starcraftmaster Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 if i upgrade my pcwill newer games work will it be worth itAND WILL IT ALL WORK GOODlist of hard ware i will be buyingnVidia 6200 256MB VGA/TV Low Pofile PCI Card: http://www.lmc.com.au/products/Graphics_Ca...A/TV_Low_PofileRAM:512 pc-133 sd ram: http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/produc...;products_id=74SOUND CARD Creative Sound Blaster 5.1 : http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/produc...oducts_id=26609and the current hard ware i gotMOTHER BOARDProperty ValueManufacturer GigabyteModel i810Version 1.3ASerial Number 00000000Chipset Vendor Intel CorporationChipset Model 82810E 810e Host-Hub Interface and Memory ControllerSouth Bridge 82801AA 8xx Chipset LPC Interface BridgeSMBus Intel Corporation 82801AA 8xx Chipset SMBus Controller @04C0hCPU Intel CeleronCpu Socket Socket 370 [socket 370 ]Processor Upgrade Max CPU Speed 800 MHzSystem Slots 3 PCIOnBoard devices Video (Enabled) Intel Corporation Sound (Enabled) YAMAHA Audio Sound (Enabled) AC97 Audio <unknown> (Enabled) AC97 Modem Memory Summary Maximum Memory Module Size 512 MBytesMaximum Capacity 1024 MBytesMemory Slots 2Name Physical Memory ArrayWarning! Accuracy of DMI data cannot be guaranteed=PCI SLOTSBus/Dev./Func. Type Class Type Manufacturer Device Name Sub System Device Vendor Sub System Device Name00 / 00 / 00 PCI PCI to HOST Bridge Intel Corporation 82810E 810e Host-Hub Interface and Memory Controller Intel Corporation 00 / 01 / 00 PCI VGA Controller Intel Corporation 82810E 810e Graphics Controller Giga-Byte Technology 00 / 30 / 00 PCI PCI to PCI Bridge Intel Corporation 82801AA 8xx Chipset Hub to PCI Bridge 00 / 31 / 00 PCI PCI to ISA Bridge Intel Corporation 82801AA 8xx Chipset LPC Interface Bridge 00 / 31 / 01 PCI Bus Master IDE controller Intel Corporation 82801AA 8xx Chipset IDE Controller Intel Corporation 82801AA 8xx Chipset IDE Controller00 / 31 / 02 PCI USB (UHCI) Intel Corporation 82801AA 8xx Chipset USB Controllers Intel Corporation 82801AA 8xx Chipset USB Controllers00 / 31 / 03 PCI SMBus Controller Intel Corporation 82801AA 8xx Chipset SMBus Controller Intel Corporation 82801AA 8xx Chipset SMBus Controller00 / 31 / 05 PCI Audio Device Intel Corporation 82801AA 8xx Chipset AC'97 Audio Controller Giga-Byte Technology SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio00 / 31 / 06 PCI Hayes Compatible Modem Intel Corporation 82801AA 8xx Chipset AC'97 PCI Modem Giga-Byte Technology 82801AA 8xx Chipset AC'97 PCI ModemRAMProperty ValueMemory Summary Maximum Memory Module Size 512 MBytesMaximum Capacity 1024 MBytesMemory Slots 2Name Physical Memory ArrayDevice Locator Slot 1Manufacturer Micron TechnologyPart Number 4LSDT864AG-133B1Serial Number 5212F03CCapacity 64 MBytesMemory Type SDRAMData Width 64 bitsVoltage LVTTL (not 5V tolerant)Error Correction NoneRefresh Normal (15.625 µs)Manufacturing Date 2001, Week 10EPP SPD Support NoDevice Locator Slot 2Manufacturer SpecTek IncorporatedSerial Number 2357C201Capacity 128 MBytesMemory Type SDRAMData Width 64 bitsVoltage LVTTL (not 5V tolerant)Error Correction NoneRefresh Normal (15.625 µs)Manufacturing Date 2002, Week 10EPP SPD Support NoWarning! Accuracy of DMI data cannot be guaranteed= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripredacus Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 More information is required. Which model motherboard do you have?No Gigabyte motherboards listed on their site with the Intel 801 chipset support a socket 370 and 1024MB RAM. http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Mother...Type=socket+370Any current gaming computers should require the following as minimum requirements:CPU: 2GHzRAM: 2GBVideo: 128MB DirectX 9 compatible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starcraftmaster Posted October 17, 2008 Author Share Posted October 17, 2008 ok thanksi think u may not find my mother board becasue packard bell left australia and for some reson giga byte took drivers and stuff away to i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexanrs Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 (edited) OH MY GOD! You're not serious, are you?Lets face it, although you can assemble a pretty decent computer for web-surfing, dowloading and for Office applications, running NEWER games is IMPOSSIBLE. You don't even have AGP support! Honestly, buy a new pc.... and well, that 5.1 soundcard is just useless, unless you wish to connect you system to a decent set of speakers.... it won't make your pc run any faster.You could probably assemble a not-so-bad pcfor gaming with the following specs:RAM: 2GB DDR2CPU: Athlon 64 3200+ (the higher the better) for single core (if you want to use Win98) or a Pentium Dual Core 2.4 Ghz (WinXP/Vista, Core2 is better, but this should do the trick quite nicely, and no, Pentium D isn't the same thing as Pentium Dual Core);GPU: A GeForce 8600 GT (XP/VISTA only) should work quite well... if you don't push to insane resolutions with high AA settings. If you put everything on low you can probably get a 6800/7600MOTHERBOARD: PCI-E by all means!!!! (unless you want Windows 98) The reason for getting a PCI-E capable MoBo, other than PCI-E being faster than AGP, is that the graphics card's prices differ... A PCI-E 6800 is cheaper than its AGP version.OS: Vista if you wish to use DX10 (AND got the GF8600), XP for DX9 gaming without problems, 98 if you like the challenge of getting the games to work Edited October 17, 2008 by puntoMX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puntoMX Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 will it be worth itNo, you will be spending 160AUD on something that was outdated and not worth upgrading 3 years ago.It´s time to look for a complete new computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeFiend Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 That box is most definitely past the "upgrading" point. Socket 370, plain old PCI (no PCI-E nor AGP), old very slow CPU, etc.And the "upgrade" parts you're talking about are nowhere near enough to run "newer games". A Geforce 6200 is very, very slow by today's standards. SB Live 5.1? I was going to list one on ebay a while ago (the platinum version), but I've seen plenty of them finish at $0.99 with no bids at all (tells you how much they're worth). Modern motherboards have FAR better sound onboard than those old cards provide.At this point, you're basically looking at another PC. It doesn't have to be expensive though. I've seen significantly faster 2nd hand computers go for like $50 before (sometimes even free). Lots of people are getting rid of old computers (or parts even). I've sold an old P4 3GHz for cheap a couple months ago (around $100 -- including SATA DVD writer, memory card reader and all), and given away a few 2.x GHz ones, so 800MHz (0.8GHz)... Anything you can buy in a store, at any price, will be MUCH faster than this. This is very much like the PC I had like 8 years ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbolt 2864 Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 (edited) As most of those guys mentioned, those specs you listed there is very old and outdated.However, you I suggest these low end parts that ain't too bad:AMD Athlon 5000+ X2 AM2 - $74GeForce 8400 GS - $442GB DDR2 RAM - $38And you can get a cheap low end AM2 motherboard for like $69 or maybe less.These parts will do so much better than the ones you listed. Edited October 18, 2008 by Thunderbolt 2864 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravisO Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 (edited) Your computer is too old to upgrade, you need a full replacement in order to play anything recent. A motherboard that supports a 800mhz probably maxes out at 1gh or maybe 1.2ghz, today's CPUs are dual cores running at 3ghz (so that's a virtual 6ghz CPU), so as you can see, you're old hardware can't compare.Plus new SATA hard drives are way faster than your ancient IDE drive, ram is way faster, video cards are around 8x faster.I recommend getting a:cpu: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 (3ghz dual core)http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115037video: Nvidia 9800GT (new 55nm GPU, cooler, less watts & faster than other Nvidia cards)http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814127379mobo: GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3L (simply amazing mobo)http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813128337psu: Sparkle 350w (a good cheapie)http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817103516ram: 2GB of ram (enough for any of today's games)http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820145034HD: 500GB Western Digital (lots of storage, cheap)http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822136073Throw it all in a case and you'll have a cutting edge PC that can play ANY game Edited October 18, 2008 by TravisO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexanrs Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 ¬¬ if he's trying to upgrade that dinossaur, I don't think he will be willing to cash THIS MUCH money for hardware...btw, getting a 350W PSU isn't a very good thing with that hardware... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlotteTheHarlot Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 (edited) if i upgrade my pc [snip] will it be worth it[snip]RAM:512 pc-133 sd ram: http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/produc...;products_id=74MOTHER BOARDModel i810Whoa! i810, stop right there. I had one, worked on many, even on their best day these were horrible. Retire it or keep it functional only for testing dangerous apps and viruses!More importantly, purchasing 512 MB of SDRAM will absolutely kill you. Even at the cheapest places it will kill you. Do not buy this memory! 512 MB of SDRAM will cost more than 2 GB of DDR2.Buy a current motherboard, if it must run Win9x you know where to research it: Compatible Hardware with Windows 9x. If it does not require Win9x you can buy almost anything but make sure it is DDR2 so that RAM is cheap (or if DDR3, RAM will be cheap in the near future).Skip this upgrade, that money will be much better spent and go a much longer way on new tech.P.S. doesn't NewEgg ship to you?EDIT: as of this date, DDR2 is cheap! Doh! DDR3 will be cheap soon. (but not soon enough for me).One other thing I remember about those i810 (Intel Application Accelerator) boards. Beware of the BIOS. I cannot remember any 48bit LBA updates. There may have been some by some mobo maker, but without it the HDD situation is very dangerous. Even some of the sub-136GB drives might not be recognized. Edited October 20, 2008 by CharlotteTheHarlot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbolt 2864 Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 if i upgrade my pc [snip] will it be worth it[snip]RAM:512 pc-133 sd ram: http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/produc...;products_id=74MOTHER BOARDModel i810Whoa! i810, stop right there. I had one, worked on many, even on their best day these were horrible. Retire it or keep it functional only for testing dangerous apps and viruses!More importantly, purchasing 512 MB of SDRAM will absolutely kill you. Even at the cheapest places it will kill you. Do not buy this memory! 512 MB of SDRAM will cost more than 2 GB of DDR3.Buy a current motherboard, if it must run Win9x you know where to research it: Compatible Hardware with Windows 9x. If it does not require Win9x you can buy almost anything (but make sure it is DDR3 so that RAM is cheap).Skip this upgrade, that money will be much better spent and go a much longer way on new tech.P.S. doesn't NewEgg ship to you?Don't you mean DDR2? DDR3 is still expensive. However, DDR2 is pretty much dirt cheap these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puntoMX Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 P.S. doesn't NewEgg ship to you?Only to most states in North America less Mexico... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlotteTheHarlot Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Don't you mean DDR2? DDR3 is still expensive. However, DDR2 is pretty much dirt cheap these days.ROTFL ! Thank you. Wishful thinking! Getting my first two sticks of DDR3 next week. ROTFL ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sysdll Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 (edited) I’ve upgraded/refurbished about a dozen turn of the century computers in the last several years. It’s a hobby and I give most of them away.So my opinion is:“Will newer games work?” No. “Will it be worth it?” Not at those prices.“Will it all work good?” MaybeI don’t know why but about half of the old motherboards I’ve worked on would work after being upgraded. I’ve seen identical motherboards where one would accept a faster processor and video card and one wouldn’t. I get parts for little or nothing so it’s not a big deal if it doesn’t work. But spending the money you plan on would be too risky to me.If you decide to do it. Upgrade to the latest bios and hunt around on the web to see if someone has modded bios for your motherboard to bring it more up to date than the original manufacturers. There are Promise ATA 133 cards for larger and faster hard drives and Tualatin adapters that can use a 1.4ghz processor. But even with all that it won’t come close to what a newer computer can do. Good luck. It will be a learning experience, I can promise you that much. Edited October 25, 2008 by Sysdll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weEvil Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 (edited) That's the kind of computer I threw out.What's the matter with you?Your computer is too old to upgrade, you need a full replacement in order to play anything recent. A motherboard that supports a 800mhz probably maxes out at 1gh or maybe 1.2ghz, today's CPUs are dual cores running at 3ghz (so that's a virtual 6ghz CPU), so as you can see, you're old hardware can't compare.Plus new SATA hard drives are way faster than your ancient IDE drive, ram is way faster, video cards are around 8x faster.I recommend getting a:cpu: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 (3ghz dual core)http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115037video: Nvidia 9800GT (new 55nm GPU, cooler, less watts & faster than other Nvidia cards)http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814127379mobo: GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3L (simply amazing mobo)http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813128337psu: Sparkle 350w (a good cheapie)http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817103516ram: 2GB of ram (enough for any of today's games)http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820145034HD: 500GB Western Digital (lots of storage, cheap)http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822136073Throw it all in a case and you'll have a cutting edge PC that can play ANY gameReplace the 9800GT with the HD4830 or the HD4850.P35 is good. P45 is better. Gigabyte P45 is amazing.Western Digital SE16 640GB. Overall fastest 7200RPM drive so far. Lots of storage. Cheap.The 350W PSU is a joke. Haha?400-500W for future upgradeability. Its also not good to work a PSU near its limits. Reduces life, and less efficient.You can get the quiet Antec Sonata III case with a 550W 80plus (that means its efficient) PSU. Edited October 27, 2008 by puntoMX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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