only Storage Volume devicesEDIT----------------------------------------------------------Ok cdob, maybe you are in the right way. I think this can be useful:On the notebook, where I prepare the stick:USB History Dump by nabiy (c)2008 (13) --- Imation Nano USB Device instanceID: 078B142D0BB2&0 ParentIdPrefix: 8&141a0a73&0 Driver:{4D36E967-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\0039 Disk Stamp: 04/21/2009 13:08 Volume Stamp: 04/21/2009 13:08 (14) --- Kingston DataTraveler 2.0 USB Device instanceID: 2008012500000000000002E4&0 ParentIdPrefix: 8&207c63a1&0 Last Mounted As: \DosDevices\J: Driver:{4D36E967-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\0027 Disk Stamp: 04/22/2009 20:47 Volume Stamp: 04/22/2009 20:47On the new PC, where I'm trying to use that stick:USB History Dump by nabiy (c)2008 (1) --- Imation Nano USB Device instanceID: 078B142D0BB2&0 ParentIdPrefix: 7&141a0a73&0 Last Mounted As: \DosDevices\H: Driver:{4D36E967-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\0002 Disk Stamp: 04/24/2009 00:08 Volume Stamp: 04/24/2009 00:08 (2) --- Kingston DataTraveler 2.0 USB Device instanceID: 2008012500000000000002E4&0 ParentIdPrefix: 7&207c63a1&0 Driver:{4D36E967-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\0001 Disk Stamp: 04/23/2009 03:12 Volume Stamp: 04/23/2009 03:12 Edited April 23, 2009 by pipster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipster Posted April 23, 2009 Author Share Posted April 23, 2009 And finally it works! WOW!I replaced the old migrate.inf: migrateOLD.infwith this one: migrate.infThe second one cames from the new PC, exported \DosDevice\H: from the key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\MountedDevicesI just copied the value of that key \DosDevice\H: into the migrate.inf.I want really to thanks all of you for your continuos support. I learned so many new things just reading your posts.Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilko_t Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 (edited) Quite interesting, thanks for all the reports.So RemovableMedia#8 made the difference. In old windows it's 8, in the new install it's 7.Reading this and cdob's link reveals the bolded part is ParentIdPrefix.\??\STORAGE#RemovableMedia#8&141a0a73&0&RM#{53f5630d-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}Cdob raised the question:I'm used to RemovableMedia#7.There is a example http://www.forensicswiki.org/wiki/USB_History_ViewingRemovableMedia#8 and RemovableMedia#9 is strange.Does a notebook multi-card cause this?Search at microsoft.com shows no clues for the changing number, a lot to be read from Google results.Another interesting quite from the links above:If the second character of the unique instance ID is a '&', then the ID was generated by the system, as the device did not have a serial number.So by detecting the latter we may know that migrate.inf drive lettering may not be applied and by putting in it multiple entries for RemovableMedia#7 , 8 (any others used for USB mass storage devices?) we might get around similar issues. @pipsterDoes the new PC have any card readers?As far as I remember you tried the USB stick on other computers, did any of them have USB card reader or any similar USB mass storage device- USB MP3 player, printer with card reader, phone connected via USB etc. etc. ?Do you have on the old computer an USB hub or PCI USB card? Where do you connect the USB stick to? Edited April 24, 2009 by ilko_t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Another interesting quite from the links above:If the second character of the unique instance ID is a '&', then the ID was generated by the system, as the device did not have a serial number.So by detecting the latter we may know that migrate.inf drive lettering may not be applied and by putting in it multiple entries for RemovableMedia#7 , 8 (any others used for USB mass storage devices?) we might get around similar issues. Yep, but the "ID" is not the "ParentIDPrefix".I would say that the issue at hand is not related to Serial (or lack of it) or maybe by something connected to it but not really "it".There are a number of entries in the USB_rep.txt that look suspicious, as they have no "ParentIDPrefix", some have "autogenerated-second-letter-&" ID's, some don't.@jaclazUwe offers DriveCleanup to remove USB devices from registry.http://www.uwe-sieber.de/drivetools_e.htmlThanks for the reminder. And finally it works! WOW!....I want really to thanks all of you for your continuos support. I learned so many new things just reading your posts.Thank you!We also learned something new, so I guess we are even. jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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