x64 - Server 2008 or Vista Ultimate

**weEvil** · August 16, 2008

I'm looking at Vista Ultimate & Sever 2008 x64 versions. Which one performs better once vLited?

I read that Server 2008 does not have all the DRM junk, so thats why it performs way better out of the box. Does vLite remove enough of that to reduce the performance gap?

Which one comes out lighter on the system?

**meowing** · August 16, 2008

Best use a Vista Business x64 copy for vlite. Who needs the Ultimate extras? I sure as heck never will.

I successfully slipstreamed SP1 in an old Vista Business x64 image.

After that I slipped in the hotfixes, added some AHCI and Intel drivers and kicked out a lot of crap. If you want, I can post my Lastsession file for you.

I tried to get Windows Media 11 in there without DRM, but that didn't work. You have to either not install Windows Media at all during install, or choose to use a different WM release, if you want to NOT install the DRM crap. For me the WMedia plugin for Firefox is enough of the WM nonsense. I open all my movies with either KM-Player or Mediaplayer Classic anyway, except for some streams in my browser.

By the way, for Moz Firefox I can highly recommend:

http://adblockplus.org/en/installation and https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4420

**weEvil** · August 16, 2008

Unfortunatelly I don't have Vista Business edition. Vista Ultimate will have to do.

What about Server 2008 x64? Does it work with vLite?

**banshee28** · August 16, 2008

Unfortunatelly I don't have Vista Business edition. Vista Ultimate will have to do.
What about Server 2008 x64? Does it work with vLite?

I have recently vlite win2k8 x64 and yes it works. However with removing a few components the Add Features feature does not work that well, if at all for some components. Still trying to figure it out....

**circuitraver74** · August 17, 2008

Unfortunatelly I don't have Vista Business edition. Vista Ultimate will have to do.
What about Server 2008 x64? Does it work with vLite?
I have recently vlite win2k8 x64 and yes it works. However with removing a few components the Add Features feature does not work that well, if at all for some components. Still trying to figure it out....

This is from Geo411M, Works really well on ServerEnterprise

vLite preset file

;

;#Environment:

; vLite v1.1.6

; Framework 2.0.50727.1434

; Microsoft Windows NT 6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 32-bit

;

;#Target:

; Windows Longhorn SERVERENTERPRISE 32-bit Service Pack 1

; Version 6.0.6001.18000 English (United States)

;

[Compatibility]

DriveimageXML

DVD Treasury

Halo 2

Hauppauge WinTV

KMPlayer

Aero Glass

File and printer sharing (Server)

Internet Explorer

Internet Information Services (IIS)

Recommended

Windows Fax and Scan

[CustomHide]

[Components]

;# Accessories #

Accessibility

Speech Support

;# Drivers #

Display adapters-Ati

Display adapters-Intel

Display adapters-nVidia

Display adapters-S3

Display adapters-SiS

Diva Server

Modems

Printers-Apollo

Printers-Brother

Printers-Canon

Printers-Citizen

Printers-Dell

Printers-Diconix

Printers-Epson

Printers-Fuji Xerox

Printers-Fujitsu

Printers-Generic printer

Printers-Gestetner

Printers-HP

Printers-IBM

Printers-Infotec

Printers-Konica

Printers-Konica Minolta

Printers-Kyocera Mita

Printers-Lanier

Printers-Lexmark

Printers-Minolta

Printers-Minolta-QMS

Printers-NEC

Printers-NRG

Printers-Oce

Printers-Oki

Printers-Okidata

Printers-Olivetti

Printers-Panasonic

Printers-QMS

Printers-Ricoh

Printers-Samsung

Printers-Savin

Printers-Seikosha

Printers-Sharp

Printers-Sony

Printers-Star

Printers-Tally

Printers-Tektronix

Printers-Wipro ePeripherals

Printers-Xerox

QLogic Fibre Channel Adapter

Scanners

TV Tuners-ADS Technologies

TV Tuners-ASUSTeK Computer Inc.

TV Tuners-AVerMedia Technologies, Inc.

TV Tuners-Compro Technology Inc.

TV Tuners-Conexant Systems, Inc.

TV Tuners-Creatix

TV Tuners-Hauppauge

TV Tuners-KNC ONE GmbH

TV Tuners-KWorld

TV Tuners-Lumanate, Inc.

TV Tuners-Philips Semiconductors

TV Tuners-Pinnacle Systems

TV Tuners-TerraTec Electronic GmbH

TV Tuners-VidzMedia Pte Ltd.

TV Tuners-ViXS Systems Inc.

;# Languages #

Arabic

Brazillian

Bulgarian

Croatian

Czech

Danish

Dutch

Estonian

Finnish

French

German

Greek

Hebrew

Hungarian

Italian

Japanese

Korean

Latvian

Lithuanian

Norwegian

Polish

Portuguese

Romanian

Russian

Serbian

Simplified Chinese

Slovak

Slovenian

Spanish

Swedish

Table Driven Text Input Processor

Thai

Traditional Chinese

Turkish

Ukrainian

;# Multimedia #

Music and Video samples

Sample Pictures

Shell event sounds

;# System #

Manual Install (Setup.exe)

Natural Language

Windows Easy Transfer

[Options]

DEP (Data Execution Prevention) = Default

User Account Control (UAC) = Enabled

AntiSpyware Realtime Protection = Default

AutoPlay = Enabled

Paging Executive = Enabled

Power scheme = Balanced

Power button = Shutdown

Sleep button = Do nothing

Hibernation = Default

Memory requirement = 256MB

Control Panel - Classic View = Default

Show hidden files and folders = No

Show protected operating system files = No

Show extensions for known file types = No

IE Phishing Filter = Default

IE Phishing Verification Ballon Tips = Default

[Protection]

[Drivers]

[unattended]

[Hotfixes]

[LanguagePacks]

Just follow along in vLite

**banshee28** · August 17, 2008

This is from Geo411M, Works really well on ServerEnterprise
vLite preset file
;
;#Environment:
; vLite v1.1.6
; Framework 2.0.50727.1434
; Microsoft Windows NT 6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 32-bit
;
;#Target:
; Windows Longhorn SERVERENTERPRISE 32-bit Service Pack 1
; Version 6.0.6001.18000 English (United States)
;
[Compatibility]
DriveimageXML
DVD Treasury
Halo 2
Hauppauge WinTV
KMPlayer
Aero Glass
File and printer sharing (Server)
Internet Explorer
Internet Information Services (IIS)
Recommended
Windows Fax and Scan
[CustomHide]
[Components]
;# Accessories #
Accessibility
Speech Support
;# Drivers #
Display adapters-Ati
Display adapters-Intel
Display adapters-nVidia
Display adapters-S3
Display adapters-SiS
Diva Server
Modems
Printers-Apollo
Printers-Brother
Printers-Canon
Printers-Citizen
Printers-Dell
Printers-Diconix
Printers-Epson
Printers-Fuji Xerox
Printers-Fujitsu
Printers-Generic printer
Printers-Gestetner
Printers-HP
Printers-IBM
Printers-Infotec
Printers-Konica
Printers-Konica Minolta
Printers-Kyocera Mita
Printers-Lanier
Printers-Lexmark
Printers-Minolta
Printers-Minolta-QMS
Printers-NEC
Printers-NRG
Printers-Oce
Printers-Oki
Printers-Okidata
Printers-Olivetti
Printers-Panasonic
Printers-QMS
Printers-Ricoh
Printers-Samsung
Printers-Savin
Printers-Seikosha
Printers-Sharp
Printers-Sony
Printers-Star
Printers-Tally
Printers-Tektronix
Printers-Wipro ePeripherals
Printers-Xerox
QLogic Fibre Channel Adapter
Scanners
TV Tuners-ADS Technologies
TV Tuners-ASUSTeK Computer Inc.
TV Tuners-AVerMedia Technologies, Inc.
TV Tuners-Compro Technology Inc.
TV Tuners-Conexant Systems, Inc.
TV Tuners-Creatix
TV Tuners-Hauppauge
TV Tuners-KNC ONE GmbH
TV Tuners-KWorld
TV Tuners-Lumanate, Inc.
TV Tuners-Philips Semiconductors
TV Tuners-Pinnacle Systems
TV Tuners-TerraTec Electronic GmbH
TV Tuners-VidzMedia Pte Ltd.
TV Tuners-ViXS Systems Inc.
;# Languages #
Arabic
Brazillian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Czech
Danish
Dutch
Estonian
Finnish
French
German
Greek
Hebrew
Hungarian
Italian
Japanese
Korean
Latvian
Lithuanian
Norwegian
Polish
Portuguese
Romanian
Russian
Serbian
Simplified Chinese
Slovak
Slovenian
Spanish
Swedish
Table Driven Text Input Processor
Thai
Traditional Chinese
Turkish
Ukrainian
;# Multimedia #
Music and Video samples
Sample Pictures
Shell event sounds
;# System #
Manual Install (Setup.exe)
Natural Language
Windows Easy Transfer
[Options]
DEP (Data Execution Prevention) = Default
User Account Control (UAC) = Enabled
AntiSpyware Realtime Protection = Default
AutoPlay = Enabled
Paging Executive = Enabled
Power scheme = Balanced
Power button = Shutdown
Sleep button = Do nothing
Hibernation = Default
Memory requirement = 256MB
Control Panel - Classic View = Default
Show hidden files and folders = No
Show protected operating system files = No
Show extensions for known file types = No
IE Phishing Filter = Default
IE Phishing Verification Ballon Tips = Default
[Protection]
[Drivers]
[unattended]
[Hotfixes]
[LanguagePacks]
Just follow along in vLite

It looks like he only removes a few "components". I guess the add features still works with this config?

Edited August 17, 2008 by banshee28

**oskingen** · August 17, 2008

This is a good config

[Components]
;# Accessories #
Accessibility
Speech Support
System Information
;# Drivers #
All of them
;# Hardware Support #
Internet Small Computer System Interface (iSCSI)
Smartcards
XBOX 360 Controller
;# Languages #
All of them
;# Multimedia #
Music and Video samples
Sample Pictures
Screensavers
Shell event sounds
Wallpapers
Intel Indeo
;# Network #
Internet Information Services (IIS)
Windows Mail
Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP)
Simple TCPIP services
Telnet Server
TFTP Client
;# Services #
Error Reporting
IP Helper
IPsec Policy Agent
Windows Time
;# System #
Manual Install (Setup.exe)
Microsoft Agent
Natural Language
Tablet PC
Windows Defender
Windows Easy Transfer
Guided Help
Help [break the add feather]
Manual Install (Setup.exe)
Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications (SUA)

To answer your question, in my own experience Server 2008 and Vista SP1 have same performance. If you think that with Server you will get better performance think again.

I give you also a chart.

http://cid-5f1d3f5fca38bf7d.skydrive.live....erfRessmall.gif

Edited August 17, 2008 by hannubys

**Bilar Crais** · August 17, 2008

To answer your question, in my own experience Server 2008 and Vista SP1 have same performance. If you think that with Server you will get better performance think again.
I give you also a chart.
http://cid-5f1d3f5fca38bf7d.skydrive.live....erfRessmall.gif

Great information in that chart! I've never run XP64 myself. My current OS is w2k8ent x64, and my gut feeling is that it has a slight performance edge over Vista x64.

It would have been interesting to see Server 2003 among the contestants.

**suryad** · August 19, 2008

That is a very interesting chart. Wonder where you got it from. Obviously someone spent a lot of time running all those tests and on all those different OS platforms as well!

**weEvil** · August 20, 2008

So I got a copy of Business. Thank you MSDN.

Its easier to get Aero through vLite than in Server. Too many dependencies for too little gain.

Edited August 20, 2008 by brucevangeorge

**nuhi** · August 24, 2008

Vista SP1, any edition.

**aviv00** · August 24, 2008

Which one comes out lighter on the system?

u mean faster or less space ?

faster i think server is faster

space its the same i think if u know to build it properly

Edited August 24, 2008 by aviv00

**sorbon1** · August 24, 2008

Best use a Vista Business x64 copy for vlite. Who needs the Ultimate extras? I sure as heck never will.
http://adblockplus.org/en/installation and https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4420

I can't remember if it's neccesary to work or just to be legal, but you're supposed to use Ultimate with quad-core processors.

Also you don't have Media Center, Movie Maker, all that crap. For me, I would take Home Premium or Ultimate over Business anyday.

**oskingen** · August 27, 2008

This is a good config

[Components]
;# Accessories #
Accessibility
Speech Support
System Information
;# Drivers #
All of them
;# Hardware Support #
Internet Small Computer System Interface (iSCSI)
Smartcards
XBOX 360 Controller
;# Languages #
All of them
;# Multimedia #
Music and Video samples
Sample Pictures
Screensavers
Shell event sounds
Wallpapers
Intel Indeo
;# Network #
Internet Information Services (IIS)
Windows Mail
Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP)
Simple TCPIP services
Telnet Server
TFTP Client
;# Services #
Error Reporting
IP Helper
IPsec Policy Agent
Windows Time
;# System #
Manual Install (Setup.exe)
Microsoft Agent
Natural Language
Tablet PC
Windows Defender
Windows Easy Transfer
Guided Help
Help [break the add feather]
Manual Install (Setup.exe)
Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications (SUA)

To answer your question, in my own experience Server 2008 and Vista SP1 have same performance. If you think that with Server you will get better performance think again.

I give you also a chart.

http://cid-5f1d3f5fca38bf7d.skydrive.live....erfRessmall.gif

I have just add the following component to remove and Server is working fine, also for add feature

zip folder

run a legacy cpl

mdac

jet database

disk quota

intel indeo

floppy disk

modem support

**weEvil** · August 29, 2008

I can't remember if it's neccesary to work or just to be legal, but you're supposed to use Ultimate with quad-core processors.
Also you don't have Media Center, Movie Maker, all that crap. For me, I would take Home Premium or Ultimate over Business anyday.

The Vista Ultimate EULA is for dual cpu systems and up. A quad is fine since its single socket.

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