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Can I transfer all my settings to a newer machine

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Let's address what you need DOS for.

Thank you everyone for your helpful comments.

I think I have now finally made up my mind to avoid XP and to put my efforts into preserving my 98SE (as updated with mdgX and Gape, inclidntaly).

I realise from readinfg some of the comments here that I shall need to copy the drivers for monitor and sound. Here are my present specs.

* SYSINFO *

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Machine name: Harry

Operating System: Windows 98 (4.10, Build 2222) A

Language: English (Regional Setting: English)

Processor: AMD Athlon XP 2100+, MMX, 1733 Mhz MAX: 3000 Mhz

Memory: 256MB RAM

DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)

Product Key <REMOVED>

Product ID 23303-OEM-0077491-77935

Outlook Express ID - 05B8F2C0-3D5D-11D9-ABAC-F194E5792A38

Belarc - Advisor e2b3dd38

Microsoft - Internet Explorer 55736-412-3620917-04594 (Key: <REMOVED>)

Microsoft - MediaPlayer 53199-255-1424532-04456

Microsoft - MediaPlayer 69808-517-1424854-04616

Microsoft - Windows98SE 07807-OEM-0077491-77935 (Key: <REMOVED>)

Roxio - Easy CD & DVD Creator 6 <REMOVED>

Sobstel - SetMeUp <REMOVED>

[sYSTEM]

AMD Athlon XP 2100+

Bus Clock: 133 MHz

Memory Type 256+00+00+00;|DIMMSDRAM;T5

VIA Tech VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller

MOTHERBOARD: K7VT2 2.00

Bus Clock: 133 MHz

[DISPLAY ADAPTER AND MONITOR]

NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X/AGP/SSE/3DNOW! v.1.4.0

AOC Spectrum 7V 1280 x 1024 32 x 24 cm 47143 November 2001

[bIOS]

BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. P1.30 03/07/2003 (AMIBIOS 070010)

BIOS ID: 62-P130-001368-00101111-040201-VIA_K7-K7VT2130

MOTHERBOARD: K7VT2 2.00

Chipset: VIA 82C3099 rev 0

BIOS Date: 03/07/03

[PRINTER]

USB Device Name: EPSON USB Printer Stylus C44 Series (EPUSB1:)

[DISCS]

Maxtor 2F020L0 (20.85 GB) [Hard drive] D:

SAMSUNG SV1021H [Hard drive] C:

Generic floppy disk drive (3.5")

CD-Rom-Drive = <E:> LG CD-RW CED-8080B

CD-Rom-Drive = <F:> ATAPI CDROM 52X

[OTHER DEVICES]

VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller

VIA PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller

VIA Tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller

VIA Tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller

VIA Tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller

Gameport Joystick (no joystick connected)

LiveSynth Personal Edition

VIA AC'97 Enhanced Audio Controller (WDM)

Wave Device for Voice Modem

Intel HaM Data Fax Voice

Alcatel SpeedTouch USB ADSL PPP

VIA VT6102 Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter

USB 2.0 Root Hub

USB Root Hub

USB Root Hub

USB Root Hub

As for DOS, I have found this necessary to run Scandisk and Clean9x

Edited by Tarun
Removed a LOT of product keys

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If you're going up to Windows XP you'd be best getting a fresh start. You can however put the hard drive from Windows 98 in as a slave.

From the two items you listed (scandisk and Clean9x) you won't need real DOS for those. Windows XP has chkdsk and you can use CCleaner and other useful tools.

I completely agree with others about giving XP a try at least. You can quite easily achieve uptimes of weeks to months from the stable kernel. And when I say stable, I mean you'll most likely never see a blue screen again. Plus you get better memory management.

When I used Windows 9x/Me I had to reboot at least once a day due to reduced resources from usage. You never have to do that again with Windows XP. When I was using Windows Me I thought it was the best. Yet, when I got my a new computer with Windows XP Pro on it, I haven't looked back once. You can very easily enjoy Windows XP with 512MB of RAM and go as high as 4GB of RAM (for 32 bit). It's a very enjoyable OS. I cannot stress enough how great it is, from memory management, to the stability, immense number of programs (and freeware), everything just works so well. You won't have to stress with drivers and other things from the Windows 9x/Me era either. Everything just works. If it needs drivers, they're very easy to get and install too! :)

Your son sounds like he's trying to help you by setting everything up. As mentioned, use the classic theme if you want it to have the Windows 9x feel. I bet there are even icon packs to have the Windows 9x/Me feel.

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Wow. It's funny seeing someone that's just "decided" to stick with 98, after being pressured into XP by what may be considered the entire sane known universe. I just got through with my most recent 98 expedition, trying to get it to function fully on an old 400MHz Celeron (board, no case, booting from CompactFlash) as a musicbox/print server.

Neither of which functions 98 was able to perform.

Foobar2000, the software I was going to use as the CD/media player, had 9x/ME/2K support removed in v0.9, so it would not install at all. The installer crashes with an invalid page fault "in" itself (usually kernel32.dll, shell32.dll, but this was the installer EXE name, weird). So I had to use 0.8, which sucked. It worked. So I pressed on with the printer driver.

My Epson Stylus Photo R280 is used for printing CDs, and for a lack of space (and because it looks hot in the living room), I put it in my living room with the boombox PC. So I use that PC as a print server since it requires very little power. First step: install print driver. Euh, problem... Epson doesn't provide a 98 driver for my printer. Hmm...

And that's after dealing with a whole day of fighting with drivers for the onboard devices, dealing with 98's quirks, nasty and system-destroying third-party addons (982ME, fail!!! UGH!), a flurry of annoying updates and "you can't get this anymore" roadblocks, etc...

Face it. 98 is DEAD (and for good reason, 98 sucks. Go with ME if you want the most up to date of the buggy-as-heck 9x based OSes...). So unless you're stuck in the stone age and don't want to do anything modern with your computer, you should just put XP on your computer with nLite. Full XP is freaking bloated. But nLitened XP is much cleaner and happier, even more so than 98. Give up the 98. Seriously.

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I have both Windows 98 and xp on a quad core pc (together with LINUX UBUNTU+ KDE and Linux MEPIS).

The motherboard is on sale in every country and is the Asrock 4CoreDual-SATAII with 2 GB of RAM

Windows 98 is able to use only one core of the quad core CPU. Xp and LInux make full use of the Ram and the CPU.

I use the PC mainly for desktop activities and for Internet use

and

I find much more fast and safe to use Windows98 for my activities. I hate to waste cumulative hours waiting for the pc doing stuff that I would not approve ( if ever informed about what the hell is happening).

I was able to do amost everything you would ever like to do on a PC with Win98.

And I believe it takes considerably more effort to safely surf the net with XP (if it is at all possible) than just learning how to install win98 on a new motherboard.

Just my opinion!

By the way if someone wants to dual boot WIN98 and XP on a SATA enabled motherboard I suggest to buy a small ATA disk for WIN98 and use the SATA disk for xp and for a FAT32 data partition that can be used to exchange data between the systems.

Sata disk with proper drivers do not have any space limitation under win98.

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I would suggest in any case to avoid using the same Hard disk for both WIn98 and XP!!!

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so if you have an enough big ATA disk make the first partition as FAT32 for WIN98 and use the rest of the disk to experiment LINUX.

You are going to need LINUX to fix your PC sooner or later!

A good live LINUX distribution can be also useful. Especially to make partitions at first install and to repair any boot up problem.

HAve fun !

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Well, if you're so happy with 98, then would you care to donate your quad core CPU to someone who can actually put it to some worthwhile use? I'd gladly trade you a single core CPU for it... since that's all you know how to use anyway ;)

What a horrendous waste. By the way, Linux is not an acronym. It should not be capitalized.

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Well, if you're so happy with 98, then would you care to donate your quad core CPU to someone who can actually put it to some worthwhile use? I'd gladly trade you a single core CPU for it... since that's all you know how to use anyway newwink.gif

What a horrendous waste. By the way, Linux is not an acronym. It should not be capitalized."

Well I appreciate you reading in such details my post. And thanks for telling me that LINUX should be written "Linux" even if your accurate reading effort was not enough to read between the lines and understand that I do actually use the Quad core CPU in Linux.

My point is that Windows 98 on a single core shows to be still faster than using the full quad core CPU with Windows XP clean and without spyware (did I spell it right?) .

The O.S. seems to count more than the CPU in the overall performance of applications what do you think ?

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A dual or quad core system is only as useful as the applications that run on it, nothing to do with the OS other than the ability to actually use multiple CPUs. If you run an encoder (one of the few applications that can benefit from a multi core system) on a multi core system, you can sometimes notice precisely a 2x increase in processing speed. If the encoder itself isn't even optimized for multi-core systems, then the least you can benefit from is that you'll be able to do two (or more) things at once, like browse the web while encoding, or do a second (third, fourth) encoding at the same time.

Windows 9x can't even manage a single core properly. It frequently locks up the whole system when a single application gets stuck in a processing or wait loop, requiring a complete reboot. The only time XP needs a reboot is when a hardware device or driver starts misbehaving. How can you call that "Better"?

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Thanks for information.

I checked with a benchmark program Windows XP and Windows 98 and you are right!

Office shows exactly a factor of two in XP over Windows 98.

May be the "perceived" speed I have of WIndows 98 is biased due to my preference.

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Edited by cluberti
Post moved, no need to scream or cry.

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Let's remove the antagonism in some of the posting in this thread, or I'll close it. You know who you are.

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Let's remove the antagonism in some of the posting in this thread, or I'll close it. You know who you are.
» Posting Guidelines

7.a You are expected to be mature when discussing in threads. Racism, pornography, threatening, profanity, or excessive vulgarity is not tolerated. You will be promptly banned. No Exceptions.

7.b This community is built upon mutual respect. You are not allowed to flame other members. People who do not respect personal opinions and/or personal work will be warned in first instance. If you ignore the warning and keep on flaming, you will be banned without notice.

This reaction to my asking for my thread to be returned back to the original forum (the Win98SE forum) is touchy and over the top. I've been on MSFN for many years and to my knowledge I've never ever "flamed" anyone. May I say that the function of moderators is to help members not to slag them off.

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Oh well, lets ignore the Moderators advice and for no reason whatsoever decide to abuse them!

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