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The Solution for Seagate 7200.11 HDDs

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I just found a 1.6GHZ AMD Sempron, 1 GB Ram (memory); 120GB HDD;
Genuine WindowsXP Professional with SP3 on craigslist for $30, will this be possible enough to power the harddrive and unbrick it, or do I need a more powerful desktop?

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2 hours ago, CODEBLUE001 said:

I just found a 1.6GHZ AMD Sempron, 1 GB Ram (memory); 120GB HDD;
Genuine WindowsXP Professional with SP3 on craigslist for $30, will this be possible enough to power the harddrive and unbrick it, or do I need a more powerful desktop?

Should be more than fine :) , if it is a very old machine with a non-SATA PSU, at most you will need a IDE/Molex to SATA power connector converter, something *like*:
https://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/12-200-061-02.jpg

jaclaz
 

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3 hours ago, jaclaz said:

Should be more than fine :) , if it is a very old machine with a non-SATA PSU, at most you will need a IDE/Molex to SATA power connector converter, something *like*:
https://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/12-200-061-02.jpg

jaclaz
 

Thanks again... I got the PC but it doesn't have to sata PSU, I have already started shopping for molex to sata. I know I can get it online but I am hoping I can get it on Craigslist or in store somewhere so I can start right away. I will keep you updated on my success

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How disappointing, I can't get past the loop back test. I get a tx feedback but no rx response on the loopback tester :(

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16 hours ago, CODEBLUE001 said:

Thanks again... I got the PC but it doesn't have to sata PSU, I have already started shopping for molex to sata. I know I can get it online but I am hoping I can get it on Craigslist or in store somewhere so I can start right away. I will keep you updated on my success

If you are US based, Walmart has it:
 

https://www.walmart.com/ip/StarTech-SATAPOWADPL-4-Pin-Molex-to-Left-Angle-SATA-Power-Cable-Adapter-6-Universal/22952972

About the USB to TTL adapter, it is not entirely unheard of that the thingy is DOA (Dead On Arrival), these thingies are actually sold for a handful of bucks (more or less the same as the Walmart price for the mentioned - passive only -  power adapter, that proportionally is one of the most expensive things in the world, bar Apple products ;)) and then are (I don't know how much you paid for the one you got) often re-badged "the solution for 7200.11 troubles and re-sold for as much as several tens of doillars, still their "value" is 3 or 4 bucks.

jaclaz 
 

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5 hours ago, jaclaz said:

If you are US based, Walmart has it:
 

https://www.walmart.com/ip/StarTech-SATAPOWADPL-4-Pin-Molex-to-Left-Angle-SATA-Power-Cable-Adapter-6-Universal/22952972

About the USB to TTL adapter, it is not entirely unheard of that the thingy is DOA (Dead On Arrival), these thingies are actually sold for a handful of bucks (more or less the same as the Walmart price for the mentioned - passive only -  power adapter, that proportionally is one of the most expensive things in the world, bar Apple products ;)) and then are (I don't know how much you paid for the one you got) often re-badged "the solution for 7200.11 troubles and re-sold for as much as several tens of doillars, still their "value" is 3 or 4 bucks.

jaclaz 
 

I was able to get the Molex to SATA from a local PC repair store for $5. The USB to TTL was $18 on ebay. Now I am skeptical to buy another one. I was really excited about recovering my data; I mean, I had given up on my HD for 8 years :( But I couldn't even get past the first trial, which is the loopback test, is discouraging. I have decide to give it a rest for now and try again at a later date. Thanks Jaclaz for all your support. If I ever get it to work I will let you know.

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I gave it another go, but I keep getting stuck at the point when I enter N1. 3 times in a row when I get to that point and press enter I get a Init SMART Fail error and then it continues to show LED:000000CC FAddr:00250067 see below:

Rst 0x20M
(P) SATA Reset

ASCII Diag mode

F3 T>/2

F3 2>Z

Spin Down Complete
Elapsed Time 430.172 msecs
F3 2>U

 HighPowerMode
ExecuteSpinRequest

Spin Up Complete
Elapsed Time 10.280 secs
F3 2>1

Invalid Diag Cmd

F3 2>/1

F3 1>N1

Init SMART Fail
LED:000000CC FAddr:00250067
LED:000000CC FAddr:00250067
LED:000000CC FAddr:00250067
LED:000000CC FAddr:00250067
LED:000000CC FAddr:00250067
LED:000000CC FAddr:00250067
LED:000000CC FAddr:00250067
LED:000000CC FAddr:00250067
LED:000000CC FAddr:00250067
 

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I tried a slightly different method I saw on another site, still no luck. Please see below:

ASCII Diag mode

F3 T>/2

F3 2>Z

Spin Down Complete
Elapsed Time 431.953 msecs
F3 2>U

 HighPowerMode
ExecuteSpinRequest

Spin Up Complete
Elapsed Time 16.050 secs
F3 2>/

F3 T>m0,2,2,0,0,0,0,22
Max Wr Retries = 00, Max Rd Retries = 00, Max ECC T-Level = 00, Max Certify Rewr
ite Retries = 0000

Init SMART Fail
LED:000000CC FAddr:00250067
LED:000000CC FAddr:00250067

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Wait a minute.

Did you power off the drive and waited some 60 seconds at the right step in the procedure?

Just in case, FORGET about anything you have read anywhere else and ONLY try re-doing from start, following EXACTLY this guide, WITHOUT introducing any changes to it:
http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/133387-debricking-the-seagate-drives/
 

http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=38656

Which contacts where you insulating (heads or motor)?

jaclaz

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In the guide I was using, powering off the drive came after entering N1 and pressing enter. Since I could not get past N1, I never got to the point where I had to power off the drive.

In regards to contacts, I insulated the head. I was able to spin the drives it's just when I enter N1, I get Init SMART Fail
LED:000000CC FAddr:00250067

Thanks

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Yep :).

As said, try using the CarterinCanada's guide, EXACTLY (and BTW that one uses - if I recall correctly - the motor contacts).

More or less the rule of the thumb is "try using a set of contacts, and if it doesn't work, try again using the other set of contacts", then there are lots of reports of people failing at their first few attempts and later at the nth re-try succeed (but we have no idea about WHY the first tries were unsuccessful).

I am asking you to use the mentioned CarterinCanada's guide as it is the most detailed available, and has proved to work in most (really almost all) cases, so IF it doesn't work for you we may start to introduce variations :unsure:, but ONLY on the same (known to be usually working) base.

jaclaz
 

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I might have messed up something. I was following the CarterinCanada's guide.

1. When I insulated the head and connected the SATA cable, the drive spins then winds down; however I can't enter any commands in hyper terminal.:Ctrl Z does nothing

2. When I insulated the motor and connected the SATA cable, the drive does not spin; and I still can't enter any commands in hyper terminal :Ctrl Z does nothing

3. When I don't insulate the head or the motor, the drive spins and hyper terminal understands my commands, but I can't only get as far as the N1, just like before. 

I am not sure what I am doing wrong. I followed the guide verbatim.

Thanks

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(P) SATA Reset

ASCII Diag mode

F3 T>/2

F3 2>Z

Spin Down Complete
Elapsed Time 426.866 msecs
F3 2>U

 HighPowerMode
ExecuteSpinRequest

Spin Up Complete
Elapsed Time 10.412 secs
F3 2>/1

F3 1>N1

Init SMART Fail
LED:000000CC FAddr:00250067
LED:000000CC FAddr:00250067

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Wait a minute.

Which exact model (and which exact firmware version) is it?


 

With the drive fully assembled (i.e. with both the head and motor heads NOT insulated) you can access terminal?

Then you are not in a "locked terminal" situation as the BSY issue would cause.

If you prefer, insulating either the heads or motor contacts is only a trick to allow CTRL+Z to allow access to the terminal, and your drive is not suffering from the illness that supposedly the N1 command should workround to allow the user format fix (but from something else :(:ph34r:).

Conversely, in the half-@§§ed translation I can make via Google of Yura's page (in Polish Lithuanian) it seems that the LED:000000CC  FAddr:xxxxxxxxx error when issuing the N1 command means that the SMART is already cleared and that the format command should be issued right after power on:

http://yura.puslapiai.lt/files/seagate/720011_ES2.html

Maybe it is time that you post a complete report here:
http://malthus.mooo.com/index.php?

http://malthus.mooo.com/viewforum.php?f=2

asking for support/help.

jaclaz

 

Edited by jaclaz

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I traveled this morning and currently do not have the hard drive with me. off the top of my head the HD is Seagate barracuda 7200.11, 2T, ST32000540AS, 9WN.Firmware version CC83. I will confirm the FW version when I get back this Friday.  

Yes, I can access the terminal without insulating the head or motor. On the contrary I can't access the terminal when the head or motor is insulated.

I really appreciate your support and patience.

Thanks

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